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[Rpgfantasyplayer]

I like having the option of different armour types. I don't want all my PC's in clunky, chunky armour. If I am a rogue or even a mage I could see lighter and less armour due to needing to be able to move easier. If I am a tank, then yeah chunky and clunky are fine, but I still need to be able to move. A lot of the amour options to me just look like they would be very hard to move in and very taxing to wear. The point to this is to give us more options and if that includes showing more skin then I am fine with it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

Generic Universal Role-Playing System.

I always found the actual game mechanics to be clumsy, and character creation was a real pain in the ass, but it's survived for a long time through some rather lean years in the industry.

GURPS was terrific.

I also miss the old d6 system used by the original Star Wars RPG.  That worked so well at allowing customisation while penalising over-specialisation.  Great system.

[Leomerya12]

M25105 wrote...

Leomerya12 wrote...

Leomerya12 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Muscles in comic books are draw to demonstrate power, not be attratctive (as a general rule, at least).

I'm not sure how many people look at that picture of Batman and think 'oooh, that is sexy.' But I know many people look at a character like Allistair, who is more of a 'pretty' player and does not have super chiseled abs or bulging biceps, and think 'oh, he is hot!'

Just like most people look at professional body builders and don't see sex appeal, I believe most comic book readers see bulging muscles and only see a powerful character. It's hard to believe that 1960's stick-man Batman is actually capable of master-level martial arts, highly effective and dangerous Karpor (sp?) across city rooftops or taking a beating from other super-powered beings.

But I could be totally wrong about that.

Oh, I strongly disagree. Well, that's not true, I agree with half of what you said, with regard to strength, BUT...

There is a very defined homoeroticism in comics, and their heroes are often made to look muscular and attractive. I suppose most straight men only pick up on this subconsciously, but if you're gay, it's bright as day.

No rhyme intended.

(You mention Batman. Um, he lived as a "bachelor" with not 1, but 2 young, male proteges. That's pretty gay... I mean, homoerotic.)

Also, Allan, do you mean "irrelevant"? If so, +1 to you, too. Ha.

Oh, M25105, are you going to gouge your eyes out or something if you see the armor in-game? I mean, really, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON!

You're completely ignoring the fact that NPC males can wear such armour.

Possible (in which case I'd ABSOLUTELY agree with you), but unlikely. Hawke had plenty of unique armors. You're just being a tad paranoid... and British.

Modifié par Leomerya12, 07 novembre 2012 - 03:10 .

[Leomerya12]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Let's cut out the sociopolitical commentary from this discussion, please, and get back on topic.

Ooh, it's always weird when a BioWare agent chimes in; it reminds you you're being watched.

ps (since I now know you're watching): Sir Stan, remember the ME3/Disney Princesses/Race  "troll thread"? That's me!

Modifié par Leomerya12, 07 novembre 2012 - 03:04 .

[FINE HERE]

Um...

I like more choices, and sometimes I do wish there were more 'sexy' outfits or more 'sleek' armors and such, but... After reading so many requests for 'chainmail bikinis for all!' I'm not sure I'd support this...

I mean, can we keep it sexy and still be plausible?

[JCAP]

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Modifié par JCAP, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:08 .

[Direwolf0294]

Unless the character is some sort of Conanesque barbarian or 300 style Spartan I don't want to see any sort of revealing armour, especially revealing armour that's just a boob or stomach window, or, since you're talking about revealing male armour, a crotch window. I can handle a character in a loincloth, I can't handle them wearing some sort of Power Girl inspired getup.

[KainD]

JCAP wrote...



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Cool video, love it! 

[zevranarainais]

Russalka wrote...

Do people think women who want to make their character look attractive are automatically lesbians as well?

It would be nice to have a few sexy armour sets for any gender, as long as it is not all they get.

Same.

I'd just like a variety of armor. Some figure-flattering, some clunky, it doesn't really matter -- as long as there's some kind of choice available, I'll be over the moon.

[StarcloudSWG]

Kileyan wrote...

WHoa now, I have to call bull**** here. Once rpgs games became visual mediums like graphical games maybe the tiny chainmail bikinis became the norm, I couldn't care less.

In Pen and Paper games the tiny platemail female armor existed only on the cover art of modules or what not. In the game there was no such thing and no rules for it. Quite the opposite, everyone wore the same armor and it was big and bulky and DM's made sure you remembered it.

I'm getting tired of this whoe is me, whoe is me thing. D&D didn't enforce this, the rules didn't enforce this, fantasy literature didn't even enforce this, it was just the publishers cover art demands of the 70's and 80's that enforced this stigma, and far as I remember there was never a rule that said hot chicks in bikini's could have the same armor as hunky males in full armor.

Publishers wanted cover art that would attract males, the game rules inside and the stories didn't reflect the covers at all.

GURPS 3rd Edition, pub 1986. Sidebar option: Bulletproof Nudity. Attractive characters gain armor from +1 for a slightly risque showing of skin to +9 for full nudity.

It certainly was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the proliferation of scantily-clad women in fantasy and game book cover art, but saying it's 'bull****' and never appeared in print is incorrect.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 08 novembre 2012 - 02:10 .

[Archyyy]

If you want protection you wear armour which is bound to cover you. If you dont and prefer looking good you wear less armour. Easy as that. I usually prefer aesthetics over easier gameplay and have never had any problem choosing the good looking gear over the better one. Having both at the same time would just seem silly and immersion breaking.

[hawat333]

That is a carefully thought through desing idea/concept based on sophisticated psychological research into the theory debate of "Are players loving boobs?"

[Ryzaki]

aetherwyn wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Do people think women who want to make their character look attractive are automatically lesbians as well?

It would be nice to have a few sexy armour sets for any gender, as long as it is not all they get.

Same.

I'd just like a variety of armor. Some figure-flattering, some clunky, it doesn't really matter -- as long as there's some kind of choice available, I'll be over the moon.

Agreed. For some of my PCs walking around with their chest showing would make perfect sense. Others wouldn't go anywhere without being in full plate.