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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I agree with this person's analysis, Mike1220.

[CaIIisto]

Mike1220 wrote...

@Bester76 if your just gonna be an ass don't even post I'm just stating my opinion what is so wrong with that? If you have nothing relevant to say than don't post it.

You seem to misunderstand how this works. 

You ask for an opinion and you're going to get one. 

What was your response? People who don't agree with you "don't see the big picture"? People see the picture just fine - but hey, that's just our opinion.

If you're not prepared for answers that don't conform to your's, then perhaps you'd best stay away from forums and the internet in general.

[Mike1220]

@drayfish thanks. I respect the people who don't like it but Im just voicing my opinion and wanted to see if anyone thought like I did and not be bashed for it lol

[hukbum]

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

Modifié par hukbum, 12 octobre 2012 - 12:10 .

[Mike1220]

@bester76 that still indicates my opinion so please don't try and make what I said sound like something it wasn't. No need to make yourself out to be the epitome of ****s.

[dreman9999]

Mr Massakka wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

No...

I just wanted an ending that's not 1-out-of-3 pre-defined and introduced by a ghost child with flawed logic. I don't really care how sad it is.

Then you point is that it's not about what the ending means.It's just about what you want.... The problem is...BW started ME's advertizement on this notion..



You were never promised a happy ending.

[wymm666]

AlexPorto111 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

I completely agree.

Sure, why not, convince youselves all that a stupendously bad ending was actually actually done with those exact intentions. Why not. But on the flip side, why not a good ending for the sake of you know, CHOICE?

[blueumi]

AlexPorto111 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

I completely agree.

shep has died in mass effect 2 and before mass effect 3 i thought the hero would die

the ending makes no sense and is both an insult and disrespectful to gaming as a medium 
remember casey hudson had the gaul to say  to video gamey way to insult games and those people who enjoy them for what they are

when i see a movie I watch for a different reason then why I play video games they are not one and the same which is why movies about games most of the time suck and why movie based games are so bad to play

[dreman9999]

hukbum wrote...

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

So in the end of ME3, everyone died or did not rebuild the galexy and live happy because of Shepards sacrific?

[CaIIisto]

Mike1220 wrote...

@bester76 that still indicates my opinion so please don't try and make what I said sound like something it wasn't. No need to make yourself out to be the epitome of ****s.

Mike, if that wasn't the intent, then I apologise.

The salient point, is that people understand the endings - we just don't like them. If you do, great.

[Taboo]

Oh no it's pretty bad. Using the previous installments as justification is not acceptable. Each game should be taken as a whole.

The endings, as they stand are terrible and really don't invoke the sense of wonder that the previous two did.

It's audibly laughable.

[MegaSovereign]

I don't think sacrifice was what it all boiled down to.

It had a lot to do with Shepard's ideology on how he confronts conflicts. So it's less about Paragon vs Renegade and more about Pragmatism vs Principle.

Is the collateral damage worth a galaxy forever free from on-going Reaper influence?

Is submission preferable to extinction? Should we actually change everyone on a molecular level to avoid a certain inevitability?

Is control really the means to survival?



We basically asked ourselves similarly structured questions with every big decision we've made throughout the series. But like I said, the ending throws in scenarios that don't really fit the usual Paragon/Renegade alignment.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 12 octobre 2012 - 12:18 .

[hukbum]

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

So in the end of ME3, everyone died or did not rebuild the galexy and live happy because of Shepards sacrific?

I can't chose how I want to live, I can't let beings be as they want to be. Was that possible in your game?

[drayfish]

Mike1220 wrot...

@drayfish thanks. I respect the people who don't like it but Im just voicing my opinion and wanted to see if anyone thought like I did and not be bashed for it lol

Of course.  Just because I did not care for something does not mean other people have no right to.


EDIT: My only issue is when people presume that those who hate the ending 'did not understand it' or 'wanted ice cream and ponies'.  I don't think you were doing either of those things, though, so all the best.

Modifié par drayfish, 12 octobre 2012 - 12:21 .

[dreman9999]

wymm666 wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

I completely agree.

Sure, why not, convince youselves all that a stupendously bad ending was actually actually done with those exact intentions. Why not. But on the flip side, why not a good ending for the sake of you know, CHOICE?

The orgianl ending have it problem but the new ending make this clear as day. The issue peoplehave with the ending is that they don't want to comrimise...In the end no mater what you choose at Hihg ems, outside of refuse, the races of the galexy sevive and rebuild...Which was your goal. The issue here is what you gave up for their servival. That makes it a bitter sweet ending. It has sad parts, it has happier parts. 

