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[Herr Uhl]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Oh, I don't think he wanted her more in the future. But there's no denying that he like the ritual itself, otherwise the whole plan would have flown out the window and there's be splodey bits of Warden soul all over the top of Fort Drakon.

Having a blunt object shoved up your arse and getting electrocuted is pleasurable.

Well, I'll be damned.

[TheBlackBaron]

Herr Uhl wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Oh, I don't think he wanted her more in the future. But there's no denying that he like the ritual itself, otherwise the whole plan would have flown out the window and there's be splodey bits of Warden soul all over the top of Fort Drakon.

Having a blunt object shoved up your arse and getting electrocuted is pleasurable.

Well, I'll be damned.

Alistair has been repressed his entire life, whatwith the Chantry and the lack of female Grey Wardens. It's almost a given he'd have some strange kinks.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I was always thinking they liked each other. Alistair can forget about it, though, Morrigan is my character's girl, and Alistair can go lick a lampost. I think Alistair and Leliana would make the perfect couple.

[TheBlackBaron]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I was always thinking they liked each other. Alistair can forget about it, though, Morrigan is my character's girl, and Alistair can go lick a lampost. I think Alistair and Leliana would make the perfect couple.

tbh, I've always imagined Alistair and Morrigan sneaking off together when neither is involved with my PCs.

[Miri1984]

Leliana says she would make a move on him if it weren't for the female PC at one stage. But I think the two of them together would just be too sickeningly nice all the time. Probably get stabbed one night by a servant at the palace.

[Axekix]

Miri1984 wrote...

Leliana says she would make a move on him if it weren't for the female PC at one stage. But I think the two of them together would just be too sickeningly nice all the time. Probably get stabbed one night by a servant at the palace.

They could go together.  Though Alistair thinks she's pretty crazy IIRC.  At least that's the impression I got from the "party member gossip" convo with him and my male PC.

[TheBlackBaron]

Axekix wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

Leliana says she would make a move on him if it weren't for the female PC at one stage. But I think the two of them together would just be too sickeningly nice all the time. Probably get stabbed one night by a servant at the palace.

They could go together.  Though Alistair thinks she's pretty crazy IIRC.  At least that's the impression I got from the "party member gossip" convo with him and my male PC.

That's because Leliana is a bit left of center.

The eyelashes comment after sleeping with her still freaks me out, and after seeing Morrigan's (well concealed) hurt I made a panic revert to a spectacularly well timed quick-save and broke up with the bard.

[BlueMew]

blademaster7 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

BlueMew wrote...

3. He probably still enjoyed it on a purely physical level. Morrigan, more than likely, is that good. Though in the morning he might feel like after a night of heavy drinking. ("Oh no. I didn't, did I. Yes I did." *groan*)

Hmm, I wonder if she's better than the femPC.  That could cause... issues.

Well, you know what they say. Magic enhances the experience.
I wouldn't be surprised if he accidentally let's loose a "ahhh Morrigan" when he's having sex with his FHN wife

That would explain why the FHN queen disappears after Awakening.

PS: Ok. I'm gonna get flamed here...

ROFL

Er, anyway, I doubt it would make a difference with regards to a female Warden love, there is a great big ocean of Aaaargh, no, no, no between spending a night of fiery passion with Morrigan and spending the rest  of your life with her 

[Mlai00]

**Missionary position...

Morrigan: "What happened?"

Alistair: "I... can't. I just can't finish, with you!"

Morrigan: "I can help with that."

Alistair: "Oh? You have a spell for this too?"

Morrigan: "Ofc I do." Quietly raises her staff behind Alistair's naked butt, electrified.

Alistair: "Well, what are you waiting for? Whatever magic you're gonna do, do it noWAAAAAAGH~~~!!!!!!1"

[Wozza78]

Considering that "hardened" Alistair may have already participated in a rather sordid foursome in Denerim, I don't actually believe that him and Morrigan sharing a bed is beyond the realms of possibility. What I do find hard to believe is that after said union, Alistair was in any kind of condition to take part in a battle against The Arch Demon.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Herr Uhl wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Oh, I don't think he wanted her more in the future. But there's no denying that he like the ritual itself, otherwise the whole plan would have flown out the window and there's be splodey bits of Warden soul all over the top of Fort Drakon.

Having a blunt object shoved up your arse and getting electrocuted is pleasurable.

Well, I'll be damned.

The things you can learn on Bioware boards!

Whoever said that playing video games is uneducational and enlightening?

[Herr Uhl]

imported_beer wrote...

Oy, question!

