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[CmdrPwn]

rmccowen wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Has anyone receved any word from Bioware about this?

Pwn has it on good authority that it's a bug. He's working on getting the actual quotes from the dev in question.

For what it's worth, I remember the same quote--but I just spent an hour trying to find it, and couldn't.

I looked for a while and couldn't find it either.

[Captain Funky Blimp]

Harbingerpromo wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Look how quickly I go down in this video at 33:54. Phantom takes down my shields and I get instantly killed (not sync-killed, just regular death), no delay whatsoever. It must be the lack of shield gates.

Oh wait... that was recorded in August.

Honestly, looking at my old videos, I'm not sure anything's really different.

Thank you. Your video is the exact proof that something is not working well.

Let's see what happens here:

In the first shot we see you are taking some heavy shield damage, from what I believe is the Phantom you are aiming at. Your health is 3 bars.:




Again, second shot you are still taking damage to your shield. Health still at 3 bars:



In the third shot you manage to get away and your shield start replenishing. Health still at 3 bars:



Fourth shot you get caught again, losing shields. Health still at 3 bars:



On the fifth shot you have exhausted your shields and now your health is taking damage:




NOW:

Turian receives fire from 3 cannibals.

First shot and second shot. His SHIELDS are STILL THERE, but his health is taking damage:





What would have happened in August, when you recorded that video, if this "bug" was in effect like it is now? You would have died. In the second shot you would be dead.

POST THIS EVERYWHERE.

[DC69]

Snicket wrote...

What a terrible time to have a bug.

Good thing bioware has been good about addressing the issue...oh, wait.

You mean like the face import glitch? The one that stil isn't completey fixed for FemSheps??

[Dilandau3000]

Harbingerpromo wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Look how quickly I go down in this video at 33:54. Phantom takes down my shields and I get instantly killed (not sync-killed, just regular death), no delay whatsoever. It must be the lack of shield gates.

Oh wait... that was recorded in August.

Honestly, looking at my old videos, I'm not sure anything's really different.

Thank you. Your video is the exact proof that something is not working well.

Let's see what happens here:

In that bit, I took a total of three shots with pretty big delays between them, allowing the deplete animation for the shield bar to complete.

Now look at the bit that I pointed out (33:54):


Coming down the ladder, I'm fine.


The two phantoms (one in front and one way back) start taking out my shield.


Now they're taking out my health, despite a sliver of shields seemingly remaining. Then I die (killed by an off-screen guardian who nailed me the instant my health hit the critical health gate).

Total amount of time from when I first start taking damage until I die: 23 frames of video, or roughly 2/3rd of a second. How do you explain that if there was supposed to be a delay before the patch?

And remember, this was recorded in August, before the DLC and patch.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I do agree that something appears to be different about the shield/health gate than before. But I don't think we've really nailed down what it is yet.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:41 .

[Harbingerpromo]

From what I believe, you are comparing two totally different situations. You are falling down the stairs and a phantom first takes your shields, and then they take out your only bar of health available. Of course two phantoms are gonna take down an asari adept with only ONE health bar with melee attacks in 2/3rd of a second.

On the pics that i'm posting the turian (a far more durable character than the asari adept) is walking full health and full shields against three cannibals and his health starts taking damage even when his shields are almost at 20% percent (possibly even sooner, youtube doesn't allow much precision). How much damage can 3 cannibals do to a turian? More than two phantoms on an asari on a dying asari? You surely can't be serious

[Dilandau3000]

Harbingerpromo wrote...

From what I believe, you are comparing two totally different situations. You are falling down the stairs and a phantom first takes your shields, and then they take out your only bar of health available. Of course two phantoms are gonna take down an asari adept with only ONE health bar with melee attacks in 2/3rd of a second.

On the pics that i'm posting the turian (a far more durable character than the asari adept) is walking full health and full shields against three cannibals and his health starts taking damage even when his shields are almost at 20% percent (possibly even sooner, youtube doesn't allow much precision). How much damage can 3 cannibals do to a turian? More than two phantoms on an asari on a dying asari? You surely can't be serious

But if there were supposed to be a delay, a number of invincibility frames as you hit the gate, surely that would be visible regardless of how much health I had?

And you're not comparing like-for-like either. You're comparing a turian taking focused fire from several enemies, to a segment in my video where I take three shots from apparently a single phantom, with about a second delay between each shot.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:46 .

[Dilandau3000]

Another example from a different video. At 13:13, I go from full health to dead in 43 frames, a little over 1.3 seconds. Where are these invincibility frames that were supposedly present before the patch? I've examined this video frame-by-frame, there are no shots taken at me that don't cause damage.

EDIT: I like how this thread is making me post all my stupidest deaths.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:56 .

[Harbingerpromo]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...

From what I believe, you are comparing two totally different situations. You are falling down the stairs and a phantom first takes your shields, and then they take out your only bar of health available. Of course two phantoms are gonna take down an asari adept with only ONE health bar with melee attacks in 2/3rd of a second.

On the pics that i'm posting the turian (a far more durable character than the asari adept) is walking full health and full shields against three cannibals and his health starts taking damage even when his shields are almost at 20% percent (possibly even sooner, youtube doesn't allow much precision). How much damage can 3 cannibals do to a turian? More than two phantoms on an asari on a dying asari? You surely can't be serious

But if there were supposed to be a delay, a number of invincibility frames as you hit the gate, surely that would be visible regardless of how much health I had?

