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[Stengahpolis]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

That's an orgy. Even Maric couldn't do all that in one night.

Luckily, time is a non-issue in Ferelden.

Modifié par Stengahpolis, 30 décembre 2009 - 04:42 .

[Tirigon]

Stengahpolis wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

That's an orgy. Even Maric couldn't do all that in one night.

Luckily, time is a non-issue in Ferelden.

Why do you assume that this would be a one-after-the other thing?
I had something else in mind.

[Kohaku]

Tirigon wrote...

Stengahpolis wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

That's an orgy. Even Maric couldn't do all that in one night.

Luckily, time is a non-issue in Ferelden.

Why do you assume that this would be a one-after-the other thing?
I had something else in mind.

Wow. I'm afraid to see how this is going to go down... but intrigued.

[Ulrik the Slayer]

I'm somewhat disappointed by the lack of Alistair going into fetal position on the bed as Morrigan leaves at the end of the cutscene, shivering and sucking his thumb.

Modifié par Ulrik the Slayer, 30 décembre 2009 - 01:40 .

[savagesparrow]

Tirigon wrote...

We are a caste and pious people! We dont want any prostitutes to get involved, right? That would be lewd and wicked. For the same reason I did not mention dog or any other animals. And, savagesparrow, I told you NOT to think about broodmother. You are a bad girl. You shall NOT be allowed to join.

Well the room might be a problem, that´s true. But then, people will be quite close at each other, so we would actually save room. Imagine we *didnt* celebrate. We had to find private, separated rooms for all the people mentioned. This way we always have the great hall.

Awwwww....but bad girls are more fun =(

And I second Ostigar! 

[Freckles04]

I think, throughout the game, that there's this attraction between Alistair and Morrigan that both despise themselves for. Especially on Alistair's part. I mean, Morrigan's walking around with most of her chest exposed, and he's a virgin, used to the non-rambunctious Chantry life. His mind would be constantly going *there*, even if he tried desperately for it not to. So he retreats behind snarky dialogue and tries to convince himself that there aren't any sparks there. Not that he would want anything from her other than a quick roll, but I'm sure that quick roll enters his mind more than once and he seriously doesn't like that.



I got a little more insight into this recently as I did a male human noble playthrough, romancing Morrigan. When Alistair has the "what do you think of our companions" conversation, he talks about your relationship with Morrigan, and there's an option to state that he's jealous. And strangely enough, he never actually denies being jealous.



So at the end, does he like the act with Morrigan? I think part of him does, yes. If he's in love with the Warden, I think he probably feels a huge amount of guilt before and after (for being with someone else, and then for *liking* it), but during the act itself, I have no doubt that his brain turns off.

[Sabriana]

He agreed quite quickly to the request, so yes, I do think he thought about it before, and I think he enjoyed it as well. Morrigan is not repulsive after all, she's a very good looking woman.

Other than that, I like Loghain's reaction and Morrigan's comeback to the PC's request best.



This thread is golden, btw. It's too funny.

[MOTpoetryION]

cybercat999



You cant blame us for that .Its just the maker didnt give us enough blood in our bodies to use both heads at the same time . : )

[amethyst_rose2009]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

cybercat999

You cant blame us for that .Its just the maker didnt give us enough blood in our bodies to use both heads at the same time . : )

OMG, I just spit out my cappuccino laughing so hard.  .........so that's my husband's problem, hmmm............  Men should be multi-tasking like women.  We can think of a dozen other things during sex (grocery lists, shopping for shoes, what to cook for dinner, would my hair look better if I cut it, pretending it's Alistair instead of my husband *hee hee, just joking honey*).

Modifié par amethyst_rose2009, 30 décembre 2009 - 02:47 .

[Creature 1]

Wrathra wrote...

Maybe he just closed his eyes and thought of England?

Wrong country, otherwise full of win. 

I thought of it first. 

[stillnotking]

He's a guy. Of course he enjoyed it.

This has been another edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

[Cybercat999]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

cybercat999

You cant blame us for that .Its just the maker didnt give us enough blood in our bodies to use both heads at the same time . : )

I actually said that women are no better when it comes to some things, in their own way. I prefer the way men think, its much less complicated.

[Recidiva]

The look on his face and his character makes me feel that if he really enjoyed it, he'd hate himself for doing so and want to scrub his skin off with lye.



Poor thing.



If he'd had a determined look on his face like "Okay, let's get this over with..." I'd have thought maybe he'd make the best of it, so to speak, but he didn't.



I don't think I'd have enjoyed sleeping with Morrigan. Her entirely un-sexy "'Tis cold in my tent" is the biggest turn off in the game. That she thinks so incredibly hot yet is so very, very bad at actually being hot...for me, anyway. I love her character. I find her entirely un-sexy though.



