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[Vicious]

Because every good RPG needs a sequel.

[Aanorith]

Going through with the ritual seems like the only reasonable thing to do imo. No matter how I twist and turn it's still the same outcome. My main concern being if both Alistair and main PC dies we're all screwed. With the ritual the chance for sucess has bin increased greatly.

My rogue was romanticly involved with Morrigan so, even tho I questioned her movties it still felt right RP-wise ^^
As for my mage who favors Leliana, ill be asking Alistair to do the ritual.
Quite frankly it souldn't really be an issue. In my head the conversation sould go something along the lines of

PC: Alistair, It recently occured to me the it would be quite a good idea for you to lay down the hammer on Morrigan, no?
Alistair: Quite.

The end, happy ending, woo!

Modifié par Aanorith, 30 décembre 2009 - 01:51 .

[IronVanguard]

On my original one, a Human Noble, I took it.



Namely not to die, I suppose. I wasn't fond of that.



And I made a split save off that one, where I became King, giving me even less reason to kill myself.



The one I'm on right now, Dwarf Noble, I rejected the offer. Mainly to see what happens, but also to make Loghain do it. Time for Redemption.

[Sly Stilla]

Because it's a win-win situation.

[hisaksson422]

My bloodmage was doing deals with demons to the left and right for his own gain, he didn't need to think twice about this, it was the obvious choice for him...

and for all the 'good' heroes out there that still went through with it, keep telling yourselves that you did the right thing...

[Layn]

as i said in other threads:
on one hand my character felt that Morrigan could take care of a child and had become good and trustworthy. also a child with an old god soul doesn't seem like a big danger. On the other hand if she survived she could continue doing good things, like setting up the Ferelden Grey Wardens (don't trust those foreign wardens much, somewhat agree with loghain there) and help out the legion of the dead in the deep roads.
it also raised the chance that they could succesfully kill the archdemon, and the new king of ferelden would survive

Modifié par Crrash, 30 décembre 2009 - 02:28 .

[Squiggles1334]

**** Morrigan, my character chose to not **** Morrigan.



'Cept maybe once, just to unlock the achievement.

[MEUTRIERE]

Because I like me some happy endings. 

[jmp0505]

I've played the game twice going with Morrigan's plan and twice not doing it - just depends on the roleplay I have worked out, which sort of drives the decisions at the end of the game. I have to say, I did not opt for her option, with my angry, suspicious city elf (who sacrificed herself out of sheer irritation at the whole messed up stuff at the end... heh.) But the two of them had actually gotten to be sort of friends - oddly, it was that character who had the most favorable rating with Morrigan. There was actually a nice moment there, when Morrigan pauses, leaving after her offer is rejected, where they did a good job with her expression - half angry, half sad. But she leaves, as she said she would. No "maybe preggers" in the epilogue either.

[Mentant98]

The baby is a vessel. I'd wager that Morrigan's task was really the culimination of Flemeth's plan. Flemeth was to possess Morrigan, and then raise the baby herself. A baby with the soul of an Old God. Assuming that she could control it, Flemeth would have an opportunity to possess an Old God herself.



One wonders how much of this Morrigan could have guessed. . . and perhaps whether she thinks she could pull off the same feat.

[robertthebard]

Why not do it?

[stormrain]

My City Elf refused the ritual because, frankly, the offer shocked her so much that she had barely any time to process it. Even if she had, she still would have refused. Alistair was king and she could see no future for them to truly be together, and the thought of Alistair sleeping with Morrigan or sacrificing himself to kill the Archdemon ripped her heart in two. So, seeing as it was a better and more honorable option than suicide, she sacrificed herself to save everything she loved and prove that elves were equal to humans.

My Human Noble is a different story. He was utterly in love with Morrigan and only did the ritual because he didn't want her to leave, even though he knew she would anyway. The fact that he got to live was just a bonus.

I haven't gotten to that part of the game for my Dalish, so I can't really think of a motive for him. But since he's romancing Leliana, he's gonna have Alistair complete the ritual because he's faithful like that. And having a demon baby as an heir will be a nice backup if the taint prevents Anora and Alistair from having children.

[KCat]

My elven mage accepted since the idea of saving the old god was something he saw as good. My character was a seeker-of-knowledge type, who didn't particularly care for the Circle's rules, although not rebelliously so, nor very much into the Chantry's beliefs. Morrigan made a convincing case for there being some things in the world worth preserving, and preserving the old god in the hope of the world gaining some knowledge from it in some form, was very alluring. That it would also keep him alive, should it come to him to give the Archdemon the final blow, was also a good bonus.

