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[An English Gamer]

 Here's what I've found out so far:
Against normal mob: Snap freeze + incinerate = Cryo explosion. However in order to set off a second explosion in the next cast the mob you detonated must not have been frozen.
If the mob you detonated was chilled and there is still a frozen one on the floor incinerating that will trigger a second explosion.  <-- This is being inconsistent...

Against armour: Alternating cryo and incinerate will roll out constant cryo and fire explosions. Fun times.

Againsts shielded enemies including bosses: Cryo + Energy Drain = Cryo explosion. Alternating between these two till the shields go down seems to be the best option.

Hopefully this info will prove useful for the moment.

Modifié par An English Gamer, 11 octobre 2012 - 04:53 .

[INVADERONE]

This is the way he was supposed to work in the first place. Now that everything is fixed he is ....A W E S O M E.

[dragaaan]

i have played the paladin for tha last 2 days and they all work, it depends on the timing and the enemy. for example i can inc+ed an atlas for a FE but this will not work on enemies that have only armor. at least this is what happened to me several times.
i play 6/6/6/0/6 it is amazing you dont need power damage so you can easily skip the passives. i took the fire shield and i love it. meele, snap freeze meele kills kind of everthing. works amazing on dragoones and pyros as well

[Ben Gadura]

INVADERONE wrote...

This is the way he was supposed to work in the first place. Now that everything is fixed he is ....A W E S O M E.

They still need to fix all the bugs snap freeze has, but i agree, this character is fantastic now.

[CitizenThom]

I go with 3 / 6 (Damage to Frozen +100%) / 6 (Tech Combos +100%) / 5 (Power Dmg)/ 6. Lots of detonations.

[Silent Indignation]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

He can constantly pull of tech explosions.

Snap Freeze -> Incinerate= Cryo Explosion + set up for fire explosion -> Energy Drain= Fire Explosion, set up for tech burst -> Snap Freeze =tech burst + set up for cryo explosion -> incinerate = cryo explosion + set up for fire explosion -> and so on and so on

If you repeat this pattern he will be able to explode something everytime he uses and ability. Combine that with a suited ammo type and he's a machine right now.

Does this seriously work? If so, then that's awesome! Can't wait to respec after work!

[Epique Phael767]

KeeperB5 wrote...
Energy drain is bugged.

That it is. I wish they would fix the paladin's tech bursts and fire explosions.

[Patitis]

Oh you haven't seen what happens when someone uses overload with multiple jump evolution right after you use snap freeze on a cluster of enemies?

[PsychoticBiotic]

Energy Drain only detonates Cryo and Fire Explosions against synthetics. Not sure if that's a bug or intentional.

Im not sure if Incinerate is worth maxing out. I've been running without it, and I was thinking of respecting and putting 3 or 4 ranks into it. Is fully evolving it worth it on the Paladin?

Modifié par PsychoticBiotic, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:57 .

[dream3873]

This guys is really nice now. I speced out incinerate for max tech explosion. Fun times indeed. Takes armored targets down quick and mobs. Combined with a scorpion its just sick.

[darkpassenger2342]

so, is freeze combo ( incinerate evo 6a)  on paladin still not working with snap freeze/incinerate?

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:29 .

[Lucrece]

Incinerate is actually nice now, so with two or three of them my Paladin has ranged power he lacked before.

Phantoms and Dragoons are a walk in the park. It's the improved Atlas that can rough you up, such an annoying mob now though not nearly as cheap as Geth Prime.

[dream3873]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

so, is freeze combo ( incinerate evo 6a)  on paladin still not working with snap freeze/incinerate?

That was part of what they fixed yes it is working.

[darkpassenger2342]

dream3873 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

so, is freeze combo ( incinerate evo 6a)  on paladin still not working with snap freeze/incinerate?

That was part of what they fixed yes it is working.

 its been stated numerous times that the patch fixed it for cryo blast ( everyone but the paladin) but not snap freeze.
 i don't know how true this is because ive been playing other stuff.

[koschwarz74]

Paladin was awesome before, now possibly one of the best character. damn i NEED lots of respec card...

[majinstrings]

I was getting Cryo Explosions like crazy against the Geth, this morning...Snap Freeze + Area Energy Drain = Awesome!

[Guglio08]

Energy Drain won't work on organics, but Fire Shield and then Snap Freeze does set off Fire Explosions.

[Elecbender]

Although the 100% tech burst combo for Snap Freeze is bugged, it still works with Cryo Explosions as someone tested.

I will respec and see for myself.

[Ragnakuna]

I brushed off my human engy after the changes to tech explosions and was downright amazed and how much more useful she was now. Can't wait to see what I can do as my paladin, to have both of my favorite non-infiltrators buffed might mean I'll have to put my volus adept to standby.

[himegoto]

I think everyone of you saying you cant get snap freeze bursts working may not be triggering it in time?

[Tronar]

sareth_65536 wrote...

wait, target needs to be fully frozen to have the CE exploded.
Then how does ED+Snap freeze is a CE?
and how does snap freeze + ED is a CE on a shielded boss?

Hmmm... your 2nd question is indeed a good question. I have two theories:

1. the text in the balance changes said:
- The target must still be fully frozen to be detonated.

Maybe they meant with "detonated" the good old cryo explosion, where the enemy bursted into a thousand ice particles. So maybe Bioware's intention was that you have to fully freeze the target to get it killed with a cryo explosion instead of just dealing a lot of damage with the cryo explosion.

2. it's bugged, but this time in favor of us players, because we can not set up cryo explosions with cryo ammo, even if the target is just chilled and not frozen.

Your first question, why ED+Snap Freeze is a CE although it should be a Tech Burst (primer was ED=tech power), I have no clue. But I also have a hard to believe it without having seen it in the game myself. Since Leland Gaunt claims differently a few posts above yours, I rather think he is right and you were just mislead either by a teammate priming for a cryo explosion without you noticing or something else going on.

[HolyAvenger]

I love this kit, but I almost prefer rolling with incendiary ammo and ignoring incinerate in the build.

[N7Kopper]

Fire Shield + Snap Freeze = Amazing hotness.
Yeah, sure, Snap Freeze detonations detonate on the Paladin and not the enemy... but that's a good thing! SF is close-ranged anyway! 10 metres without the range evolution.

It works double well when I've just been revived. Deploying melee before you finish getting up is utterly doable, even if it looks like an animation nightmare. "Sorry, Mr. Dragoon, EAT MY FIREY HOLOGRAPHIC SMASHING BOARD! And now PK FREEZE!" *boom*

HolyAvenger wrote...

I love this kit, but I almost prefer rolling with incendiary ammo and ignoring incinerate in the build.

If the last point in N7 Paladin wasn't so superflous to the guy (I guess I could make my Graal X weigh 20% less, or deal even more overkill damage?) I'd probably agree.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:02 .