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[Josh.de]

I´ve noticed this since the Retaliation DLC install.

After the new DLC I´ve played hosting as Human Vanguard vs. Reapers/Gold and the way I was used to go through every wave before was not possible in any way. In wave 6 I had used already all medigels and ops packs, normally I would have used 1-2 medigels and 2-3 ops packs until extraction.

Anyone saying this is not a bug, an (un)intentionally removed shield/healthgate doesn´t know what he/she is even talking about.

Modifié par Josh.de, 12 octobre 2012 - 12:44 .

[Arppis]

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

[Deucetipher]

It seems as though health gate is functional. I was riding it quite often today vs. gold collectors

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Arppis wrote...

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

Pwn has it on good authority that it's a bug. He's working on getting the actual quotes from the dev in question.

[Ryu Connor]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

Pwn has it on good authority that it's a bug. He's working on getting the actual quotes from the dev in question.

Then the game is effectively boned for months.  This isn't a PC only title in which they can rush out a single patch fix.  The cost and certification process will exact a toll.

[rmccowen]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

Pwn has it on good authority that it's a bug. He's working on getting the actual quotes from the dev in question.

For what it's worth, I remember the same quote--but I just spent an hour trying to find it, and couldn't.

[Trogdorx]

UnRestrikted wrote...

I just wish Bioware would do something about the high DPS, perfect accuracy, insane fire rate and infinite ammo without reloading on Cannibals, Marauders and Centurions.

You forgot Phantoms. If they fixed the gating back to the way it was,  I could deal with the cannibals, marauders, and cents. But... dat Phantom. :/

[RequiemPrime]

Ryu Connor wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

Pwn has it on good authority that it's a bug. He's working on getting the actual quotes from the dev in question.

Then the game is effectively boned for months.  This isn't a PC only title in which they can rush out a single patch fix.  The cost and certification process will exact a toll.

Great. <_<

Meanwhile we will have players giving up mid-matches thinking that the game has gotten too hard for them to handle.

And two more times today from different players I've heard:

"Why am I going down so much?  I can always take x-enemy with x-character." 

Very nearly word for word from both players.

[johnstreetmusic]

I'm late to the party but the healthgate is a major issue. I've adjusted my game but it's only because I've gone to playing decoy/turret/drone classes to draw fire. I miss my Batarians.

[Captain Flowers]

Yea I've been noticing a problem as well. Players that I normally play with that are usually good are going down in record numbers. It's really frustrating being the only one left in a round. Silver has definitely felt harder.

[afb2271]

This would explain why my Asari builds don't feel the same. Something needs to be done about this.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

I think the only reason it hasn't been worse is that the KRO TEAM favors classes with insane durability in the first place. We all use Krogans, but RoadGGG favors the N7 Destroyer as a backup, CeilingKid favors the N7 Shadow, and I tend to use Turians. The end result is that we've survived many, many gold runs, but there is no question that survival rates are way down.

This is a fatal bug that will functionally kill this game if not dealt with.

[Exicuren]

joker_jack wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Elecbender wrote...

The "health gate" never shielded you from automatic fire nor DOT.

The mechanic protects you from one lethal attack. It does not matter how powerful or weak the attack.

It gave you a brief moment of absolute invincibility from everything, though, which saves lives.

Geth bomber or squad of dragoons can wipe out the players in one attack with this bug especially when it comes to the hacks or escorts. Kinda good to have a volus with you as that is one of the only ways around the issue for now, along with playing a new turian or kroguard. 

But the problem is that there's a glitch with Volus' shield boost ability, which it can lock your weapon and power usage and it forces you to press space bar or do a heavy meele after the lock.

[Sir_Alan_]

Interesting, so it's not just in our heads lol Well, the sooner this s**t gets sorted out the happier we will all be

I wonder if the new enemy types seems a tad over powered because of this issue...? Then again i've seen some absurb downs when it comes to Dragoons, Geth Bombers and the entire Collector faction...

[Snicket]

What a terrible time to have a bug.

Good thing bioware has been good about addressing the issue...oh, wait.

[BIOFAN]

if its a bug im gonna move on from this game, im not waiting for another patch <_<

they should temporarily scaledown difficulties: bronze should be silver, silver should be gold and gold should be platinum, bronze should stay bronze if the devs want. 

Modifié par BIOFAN, 12 octobre 2012 - 02:13 .

[King Ptolemy IV]

I have been wondering about this, if it is not a bug would they consider removing the health segments and make it one long bar to restore. Also an instant shield recharge for survival packs and stim packs would be appreciated, no more half second for it to fully refill just make it instant.

[X-Frame]

To compensate then all enemies should have their gates removed as well. That can be done via weekly balance changes and not require a patch whereas on our own characters it probably will.

[Zaidra]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

VirDeBello wrote...

If the game is too hard for you then go down to bronze or silver. They put new enemies in the game and you didn't expect the game to get more difficulter? Did you think it was going to get easier lol?

I encourage everyone in this thread to ignore this variety of post for the thread's duration. It contributes nothing, offers no insight, and is devoid of substance. Its whole purpose is to drag the thread off-course and to attempt to destroy productivity therein.

Please, do not feed the idiots.

[Dilandau3000]

Look how quickly I go down in this video at 33:54. Phantom takes down my shields and I get instantly killed (not sync-killed, just regular death), no delay whatsoever. It must be the lack of shield gates.

Oh wait... that was recorded in August.

Honestly, looking at my old videos, I'm not sure anything's really different.

[SINisterSniper55]

count_4 wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Got any official dev response to back that up?
Cause I was unable to find any evidence for changes to the gates during the testing I did.

There has been zero official response yet. Draw your own conclusions.

As for changes to the gate,  it's been widely documented by several, including here. There's a lot of cases of no shields = mooks annihilate you.

Linking the same video a hundred times doesn't change the fact that he's killed by the Praetorian beam in the only scene that remotely qualifies as 'proof' for the gate conspiracy. Beam is not affected by the gates.

Not saying that nothing has vhanged, but I have yet to see actual proves. From others as well as my own videos.

actually, at about 5:30 in the video a Scion takes out all his shields and some health in one shot, he stim packs, another single shot takes out all his shields again and down him.

[joker_jack]

More videos posted demonstrating the issue the better.

[hudder92]

So that's why I've been spending the majority of every match I play with a sliver of health. Figures.

[Harbingerpromo]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Look how quickly I go down in this video at 33:54. Phantom takes down my shields and I get instantly killed (not sync-killed, just regular death), no delay whatsoever. It must be the lack of shield gates.

Oh wait... that was recorded in August.

Honestly, looking at my old videos, I'm not sure anything's really different.

Thank you. Your video is the exact proof that something is not working well.

Let's see what happens here:

In the first shot we see you are taking some heavy shield damage, from what I believe is the Phantom you are aiming at. Your health is 3 bars.:




Again, second shot you are still taking damage to your shield. Health still at 3 bars:



In the third shot you manage to get away and your shield start replenishing. Health still at 3 bars:



Fourth shot you get caught again, losing shields. Health still at 3 bars:



On the fifth shot you have exhausted your shields and now your health is taking damage:




NOW:

Turian receives fire from 3 cannibals.

First shot and second shot. His SHIELDS are STILL THERE, but his health is taking damage:





What would have happened in August, when you recorded that video, if this "bug" was in effect like it is now? You would have died. In the second shot you would be dead.

[Captain Funky Blimp]

I've spent over 630 hours playing this game, which is kind of sad. I know when something has changed. I'm suddenly using TWICE the consumables that I used to in order to survive a gold match.

If this isn't fixed, all we're going to see is Harrier-wielding infiltrators from now on.