I'm not saying there was an " invincibility frames", I'm saying that shields were created to protect your health and now, they are not doing their job. Something is very wrong if three cannibals shooting at a turian can take more than 20% of his health  when there's almost 20% shields still in the bar. I would love to get the original video of that guy to pinpoint with more accuracy the EXACT moment where his health is taking damage and his "shields" still active.

Is that or now three cannibals can do more damage than two phantoms going full melee. Either way something is totally wrong.

[Dilandau3000]

Harbingerpromo wrote...

I'm not saying there was an " invincibility frames", I'm saying that shields were created to protect your health and now, they are not doing their job.

But many people are saying exactly that: that there were invincibility frames and that those being gone is the difference.

I agree there is a difference, but based on my videos I don't think that (removal of invincibility frames) was it. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm sorry if I misled you.

[VirDeBello]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

VirDeBello wrote...

If the game is too hard for you then go down to bronze or silver. They put new enemies in the game and you didn't expect the game to get more difficulter? Did you think it was going to get easier lol?

I encourage everyone in this thread to ignore this variety of post for the thread's duration. It contributes nothing, offers no insight, and is devoid of substance. Its whole purpose is to drag the thread off-course and to attempt to destroy productivity therein.

Please, do not feed the idiots.

Says the person that has no quote or link from a dev saying that this is a bug or glitch. Maybe its time to buy an new router or something better then Walmart internet. 

[Harbingerpromo]

Thanks again:

A shadow (known for his invincible shields) taking TWO rockets and getting flamed by a piro....



Does NOT take damage until his shields are completly (or almost) gone.

[Harbingerpromo]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Harbingerpromo wrote...

I'm not saying there was an " invincibility frames", I'm saying that shields were created to protect your health and now, they are not doing their job.

But many people are saying exactly that: that there were invincibility frames and that those being gone is the difference.

I agree there is a difference, but based on my videos I don't think that (removal of invincibility frames) was it. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm sorry if I misled you.

No problem my man I like nice discussion that actually go somewhere

[Ulrich282]

I play as my full durability specced paladin and the a volus has more survivability than me.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Good work, mentlegen. Keep the vids and photo stuff incoming!

[Bob_Morane_1980]

I don't know where the devs are, but we need an answer. Now, the game feel cheap. I still able to win at platinum and gold, but it's not fun anymore. I don't take it like a challenge, but more like an insult. I will stay playing because I love this game, but certainly less. I am tire to use my consumables for nothing but dying. Alas, random games begin to be a nightmare most of the time: peoples quitting, dying, raging and again disconnecting from EA server. I really wish it's a bug and that it will be fix.

[neverhadspam]

+1 as soon as im revived i feel like im getting hit by a pyro and get downed again

[Yate]

Right now, the game is broken. Either they fix their ****up or we sue them. Simple.

[bydoritos]

Yeah I'm noticing that my Fury and my Shadow are going down a lot faster now... and the fact that
enemies are faster in stomping you, I'm using a lot of medi-gels, I have very few medi-gels left now.
It's frustrating, get killed just a second after your shields go down.. and because some times you are lagging, I use a survival pack just seconds before going down, and it still uses the survival pack, giving me a lot of frustration.

Yate wrote...

Right now, the game is broken. Either they fix their ****up or we sue them. Simple.

you are overreacting...and no the game is not "broken" it feels unbalanced... and good luck trying to pull that on court.

Modifié par bydoritos, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:33 .

[joker_jack]

I just shot some solo video with a krogan battle master and the bug hit. Also an example vid of how cheap the geth have gotten, not that bioware is even giving a ***** anymore.

*It seems at least from what I shot the bombers just stagger no matter what.

Modifié par joker_jack, 12 octobre 2012 - 05:34 .

[CmdrPwn]

joker_jack wrote...

I just shot some solo video with a krogan battle master and the bug hit. Also an example vid of how cheap the geth have gotten, not that bioware is even giving a ***** anymore.

Are you going to upload it?

[joker_jack]

Cdr. Pwn wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

I just shot some solo video with a krogan battle master and the bug hit. Also an example vid of how cheap the geth have gotten, not that bioware is even giving a ***** anymore.

Are you going to upload it?

Yeah, It just takes a while for hd to render and upload.

[Fox-snipe]

For what it's worth, I just went through 32 pages of threads (roughly the last 24 hours), checking each thread that had Bioware replies and was unable to find any official comment on the issue.

[Loscakes]

Fox-snipe wrote...

For what it's worth, I just went through 32 pages of threads (roughly the last 24 hours), checking each thread that had Bioware replies and was unable to find any official comment on the issue.

I made a thread specifically requesting Bioware comment and it was ignored like all the rest.  The fact that they can't even take the time to, at the very least, say that they're aware of it but can't comment is nothing short of a Reaper sized middle finger to all of us.

[LukC]

I feel sorry for all Vorcha players, no point in health regen if you drop dead in less than1 sec :/

[MaxShine]

What abou reducing burst fire damage vs player health?