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#126
dkjestrup

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Arcane Warriors are all about sustainables. So of course.

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bstanley52

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dkjestrup wrote...

2) Archery Rogue

... The Archery Rogue has two great skills, Shattering Shot, which stuns the target and all nearby enemies. ...

Talents

Basically, either go for Shattering Shot, or Arrow of Slaying, straight off the bat. ... Basically, I'd go for Arrow of Slaying early, if you're playing in a party, or Shattering Shot for a solo game. 

 


You mean Scattershot instead of Shattering Shot in the Archery Rogue build.

You got this correct in the Warrior Archer build. Just trying to help :D

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dkjestrup

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>.>

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Carmen_Willow

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If you don't want to be an arcane warrior and put on metal, what are your top 5 favorite robes and hoods and where do you find them? Just started really getting into the mages and have a lot to learn here. Please advise.

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Vanderbilt_Grad

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Honestly there is only one robe for an arcane warrior, the Reaper's Vestments. You have to buy them in Denerim. Head wise, I usually find helms to be better than most of the hats but if you really want hats ... then I would say The Libertarian's Cowl from the Mage's tower.



Really though you can wear armor without getting fatigue up too high. The heavy and medium Superior Wade's armor for instance is really good for this.

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Carmen_Willow

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Yep, I've worn Wade's Wear for practicality.....but it just doesn't look "magey" enough. Fashion sense will get my character killed, unfortunately. I bought the Reaper's Vestments last playthrough; I just didn't know if there was anything better out there. I wish there were a way to enchant clothing like you do weapons....then one could be stylish while cutting swaths through darkspawn.

#132
stonehead227

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Cailan's Armor trumps all for fashion, practicality, and health regen.

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M8DMAN

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What the heck does Base stats mean?

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soteria

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Depending on context, either your character's starting stats or stats before adding gear and spec bonuses in.

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M8DMAN

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soteria wrote...

Depending on context, either your character's starting stats or stats before adding gear and spec bonuses in.

I'm creating a new rouge Character, what should my starting stats be?

#136
soteria

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Well, to quote dkjestrup from the first page, the following is your end goal:

15 Strength (including fade bonus, don't need any points if you're a human or a dwarf)

max dex (on a dex build) or 30 for a cunning rogue (for tier 7 daggers)

base wil

base con

base mag

30 cun (dex build) or max cun (cunning build)


In the beginning, I recommend raising dex faster than cunning until you pick up Lethality, assuming you go that route. In this context, "base" means starting stats.

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Fantastic guide, thank you very much for putting it together.. I do have a question though.. 15 str for Dagger Rogues, the start value for humans and dwarves are 11 and as fas as I can see you only get three points in the Fade? (Burning Tower, Mage Asunder, Darkspawn Invasion) Have I missed one or is has the starting values changed in a patch/different on consoles?

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DWSmiley

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You missed one. There are two in Mages Asunder - 1 at the entrance via mouse and 1 near the end protected by 3 golems.

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Ameanor

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Oh I see, thank you!

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Lord Elfiian

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I have a question? I play on the console and want to be a sword and shield warrior tank. Since dex does not increase damage should I still put stat points into dex and just deal with the low damage my character will do?

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BP20125810

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Is the Blood Dragon Armor good for dps duel wield warrior?

#142
tonnactus

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Does threaten actually work somehow? I dont see any effect.Only taunt work like threaten should.(enemies attack the "tank")

Modifié par tonnactus, 27 octobre 2010 - 06:54 .


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Lord Elfiian

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Threaten does work but not in the same way as taunt does. It does not actually pull enemies on to you but rather increases the amount of threat that you gain from attacking enemies doubled in fact. So if you do not do any damage then you will not see any effect.

Lets say the enemy you are facing (also works with enemies) has 200 health and you reduce it to 160. You do 40 damage so you gain 20 threat, therefore with the threaten ability your threat will not be will not be cut in half letting your 40 points of damage gain 40 threat onto yourself. Rogues only gain 80% of this however. 

Modifié par Lord Elfiian, 29 octobre 2010 - 02:31 .


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Ser Kory

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For future ref. Dog is a boy.

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Elthunder

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I hope this thread is about if you'r in a party online or something, because you can win whatever you spec really, I have never had any problem except for now as Im playing Nightmare, but the otherwise this is information that would be of alot more use if it was an MMO, not saying it's bad to know about what each stats does and how to use everything in the best possible way.

Ans SnS is really just called S/S by the way not that it matters, and most call it sword and board :P

This is actually one of the few games I haven't had to care much about tactics, because of the easymode rules, if one survives and you kill the enemy all get back up + it dos'nt matter if the main char dies.

I just jumped into a battle, and messed things up abit, but one of my mages survived, and even though I had to kite quite abit I manage to kill everyone with just the one char, and voila, my whole party was saved, yaay ;D

Modifié par Elthunder, 27 janvier 2011 - 11:25 .


#146
Elthunder

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Lord Elfiian wrote...

I have a question? I play on the console and want to be a sword and shield warrior tank. Since dex does not increase damage should I still put stat points into dex and just deal with the low damage my character will do?


I would say that it matters little, I always put some into dex even after haveing gotten all the skills, but  if you want to be more or less only someone that keeps agro and survives long, then sure, I think the Warrior has enough defence neways, so I often put alot into str also as I want him to do decent damage.

Still I would never just keep to one or 2 stats, like dex and con, I distribute them over str, dex and con all the way.

Modifié par Elthunder, 27 janvier 2011 - 09:42 .


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NewYears1978

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I love this guide I only wish there was a more step by step, as in Level 1 do this Level 2 do this.

Taking into account using the mods that allow you to level-up new party members from scratch..and/or using respec mod.

#148
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Talents

Rogues are starved for talents. You can't max out all of your skills. I recommend you put only dex until you have 24 dex, and go straight for Momentum. Momentum is basically a flat 40% DPS increase, which is awesome. First level, though pick up Deft Hands as well as dual weapon sweep, as there are a lot of locks that you can pick in the origins. After Momentum, get Combat Movement, making Backstabbing much easier. Then I'd get Riposte, then get Deadly Strike before level 8. Then at level 8, you can take Lethality and Coup De Grace, which are cornerstones to this build. Then put your points into stealth. At level 13 you should have Master Stealth, Coup De Grace, Lethality, Momentum and Riposte. Then you can focus on specializations, after that, start putting points in the Dual Weapons line till expertise. If you're playing a Dex build, put the points from the Lethality line into lockpicking instead.

This is a quote from the Backstabing rogue area: I am working on this now, and I am going dex build (what is the benfit for having a cunning build?). So if I am going Dex I dont want Lethality? I would figure since they it takes so much Dex what this would be a must have line.

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Cunning does more damage due to various things (increased armor pen, use cun instead of str, increase in backstab dam from higher cun in the assassin tree etc), dex is more survivable.
If there is nothing else that you want then there is nothing stopping you getting Lethality, but what in the line makes you think you need it?

#150
Darkshadow29

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If you're playing a Dex build, put the points from the Lethality line into lockpicking instead.

this line from the gude. Which would you suggest for the first play through, a dex bs rogue or a cunning bs rogue?