What if Morrigan hadn't asked you but asked Alistair directly for the Dark Ritual? Would he have agreed? Would he have said no right off the bat? Would he have come to FemPC and discussed it? Thoughts?

I don't think he would have agreed, but he probably would have told the PC if he cared about them sufficiently.

Now, what would Loghain do in the same predicament?

[soignee]

Herr Uhl wrote...
Now, what would Loghain do in the same predicament?

Told Morrigan where to go, frankly. I can't see him agreeing to it.

[Wozza78]

Herr Uhl wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Oy, question!

What if Morrigan hadn't asked you but asked Alistair directly for the Dark Ritual? Would he have agreed? Would he have said no right off the bat? Would he have come to FemPC and discussed it? Thoughts?

I don't think he would have agreed, but he probably would have told the PC if he cared about them sufficiently.

Now, what would Loghain do in the same predicament?

That is just disturbing!!

[SarEnyaDor]

I kinda think he'd whip out his sword and order her out with some sort of slur about her witchy ways, and then he would be more determined to take the killing blow.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Herr Uhl wrote...
Now, what would Loghain do in the same predicament?

Clap his hands and then proceeds to tell her that she is doing a fine seductive performance, but no one is taken in by it. Of course.

[Wozza78]

My thought is that Loghain was willing to sacrifice The Grey Waedens and The King for his beliefs. I he is really that invested in Ferelden that he believes the country could not survive without him and he was given a way to survive once The Arch Demon was slain he would indeed show Morrigan his sword, and such other double entendres.

[SarEnyaDor]

imported_beer wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I kinda think he'd whip out his sword and order her out with some sort of slur about her witchy ways, and then he would be more determined to take the killing blow.

Loghain or Alistair?

I was talking about Loghain there, but I don't think Alistair's would have been too much different, even a completely unromanced Alistair needs some major convincing and only does it because the PC persuades him it is the best option.

Both of them believe in personal sacrifice for the greater good, afterall, and if we (the players) with our fear of death didn't intervene they'd both rather go down fighting for a noble cause than survive through sorcery and tricks.

[marquiseondore]

I think Alistair enjoys it up to the point where Morrigan shapeshifts from my FemPC back to her own form.

[Merilsell]

Aww I love this thread partly for it's lulzy but all the more for it's
good and deep characterization of Alistair (I'm a sucker for discussing a
character and his/her motives extensively -- henche my post)

I won't say martyr complex, but he's never had anyone just want
*him*.  Maric, Eamon, the Chantry....  Even Duncan, for all
that I think he truly did care about Alistair, only takes
him as a Grey Warden.  Your PC is the first person to be all 'I
don't care about anything else except YOU'.  Pretty powerful
stuff.

Exactly, that's how I see it. Alistair is that kind
of person who puts everything else above his own well-being. So if he can save one life with the DR, he is willing to do this even if he personally clearly DON'T want to. All the more if this person is the one he came to trust and care deeply about. Yeah I see his love for the PC nowhere near to shallow, it's quite the opposite, therefore I found the example with being like his father very fitting. Given the fact that the PC has fallen as hard for him as he has for her, the PC is the first person who wanted him for being himself, not the Warden Alistair not the king, just Alistair. That's how said in the quote is powerful stuff, he had never experienced before. That is among the reasons that he is eventually willing to do this, or better said it doesn't take much to convince him. It's not a lack of feelings thereof but the converse. The risk of losing the woman he loves and the only person who has accepted him wholeheartely or that she won't let him sacrifice himself to save her in the end,  is too high to bear after all,

I always see him there being a bit selfish there too (perhaps unintentional) which stands in contrary with his " I don't deserve to be happy" thinking but let me explain. Because by tormenting himself through the ritual -- which stands against everything he values as a GW,-- he is doing this to save the woman he loves, but eventually that ritual saves also this tiny, little piece of happiness Alistair was able to create for himself against all odds - not the Warden, not the king --- for himself..

So bottom line is 'hardened' or not, the love of the PC is very important to Alistair, only in case of having him toughened up, he is more aware of it, when his strong sense of duty isn't clouding everything anymore.

Okay there is still that evil demon baby, which got created in the process but well... one can't have everything, right.

Or maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it, but well I have to this later anyway, when my ficlet is reaching this 'arc'.

