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[HorriblePlajer]

They are the most frustrating enemy in the whole game. They act like husks - never take cover, but they are deadly at range and up close, this is not acceptable. You made me stop plays agains cerberus and I never really playd against geths unless it was unknow game. Unless you somehow make them bearable I, and I believe a lot of other players will avoid cerberus which leaves me with repares and collectors.

The very only character that can deal with them easly (of course my personal opinion) is Batarian Soldier with explosive balistic blade, because when it does explode it does stagger/stun them all so you can unload a pirahna in them. Really I hope you will do something about them in the upcomming balance changes or the player base will shrink soonish after the OMG-OMG-NEW-DLC-rush end.

And yes, this is another full-of-sorrow-and-grief thread. Don't **** about it but just join the sorrowville.

[Ashen One]

I don't have any issues with Dragoons, but it is hilarious watching my PUG squadmates get their collective asses handed to them by 1 or two Dragoons because they only know how to win when they can camp for the duration of the game.

[LukC]

I've said it in another thread, but let me quote myself

"Let me see... fast as Usain Bolt and jumps too, pretty much can't be staggered but can stagger your entire team to death, has armor that is so heavy they can't be grabbed but still can jump dodge and sprint! Can fire from distance, moves in packs (with phantoms!), and has no delay on attacks!

Yep, Bioware is trolling us

Seriously this unit is a bad joke, and needs some serious balancing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

[HorriblePlajer]

I do not camp, but running around the map (current White is nice example) and you just case three of them, sure you can take them down, unless there is phantom or another dragoon shooting at you, and if they manage to stunnlock you, you are as good as dead unless somehow you stagger them to get out fo there, but then usualy phantom instakill me. Not enjoyable.

[Daihannya]

Give it a week. Before complaining. You encountered a new a enemy with a different tactic. You then have to adapt to basically deal with the new enemy. I have adapted and find them quite easy, but my first couple of encounters was damm they were hard. If I can take them on with AA, they can't be that hard.

[Ashen One]

Not an issue to someone who plays extremely aggressively anyway (that is attacking the spawn containing 8 enemies while they're clustered together) but I can see how that would be annoying for someone who is not used to fighting multiple enemies at once.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 11 octobre 2012 - 07:20 .

[An English Gamer]

Fix the shield and healthgate bug, remove the bomber and Dragoon and I think this game will frustrate me a lot less...

[HorriblePlajer]

The hacking on gold is impossibru if happen on wave with them, they just jump in and rip everything, you can't stagger them unless you use some special powers like balistic blade or I believe proxmine, the scorpion does not work on them, and if you start running away to get some room to deal with them they starting to shoot at you. This is pure joke and I simply HATE cerberus now. I didn't knew cerberus rise ADHD kids into adepts and give them harder-than-pyro armor.

[Ashen One]

HorriblePlajer wrote...

The hacking on gold is impossibru if happen on wave with them, they just jump in and rip everything, you can't stagger them unless you use some special powers like balistic blade or I believe proxmine, the scorpion does not work on them, and if you start running away to get some room to deal with them they starting to shoot at you.

The Scorpion does work on them, just like every other Cerberus unit aside from Turrets, Atlases and Guardians while they have their shields... Your aim must be terribad if you can't stun them with an AoE projectile simply by shooting at the floor.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I keep thinking they're one of my teammates because they look like a phoenix, move as fast as we do, and always seems to be standing right next to me.

[HorriblePlajer]

Did you checked it on silver or gold? On silver scorpion does work on them, but not on gold. you need much more force to stagger enemies on gold.

Modifié par HorriblePlajer, 11 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .

[futurepixels]

The fact that they don't make any sound is ridiculous.

Modifié par futurepixels, 11 octobre 2012 - 07:33 .

[regack]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I keep thinking they're one of my teammates because they look like a phoenix, move as fast as we do, and always seems to be standing right next to me.

[Ashen One]

HorriblePlajer wrote...

Did you checked it on silver or gold? On silver scorpion does work on them, but not on gold. you need much more force to stagger enemies on gold.

I only play on gold/Platinum nowadays, and it stunlocks large crowds of them on both difficulties.

.... You just need better aim, I guess.

[PraetorianVIII]

Can't say I've had a problem with Dragoons today, and I was on most of the day trying to get one of of those short fat characters (no luck).

Phantom's are still a bigger pain than a Phoenix wannabe in an armoured suit.

[ReduktorGowna]

Dragons definitely needs nerfing. Usually I solo'd gold against cerb in 30-35 mins. Now it tooks me 40+ mins, and its alot harder.
There is no way to cover somewhere and have a few seconds of break for recharge shields, because of Dragons, Dragons everywhere.

[HorriblePlajer]

Thats interesing point of view. The group of phantoms + dragoons standing, I do shoot scorpion on thier legs, the phantoms do moonwalk but the dragoons decide to smash-abuse me. It happens a lots, maybe the scorpion shoots needs to be closer, I have no idea. I will do extensive testing tomorrow anyway.

[Ashen One]

Air Quotes wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Not an issue to someone who plays extremely aggressively anyway (that is attacking the spawn containing 8 enemies while they're clustered together) but I can see how that would be annoying for someone who is not used to fighting multiple enemies at once.

They are not hard to take down but they are just 1 more reason to pack a shotgun.

Or a CC weapon like the Scorpion.

They don't really affect someone who build characters/classes in such a way as to deal with all of the factions on all of the maps. Any one of my characters can CC, but people who don't know how to make good character builds would probably suffer.

Air Quotes wrote...

Dragoons are unfinished mess. I understand that they are new and shiny now and maybe kinda of exciting for  some people, but the novelty will soon wear off and you'll realize how cheap and dumb they are. 

I agree that it would be nice if they had a more complex AI, but I still think Cerberus is more fun to fight now than they were before.  If you're going to camp, you now have to be intelligent about it as opposed to following the generally accepted strategy of "camp in the back of the map behind the counters".

And on that note it's been a lot easier to find maps other than white/glacier in matchmaking now, so I think its for the better.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 11 octobre 2012 - 07:36 .

[Xaijin]

LukC wrote...

I've said it in another thread, but let me quote myself

"Let me see... fast as Usain Bolt and jumps too, pretty much can't be staggered but can stagger your entire team to death, has armor that is so heavy they can't be grabbed but still can jump dodge and sprint! Can fire from distance, moves in packs (with phantoms!), and has no delay on attacks!

Yep, Bioware is trolling us

Seriously this unit is a bad joke, and needs some serious balancing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

They can be staggered just fine, and take crazy melee damage. They're fine, and a hell of a lot less durable than Phantoms.

[known_hero]

Nerf them for silver and bronze. Leave them alone on gold and platinum.

[N7-RedFox]

Our Phoenix characters have red health and purple barriers. They are basically Dragoons that defected. It makes no sense for an Adept to have Armor health at all.

[ErrorTagUnknown]

Meh. First couple times I ran into them it was havoc.... now not too bad to deal with. Just keep them at a distance and prioritize them.

On top of looking just like a phoenix and moving as fast as we do, they play just like most phoenixes too..... charge in blindly and spam the heck out of smash. And they die just as stupidly.