And you choice does matter on the issue of the fate of the galexy, you issue here is the fate of Shepard.

[Fades56]

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

So in the end of ME3, everyone died or did not rebuild the galexy and live happy because of Shepards sacrific?

Your kind of implying Shep had a way out, no sacrifice in the end just choosing the way you want to die, DAO had an Ok version of how a hero could sacrifice themselves for the betterment of everyone else, this only gives you different choices as to how you want to die.

[dreman9999]

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

So in the end of ME3, everyone died or did not rebuild the galexy and live happy because of Shepards sacrific?

I can't chose how I want to live, I can't let beings be as they want to be. Was that possible in your game?

Your issue is wih Shepards fate. You can let beings be as they want in control but the means you die as a human. You can live in destory, but that means sacrificing a race in high ems. That gernerally means the theme in the end is sacrific..
ME1 brought this up from the start..

[Seival]

Mike1220 wrote...

A man on Youtube posted this to counter what someone said about the ending being bad.
"Then you completely missed the ending. The point of the
ending is not to make you feel like you won everything, but to make you
understand the meaning of sacrifice. Yeah, decisions in ME1 or ME2 may
not seem like a huge impact in the end, but ME3 makes you remember
everything that you did, your experience, your struggles, your
victories. In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

I 100% agree with him. What do you guys think?

+1

[Foxhound2121]

Mike1220 wrote...

@bester76 that still indicates my opinion so please don't try and make what I said sound like something it wasn't. No need to make yourself out to be the epitome of ****s.

Seing as you support the original ending, it's like saying your speculations are better than other speculations. Once you realize that, these discussion are fairly worthless from both sides.

[Stalker]

dreman9999 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

No...

I just wanted an ending that's not 1-out-of-3 pre-defined and introduced by a ghost child with flawed logic. I don't really care how sad it is.

Then you point is that it's not about what the ending means.It's just about what you want.... The problem is...BW started ME's advertizement on this notion..



You were never promised a happy ending.

I don't see where you are coming from exactly.

I said my problems are...
- the ending doesn't reflect anything that you have done in the trilogy
- you get a pre-defined ending that everyone gets, only with different details
- it's introduced by a ghost child with flawed reasoning

That it's full of sacrifice is actually the only thing I liked about it.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 12 octobre 2012 - 12:26 .

[XxBrokenBonezxX]

No.

[dreman9999]

Fades56 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

A youtube user wrote...

In the end, you save the galaxy and let all beings be as they
have always been.
You pick how you want to live and be remembered by."

Not in the game I've played ...  maybe he's got a diffrent copy?


Edit: Fixed the quote.

So in the end of ME3, everyone died or did not rebuild the galexy and live happy because of Shepards sacrific?

Your kind of implying Shep had a way out, no sacrifice in the end just choosing the way you want to die, DAO had an Ok version of how a hero could sacrifice themselves for the betterment of everyone else, this only gives you different choices as to how you want to die.

Don'tbring DAO into this. We don't even know the results of the actions of the ending yet. For all we know it just means living long enoughto have something worse happen. It just a happy ending for now.

[Mcfly616]

Well I love the Extended Cut endings. But I do not agree with the OP because I definitely did feel as if I had "Won" lol (no matter what choice I made)


Though one of the points you made does explain why many people hate on the endings: there is sacrifice no matter how you slice it. Some people live in LaLa Land where there is no such thing as sacrifice lol

[wymm666]

dreman9999 wrote...

wymm666 wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Yes...That is exactly the point. Any one that says no just wants a rainbows happy ending.

I completely agree.

Sure, why not, convince youselves all that a stupendously bad ending was actually actually done with those exact intentions. Why not. But on the flip side, why not a good ending for the sake of you know, CHOICE?

The orgianl ending have it problem but the new ending make this clear as day. The issue peoplehave with the ending is that they don't want to comrimise...In the end no mater what you choose at Hihg ems, outside of refuse, the races of the galexy sevive and rebuild...Which was your goal. The issue here is what you gave up for their servival. That makes it a bitter sweet ending. It has sad parts, it has happier parts. 

And you choice does matter on the issue of the fate of the galexy, you issue here is the fate of Shepard.

No, when something like this happens, the "people" arent the ones with the problems. I was fully expecting that Shep would die in the end, but the lack of a alternative is mind boggling. Considering the numbers of plot holes, the complete lack of a possiblity that would ensure shep lives on, albeit a rainbow ending, is mind boggling.