Gahhhh the idea some of you have that Alistair liked Morrigan 's
ritual and wants her more in the future makes me want to do
this:
/LSNFLSDFNLDFNLSDFNLSDKFHSDLFSLMEL

QFT. Yeah at some point the bodyfunction took surely over (otherwise there wouldn't be no demon baby) but enjoying it? Hell no. I think he was shrubbing his skin raw afterwards just to get rid of the scent and anything else of Morrigan while during I imagine him being --> all the time, trying not to breathe in order to avoid smelling her scent. xD Alistair is all but no type for a fling, sexy time for him isn't something casual and has to be associated with feelings. Sure he is a man and as said body took over at a point but that isn't equal with enjoying it. All the more I think he sees as as a yucky duty for reasons explained above.

However reading this thread gives me the impression that I'm one of the few persons who got the impression that Alistair and Morrigan can't stand each other for life. I mean it's pretty obvious they loathe each other ...and not every frikkin man and woman who were bantering/fighting are secretly in love with each other or want to get it on.  It happens very often that there is just hate. As simple as it is. 

This is always a part of a fandom I don't get (and seems to be a common disease/ follow a pattern of thought). Oooh look they are quarrelling, they must want each other sooo badly. They just don't know it yet.

Well....errr yeah. Exactly

Modifié par Merilsell, 05 avril 2010 - 04:30 .

[Wozza78]

Merilsell wrote...

Aww I love this thread partly for it's lulzy but all the more for it's
good and deep characterization of Alistair (I'm a sucker for discussing a
character and his/her motives extensively -- henche my post)

I won't say martyr complex, but he's never had anyone just want
*him*.  Maric, Eamon, the Chantry....  Even Duncan, for all
that I think he truly did care about Alistair, only takes
him as a Grey Warden.  Your PC is the first person to be all 'I
don't care about anything else except YOU'.  Pretty powerful
stuff.

Exactly, that's how I see it. Alistair is that kind
of person who puts everything else above his own well-being. So if he can save one life with the DR, he is willing to do this even if he personally clearly DON'T want to. All the more if this person is the one he came to trust and care deeply about. Yeah I see his love for the PC nowhere near to shallow, it's quite the opposite, therefore I found the example with being like his father very fitting. Given the fact that the PC has fallen as hard for him as he has for her, the PC is the first person who wanted him for being himself, not the Warden Alistair not the king, just Alistair. That's how said in the quote is powerful stuff, he had never experienced before. That is among the reasons that he is eventually willing to do this, or better said it doesn't take much to convince him. It's not a lack of feelings thereof but the converse. The risk of losing the woman he loves and the only person who has accepted him wholeheartely or that she won't let him sacrifice himself to save her in the end,  is too high to bear after all,

I always see him there being a bit selfish there too (perhaps unintentional) which stands in contrary with his " I don't deserve to be happy" thinking but let me explain. Because by tormenting himself through the ritual -- which stands against everything he values as a GW,-- he is doing this to save the woman he loves, but eventually that ritual saves also this tiny, little piece of happiness Alistair was able to create for himself against all odds - not the Warden, not the king --- for himself..

So bottom line is 'hardened' or not, the love of the PC is very important to Alistair, only in case of having him toughened up, he is more aware of it, when his strong sense of duty isn't clouding everything anymore.

Okay there is still that evil demon baby, which got created in the process but well... one can't have everything, right.

Or maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it, but well I have to this later anyway, when my ficlet is reaching this 'arc'.

Gahhhh the idea some of you have that Alistair liked Morrigan 's
ritual and wants her more in the future makes me want to do
this:
/LSNFLSDFNLDFNLSDFNLSDKFHSDLFSLMEL

QFT. Yeah at some point the bodyfunction took surely over (otherwise there wouldn't be no demon baby) but enjoying it? Hell no. I think he was shrubbing his skin raw afterwards just to get rid of the scent and anything else of Morrigan while during I imagine him being --> all the time, trying not to breathe in order to avoid smelling her scent. xD Alistair is all but no type for a fling, sexy time for him isn't something casual and has to be associated with feelings. Sure he is a man and as said body took over at a point but that isn't equal with enjoying it. All the more I think he sees as as a yucky duty for reasons explained above.

However reading this thread gives me the impression that I'm one of the few persons who got the impression that Alistair and Morrigan can't stand each other for life. I mean it's pretty obvious they loathe each other ...and not every frikkin man and woman who were bantering/fighting are secretly in love with each other or want to get it on.  It happens very often that there is just hate. As simple as it is. 

This is always a part of a fandom I don't get (and seems to be a common disease/ follow a pattern of thought). Oooh look they are quarrelling, they must want each other sooo badly. They just don't know it yet.

Well....errr yeah. Exactly

About the "evil demon baby". I don't think it is necessarily evil, at least it wont be until Flemmeth/Morrigan uses the ritual to take over its body some time in the future. That is I assume the real reason behind Morrigan getting with "godchild" in the first place.