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[Googleness]

 Please stop running all over the map! stay in a group.. cover each other... don't run Rambo style into ANYTHING which named with "Possesd" at the start of it's name.

For the love of god 3 games of wipe in a row. people getting cheap on their medigel and rockets 

[akimboDEEZ]

Your team must suck. as a vorcha i must to it in order to say alive. any other character im just support the other Rambo on the team. haven't lost against the collectors yet.

[Googleness]

akimboDEEZ you right! as a vorcha I too rushed ahead with flamer and reegar to strip shields but I had number of groups which got killed and they never learned to RUN AWAY from the Scion cluster 'nades.

Another issue is that if the entire enemy force is on point A of the map you should re-position to point B or C etc.. in order to get a better chance to sourvive but people just camp and get stomp'd. Bah...

[carnage17_]

Googleness wrote...

akimboDEEZ you right! as a vorcha I too rushed ahead with flamer and reegar to strip shields but I had number of groups which got killed and they never learned to RUN AWAY from the Scion cluster 'nades.

Another issue is that if the entire enemy force is on point A of the map you should re-position to point B or C etc.. in order to get a better chance to sourvive but people just camp and get stomp'd. Bah...

There is a thing called a tactical retreat!!  Fall back to a new position the faster ememies make it to u take them out don't just "hold the line" @ all cost or back into a corner I keep having to deal with this crap. 

[Beerfish]

You don't need to specify just collectors.

[Epique Phael767]

It's sad when the whole PUG is out of missiles by wave 5

[wotmaniac]

Fell ya bro. Or else,e veryone jsut scatters. then get flanked.

[DVS27t]

Googleness wrote...

 Please stop running all over the map! stay in a group.. cover each other... don't run Rambo style into ANYTHING which named with "Possesd" at the start of it's name.

For the love of god 3 games of wipe in a row. people getting cheap on their medigel and rockets 

You do realize that the collectors have "swarms" for a reason, right?  They will swarm you from 2-3 different spawns if you stay in the same place as that is their combat style. 

Please learn how to be successful against factions before commenting. 

[Beerfish]

Epique Phael767 wrote...

It's sad when the whole PUG is out of missiles by wave 5

Better that than a wipe on wave 2 or 3.

[PraetorianVIII]

DVS27t wrote...

Googleness wrote...

 Please stop running all over the map! stay in a group.. cover each other... don't run Rambo style into ANYTHING which named with "Possesd" at the start of it's name.

For the love of god 3 games of wipe in a row. people getting cheap on their medigel and rockets 

You do realize that the collectors have "swarms" for a reason, right?  They will swarm you from 2-3 different spawns if you stay in the same place as that is their combat style. 

Please learn how to be successful against factions before commenting. 

Staying in a group does not equal camping.  You can move as a group you know?

[Slojack]

I spent quite a few waves last night having to solo from having too many Leroy Jenkins on the team.

The real problem is people trying to play like they did before the patch and DLC. All the enemies are tougher and using new strategies. Ive gone back to using my Destroyer till I get a handle on their playbook.

[Googleness]

DVS27t wrote...


You do realize that the collectors have "swarms" for a reason, right?  They will swarm you from 2-3 different spawns if you stay in the same place as that is their combat style. 

Please learn how to be successful against factions before commenting. 

that was my point! the collectors have their own style of rushing and swarming and 1-shot kill stuff just by looking at you. people can't just camp and use sniper crap with them they need to move as a group and help each other out of the stun-lock and quick revive before the ninja execution.

I had a match now which I finnaly found a team that managed to reach wave 11... Lone survivor. Truly it was sad when the wasted their missiles on scions at wave 4 :X as a justicar with reave and DPS bubble I took them out pretty quick.

then on wave 11 they camped on the LZ instead of the other side of the map so the mobs will got to the other direction and it did take some OPS pack and medigel there to stay alive at the end with the praetorians and scion party... FB Reactor btw on silver.

EDIT:
And why in god's name the collector look at me and I'm dead? it's so fast you can't even hear them shoot! most of the time you can't even shoot from cover or something.

Modifié par Googleness, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:44 .

[Eric1975]

I totally haven't figured out how to play the collectors yet, but I was in a PUG last night and the most success we had was definitely staying in a group and staying on the move. We were in Vancouver and backing away from them in a counter-clockwise circle. It kept things more under control and kept the Collectors far away.