I guess I can just consider how unsexy she is to me, so I ascribe that to Alistair. And if she drugs him or hypnotizes him or is somehow deeply appealing to him, that's about as much fun as me being roofied at a frat party and walking out thinking that was so hot...



Just...ugh.



No, I don't think he enjoyed it voluntarily. His body might have. But I think that probably made it worse.

[amethyst_rose2009]

Recidiva wrote...

The look on his face and his character makes me feel that if he really enjoyed it, he'd hate himself for doing so and want to scrub his skin off with lye.

Poor thing.

If he'd had a determined look on his face like "Okay, let's get this over with..." I'd have thought maybe he'd make the best of it, so to speak, but he didn't.

I don't think I'd have enjoyed sleeping with Morrigan. Her entirely un-sexy "'Tis cold in my tent" is the biggest turn off in the game. That she thinks so incredibly hot yet is so very, very bad at actually being hot...for me, anyway. I love her character. I find her entirely un-sexy though.

I guess I can just consider how unsexy she is to me, so I ascribe that to Alistair. And if she drugs him or hypnotizes him or is somehow deeply appealing to him, that's about as much fun as me being roofied at a frat party and walking out thinking that was so hot...

Just...ugh.

No, I don't think he enjoyed it voluntarily. His body might have. But I think that probably made it worse.

Oooh, drugged, yes that's good.  Can we please pretend that Morrigan drugged him with some mildly poisonous swamp plants and that as soon as she blew out the candle he just passed out and missed the whole thing.  That would make me feel so much better about the whole thing.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Course he enjoyed it, he takes just after his father. Reason he liked being a Templar was because it meant he got to spend a lot of time near mages.



The whole thing with Morrigan is their way of flirting with one another and secretly behind the Warden's backs it is them two that have been doing the most spying whilst canoodling themselves.



Some people are so blind to the truth hehe

[Recidiva]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Oooh, drugged, yes that's good.  Can we please pretend that Morrigan drugged him with some mildly poisonous swamp plants and that as soon as she blew out the candle he just passed out and missed the whole thing.  That would make me feel so much better about the whole thing.

Yeah, let the "Grey Warden Stamina" take care of that while he's unconscious.

I do get that men and women can be completely emotionally detached from sex and deal with it on a friction basis.  Alistair's character doesn't strike me as such though.  I think it's a "macho" ideal to be always ready and willing for anything with a pulse, but I find in reality it's not true.  There are values and preferences, and not every hot woman is an ideal encounter sexually.  For me personally there are plenty of "hot men" that I wouldn't touch with a borrowed pole.  I think Alistair prefers the idealistic emotional attachment and I'm the same by nature.  I prefer intimacy over friction.

I know lots of men who genuinely feel the same, though they'll also say that the pressure's on to always be ready all the time, it's expected of a man to be a dog.  Once the heart and mind gets involved in the sex thing, it's hard to lowball yourself and go for just the sex with no attachment otherwise.  She lets you know that love and affection are illusions and that just makes her...tragically dumb.  And sleeping with the tragically dumb isn't...fulfilling.  It's Twinkie sex.  No nutritive value.

[amethyst_rose2009]

Recidiva wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Oooh, drugged, yes that's good.  Can we please pretend that Morrigan drugged him with some mildly poisonous swamp plants and that as soon as she blew out the candle he just passed out and missed the whole thing.  That would make me feel so much better about the whole thing.

Yeah, let the "Grey Warden Stamina" take care of that while he's unconscious.

Exactly

[Rivie]

Freckles04 wrote...

I think, throughout the game, that there's this attraction between Alistair and Morrigan that both despise themselves for. Especially on Alistair's part. I mean, Morrigan's walking around with most of her chest exposed, and he's a virgin, used to the non-rambunctious Chantry life. His mind would be constantly going *there*, even if he tried desperately for it not to. So he retreats behind snarky dialogue and tries to convince himself that there aren't any sparks there. Not that he would want anything from her other than a quick roll, but I'm sure that quick roll enters his mind more than once and he seriously doesn't like that.

I got a little more insight into this recently as I did a male human noble playthrough, romancing Morrigan. When Alistair has the "what do you think of our companions" conversation, he talks about your relationship with Morrigan, and there's an option to state that he's jealous. And strangely enough, he never actually denies being jealous.

So at the end, does he like the act with Morrigan? I think part of him does, yes. If he's in love with the Warden, I think he probably feels a huge amount of guilt before and after (for being with someone else, and then for *liking* it), but during the act itself, I have no doubt that his brain turns off.