[vickiediablos]

On my first playthrough, my female Human Noble took the offer because she was in love with Alistair and they're going to marry. She'd rather engage in some blood magic-esque ritual and bring to the world some old god soul than bear the thought that she could possibly lose Alistair to the Archdemon. She also trusted Morrigan that the child won't come back to steal the throne. She didn't mind her betrothed sleeping with another person -- it would be hypocritical of her to mind since she slept with both Leliana and Zevran for the pleasure (achievement, lol) while she was in a relationship with Alistair.



On my second playthrough, my male Dalish Elf rejected the offer even though he was in a relationship with Morrigan. He was partly unhappy that Loghain survived the Joining and wanted to see him atone for what he's done. He didn't think he'd really lose Morrigan or that Loghain would be hailed as a hero. Turned out Morrigan was pregnant with his(?) child all along, anyway.

[Hyper Cutter]

Sacrificing your own life is for chumps.

[mjohanson]

Urn of sacred ashes when Morrigan was questioned.

[Sabriana]

I haven't found any clear explanation about the whole thing anywhere, and that's the reason I don't allow the ritual. If the taint is so bad that it'll kill the GW who slays the archdemon, why is it possible to enter a fetus and not be bad? I guess I have to search some more about that.

Anyway, in my first play-through my mage allowed Alistair to sacrifice himself (I admit, it was revenge), and in subsequent ones, Loghain is the lucky one who gets to die for Ferelden, and my PC can go off and have some happiness with her elf.

It is said that the old gods are not evil but made so by the darkspawn, and the current old god is supposedly the god of beauty or somesuch. It would be nice if for once the child didn't turn out to be bad/evil/psychopathic/etc but a good person. Morrigan claims it's for 'freedom' and her being an apostate, that could mean freedom for the mages. My mage PCs are all angry about being herded like cattle and constantly at the mercy of the templars, so that's something to contemplate.

Anyway, I do feel bad having to deny Morrigan all the time. For some reason, whether my PCs try or not, they always end up being friends with her.

[Smitridel]

Interesting...Seven out of ten answers, claim that they did everything else except for the ultimate sacrifice.

Goes to show that the DA:O world is dark enough, not to.."allow"  the main protagonist to martyr himself.

Modifié par Smitridel, 30 décembre 2009 - 08:36 .

[Sabriana]

Smitridel wrote...

Interesting...Seven out of ten answers, claim that they did everything else except for the ultimate sacrifice.

Goes to show that the DA:O world is dark enough, not to.."allow"  the main protagonist to martyr himself.

For me it's mostly because I'm sick and tired of the endings "Rocks fall - everyone dies" that seem to be commonplace nowadays with RPG's and even the hybrids.

My PC's consider this:
1.They've been practically robbed of home/clan/family and forcefully drafted into the Grey Wardens. My noble had it worse than everyone. She got to watch her father being blackmailed while his life was draining out of him.

2.They've been forced to partake in a ritual that could very well kill them on the spot, be it by the blood or by Duncan's murder knife

3. They received a 30 year death sentence and get to go into the Deep Roads (which creeped me out, btw) to end their lives

4. They've been most likely robbed of creating children, they might be able to conceive and carry one, but the odds are aweful

5. They've got to romp all over Ferelden being drawn into bloody battles to amass an army. Not one ally said "okey-dokey, we'll be there". No, each and every one of them needed help in some way, shape, or form.

Now, in my opinion, that's a heck of alot of things the GWs already got out of my girls. They are not willing to top all of that off by sacrificing what little life they have left, thanks to them. They'll help rebuild them, that has to be good enough.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I'm waiting for the terrible outcome. I feel it. Deep in my bones. Babies!

There is no maternal instinct in this one whatsoever. Bring her in for study!

The same maternal/paternal instinct that leads you to expose a  hild to unknown blood magic, fiddle with it's soul, and give it to Morrigan to raise alone?

[Layn]

Sabriana wrote...

I haven't found any clear explanation about the whole thing anywhere, and that's the reason I don't allow the ritual. If the taint is so bad that it'll kill the GW who slays the archdemon, why is it possible to enter a fetus and not be bad? I guess I have to search some more about that.

actually at that time its an embryo or whatever

three possibilities:
embryo's soul is too weak and is killed by old god soul
embryo's soul is malleable and merges with old god soul (i think this is the one that Morrigan tells you)
there is no soul yet, so the old god can just enter the body and be alright.

[Sabriana]

Yeah, either an embryo or still a zygote, I'm not sure about the time when that changes, biology lessons are too far in the past

Numbers one and three on your list are downright scary. A merger with an existing soul sounds better for some reason.