[VintageUtti]

Definitely don't stand within a 5 meter circle together against Collectors. Same area of the map yes, but otherwise a single Scion can kill all of you within 2 seconds.

[jaydubs67]

Epique Phael767 wrote...

It's sad when the whole PUG is out of missiles by wave 5

It also sucks when the whole PUG (except for me) is out of medigel by deployment on the LZ.  

Modifié par jaydubs67, 11 octobre 2012 - 06:07 .

[N7 ElusiveOne]

Eric1975 wrote...

I totally haven't figured out how to play the collectors yet, but I was in a PUG last night and the most success we had was definitely staying in a group and staying on the move. We were in Vancouver and backing away from them in a counter-clockwise circle. It kept things more under control and kept the Collectors far away.

This would happen more often if people used mics. I am also guilty of this, not having a mic I mean.

[llandwynwyn]

I can't stay with PUGs, they will get me killed. Especially when they hold the LZ.
I'll help them if I can, though.

[gigliani60]

I played collectors as a Volus, and all i did was buff the shields of the heavy hitters on my team, and i dealt with the mobs of troopers and abombinations. All i can say is keep backing off

[Nanostronghold]

I won't stay in a group at any cost. If they're doing stupid stuff i aint gonna tag along and end up getting caught up in their collateral damage. I can hold my own so i tend to stay away, split the enemy and half the danger, but remain near enough that i can come to the rescue as needed.

But there are plenty of situations where staying with your team is the worst thing you can do.

I think it's more situational and it's more a case of playing sensibly and not abandoning team mates (by that i mean being willing to come back and help) rather than Ramboing and ignoring what's happening with the rest of the team.

[GGW KillerTiger]

Googleness wrote...
For the love of god 3 games of wipe in a row. people getting cheap on their medigel and rockets 

Favorite part about this is people in pugs are so stupid that they refuse to use theirs and when you stop using yours because you ran out for that match/gave up on them you get kicked for not using yours. This community is so dumb sometimes .....

[UEG Donkey]

When I run my Slayer/Nova Guard I hate being with "the group" because I'll I'll do something like PD a phantom two-three times and attempt to BC the remaining three bars of health and then a PUG shoots her and I get downed because I have no shields. Sure I shouldn't have purged shields with a teammate near but that really cuts into the effectiveness of the class I love playing.

[Eric1975]

ElusiveOneN7 wrote...

Eric1975 wrote...

I totally haven't figured out how to play the collectors yet, but I was in a PUG last night and the most success we had was definitely staying in a group and staying on the move. We were in Vancouver and backing away from them in a counter-clockwise circle. It kept things more under control and kept the Collectors far away.

This would happen more often if people used mics. I am also guilty of this, not having a mic I mean.

Yes, it was one of those rare pugs where all of us were chatting on mics.

For those complaining about full-team wipes, I bet the medigel transmitter would be very helpful against Collectors right now while everyone's rag-dolling through their learning period.

[Grinch57]

Last night, playing in a pug, on Jade, with Collectors. Two Krogans, two Turians (I was playing a Havoc, the other was a standard TS). The two Krogan were having a blast the first few waves. Then they started dying. Then they started dying by Praetorian execution. Over and over.

Wave 10, they are both dead half way through the 1-4 enable objective. The other Turian and I complete it, but he dies in a mob, with no chance of me reviving him (two Scions, plus a Praetorian and the usual group of tag-along mooks, he might have been executed, but I was busy, so can't say for sure). I go into solo mode, whittle down the mooks and Scions, while staying away from the Praetorian.

Finally gets down to killing the Praetorian (plus one mook I couldn't find, but didn't want to let ambush me). I take small bits, hit, run, hit run. Then, one of my teammates comes up over mic telling me to hurry up. Pretty sure it was one of the Krogans. In any case, killed the Praetorian, found the last mook, killed it, on to wave 11. Where one of the two Krogans promptly got killed and I foolishly tried to revive him. Good news is the other Turian revived me and we got away with full extraction.

As far as I could tell, learning did not take place during that match (including me trying to foolishly revive someone I should have let go).

[Black Phantom]

If you're camping against the Collectors, you deserve to fail miserably.

This thread is bad and OP should feel bad.

[Eric1975]

Grinch57 wrote...

Then, one of my teammates comes up over mic telling me to hurry up.

Really?  People do this?!  I'd be all like, "Aren't you dead?  The dead don't talk." 

Well, I might sprinkle it with some flavor words...