Yeah, this is pretty much how I see it.  I'm sure there's some physical attraction, and yeah, after a bit your brain turns off anyway. But before and after, I do not think Al was a happy soul.

Poor guy. My PC gives him cuddles afterwards to make it better.

[Tirigon]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
pretending it's Alistair instead of my husband *hee hee, just joking honey*).

Hehe, I shall sell this information to every person who wants to force you into something so they can use it against you:P:P:P:P:P

[amethyst_rose2009]

Tirigon wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
pretending it's Alistair instead of my husband *hee hee, just joking honey*).

Hehe, I shall sell this information to every person who wants to force you into something so they can use it against you:P:P:P:P:P

Too late. My husband is already very much aware of my Alistair infatuation and teases me constantly.  It's so shameful.

[Tirigon]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
pretending it's Alistair instead of my husband *hee hee, just joking honey*).

Hehe, I shall sell this information to every person who wants to force you into something so they can use it against you:P:P:P:P:P

Too late. My husband is already very much aware of my Alistair infatuation and teases me constantly.  It's so shameful.

I´m not going to tell my customers. When they find out, I´ll already be on a nice little southern island, drinking cocktails and watching hot dancersB)

[Wrathra]

Creature 1 wrote...

Wrathra wrote...

Maybe he just closed his eyes and thought of England?

Wrong country, otherwise full of win. 

I thought of it first. 

Oh suuuurrreee... 

[Ubasti]

Recidiva wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

Oooh, drugged, yes that's good.  Can we please pretend that Morrigan drugged him with some mildly poisonous swamp plants and that as soon as she blew out the candle he just passed out and missed the whole thing.  That would make me feel so much better about the whole thing.

Yeah, let the "Grey Warden Stamina" take care of that while he's unconscious.

I do get that men and women can be completely emotionally detached from sex and deal with it on a friction basis.  Alistair's character doesn't strike me as such though.  I think it's a "macho" ideal to be always ready and willing for anything with a pulse, but I find in reality it's not true.  There are values and preferences, and not every hot woman is an ideal encounter sexually.  For me personally there are plenty of "hot men" that I wouldn't touch with a borrowed pole.  I think Alistair prefers the idealistic emotional attachment and I'm the same by nature.  I prefer intimacy over friction.

I know lots of men who genuinely feel the same, though they'll also say that the pressure's on to always be ready all the time, it's expected of a man to be a dog.  Once the heart and mind gets involved in the sex thing, it's hard to lowball yourself and go for just the sex with no attachment otherwise.  She lets you know that love and affection are illusions and that just makes her...tragically dumb.  And sleeping with the tragically dumb isn't...fulfilling.  It's Twinkie sex.  No nutritive value.

I much agree on this. Not all men want mere sex, and not all of them could even 'perform' in such a situation. Especially if the man is young, nervous and has not had much experience. Thus I myself tend to think that the ritual involved some sort of aphrodisiac to make poor Alistair function at all. And if he's in love with the female PC, well, there's the guilt part too.

Besides, where in the game does it state, that Morrigan would be experienced either? Sure, her mother is, and that's what is planned for her as well, but how often has Morrigan been with people at all? Other than watched them in animal form or stalked them or just plain observed them. She acts as if she'd be really experienced, but she says and acts a lot of things she obviously isn't. And women can be like that as much as men, you know.

I don't deny though that Alistair couldn't have enjoyed it. That one second that something probably happened.

Rhinna wrote...

*Alastair hitches up his drawers as he swaggers out of Morrigans room...seeing the PC (female) he puts on a pouty face and sighs heavily*

(female)PC:  "So...how was it?......"

Alastair:  "It was...what I had to do....to save us both"  *He hugs the female PC tightly and  then gives a wink, mouths "HOT!" and gives two thumbs up surreptiously to Zevran and Oghran who are standing in the corner making lewd hand motions behind the female PC's back*

Hmm, and why do people say that Zevran is sleezy?

[Freckles04]

Recidiva wrote...

I do get that men and women can be completely emotionally detached from sex and deal with it on a friction basis.  Alistair's character doesn't strike me as such though.  ...  I think Alistair prefers the idealistic emotional attachment and I'm the same by nature. 

I don't disagree with you in the slightest. But I do think that Alistair will do anything to save his love and his "brother", Riordan, from possibly dying. I've been through the "persuasion" discussion a few times now, always telling Al the truth about the ritual and not using the persuade option. Although he says at first that he can't go through with it, he does eventually tell you that if it means a chance of saving the PC and/or Riordan, he'll do it. He views it as his duty.

And, in that case, I think it's very much a "close your eyes and think of Ferelden" kind of situation.

I do wish there was a chance to talk to him about it afterwards, though, to get his true take on it.