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[luper567]

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

AVPen wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Someone just told me she's a squadmate, was that at all confirmed?

I think these will answer your question (leaked on a French mass effect site):

Reposted for GREAT JUSTICE!

In that bottom picture, can you make out what Aria's fourth power is?  It looks like she has Reave, Lash, Carnage and... something.

Nyreen's power set is interesting; looks like she has Overload, Incinerate, Lift Grenade and Biotic Sphere.  It'll be nice to see the introduction of Biotic Sphere in SP; it'll be AWESOME in the Defend the Thanix Missles segment of Priority: Earth.

[ShadyKat]

Dissapointed that Nyreen and Aria can't be used for the rest of ME3. They could have gotten the Zaeed and Kasumi treatment.

[AVPen]

luper567 wrote...

In that bottom picture, can you make out what Aria's fourth power is?  It looks like she has Reave, Lash, Carnage and... something.

Nyreen's power set is interesting; looks like she has Overload, Incinerate, Lift Grenade and Biotic Sphere.  It'll be nice to see the introduction of Biotic Sphere in SP; it'll be AWESOME in the Defend the Thanix Missles segment of Priority: Earth.

According to the Gamespot demo, Aria has a new power called "Flare" - think of it as a HUGE biotic explosion that does a ton of damage and can affect armor, shields, and barriers.

Nyreen also has a new power that's sorta similar to Biotic Sphere called "Biotic Protector" - it creates a round shield around the caster that nullifies all damage, but at the expense of being able to move, shoot weapons, or use powers.

Modifié par AVPen, 08 novembre 2012 - 08:04 .

[Suspire]

Mims wrote...

Giving live birth does not necessarily mean breasts. There are plenty of animals that give birth to live young, but don't nurse. Sharks, snakes, ect.

To be honest its not a huge point of contention with me [they're not as bad as giant argonian boobs], but it is sort of lazy.

I suspect though, turians are becoming more 'human' than originally designed, thanks to Garrus being such a popular LI. If you look at his design from ME1-ME3, his hips have gotten a lot less angular and more round. There's even a concept art that indicates they might not have the same cowl shape from the ME1 concept art.

He went from wearing fairly light armor to super bulky heavy armor, that's normal... And the concept art never has to be followed to a T. They had to be able to shoot guns and all so they didn't make the turian proportions with the longer arms from the concept art, they gave them human proportions. Their plating also looks different.
Because of their mouths I don't think they even have any way to breastfeed. The thing is you can make aliens be anything, and you choose boobs? (no it's not the same shape as the males' chests) Like someone said it's clear that they're supposed to read like breasts regardless. The lamest part is that it implies people wouldn't know it's a chick if it didn't have boobs (or "something that resembles boobs"). And mama Vakarian and all the other turian females from the comics had no breasts, so another lame point is the great EAware consistancy.

[luper567]

AVPen wrote...

According to the Gamespot demo, Aria has a new power called "Flare" - think of it as a HUGE biotic explosion that does a ton of damage and can affect armor, shields, and barriers.

Nyreen also has a new power that's sorta similar to Biotic Sphere called "Biotic Protection" - it creates a round shield around the caster that nullifies all damage, but at the expense of being able to move, shoot weapons, or use powers.

So, sorta like the Phantom's power negating shield?

[Xerxes52]

AVPen wrote...

Those that wanna see (and sorta hear) Nyreen in action can watch a bit of her intro in the Omega demo that Gamespot played: 

Also, according to Mike in the video, Nyreen will NOT be a permanent squadmate after the DLC is complete... <_<

EDIT: And I was ninja'd about this news, apparently.  (though to be fair, you can hear more of the character in the video I posted)

@bolded: Well, that's a disappointment.


I'll probably wait and see if this goes on sale sometime next year then.

[bluebeam]

So, let me recap: not only Nyreen's face looks suspiciously human and looks like a mask over a husk's head, she also has breasts. Triple facepalm.

To make things better, there's no romance option with Aria, and, last but not least, we don't get to keep either of them as squadmate.

Great, I'm soooo happy.

[N7KnightSabre]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

You're not alone. It has pretty much already been established that they were not supposed to have boobs.

Hope she has a winning personality, at least.

When has it ever been canonically stated they're not supposed to have breasts? I thought it was just fan lore because they resembled dinosaurs/birds.

Turians have already been confirmed to give birth TO LIVE YOUNG, and they don't seem to be a cold blooded animal. This most likely means they give nutrition to their children by milk, hence, breasts.

Drell give birth to live young and aren't mammals.  Their young have teeth and can eat meat when their born.  Simply because a species gives birth to live young doesn't mean their mammals and can breast feed.

[Deadlysyns]

bt043 wrote...

maybe the body model with boobs was just a placeholder until they got done with the motion capture for the actual fem turian body? It kind of looks like a quarian body, and they can't very well render the cutscenes with just a floating head.

that looks like its pretty much done just needs a touch up in places so i am assuming you are wrong i mean that was totally part of the final product we will be getting 

[FenixWylde]

What do you xenophiles have against boobs?

[N7KnightSabre]

FenixWylde wrote...

What do you xenophiles have against boobs?

Their on a bird?

[ShadyKat]

I fail to see the problem with that LadyPaine.

[dreman9999]

LadyPaine wrote...

FenixWylde wrote...

What do you xenophiles have against boobs?

Their on a bird?

I can't really see to call those boobs? Are they boobs?

[Black_Vanguard]

bluebeam wrote...

So, let me recap: not only Nyreen's face looks suspiciously human and looks like a mask over a husk's head, she also has breasts. Triple facepalm.

To make things better, there's no romance option with Aria, and, last but not least, we don't get to keep either of them as squadmate.

Great, I'm soooo happy.

And here I was thinking this would be my big chance to break the first rule of Omega 

[Kanaris]

Humans are evolved from Chimps go look at a female chimp they also do not have breasts but we do so just because something is evolved from a species like a bird or lizard doesn't mean they won't adapt during that evolution to suit the situation.

[N7KnightSabre]

Kanaris wrote...

Humans are evolved from Chimps go look at a female chimp they also do not have breasts but we do so just because something is evolved from a species like a bird or lizard doesn't mean they won't adapt during that evolution to suit the situation.

Female chimps breast feed their young.

[Kanaris]

Yes but they don't have pronounced breasts like Human females do and Turians give live birth to their young unlike Salarians who lay eggs. Breast feeding is natural for any species/race who give live birth so the idea of a Turian female not having the capacity to breast feed her child is illogical.

Modifié par Kanaris, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:04 .

[N7KnightSabre]

You did see that Drell also give birth to live young but they have teeth at birth and can eat meat.

[Suspire]

FenixWylde wrote...

What do you xenophiles have against boobs?

I love boobs. But why does she need boobs if she's an alien analogous to birds/reptiles (ANALOGOUS, she does not come from birds or mammals or reptiles) and you could go with anything instead? Why do alien chicks need to have boobs? They didn't in the comics. For me consistancy is the biggest problem. And the chick = boobs mindset.

Also Kanaris needs to study biology or watch Discovery Channel.

Edit: basically if you don't get why some people think it's bad read this

Modifié par Suspire, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:28 .

[tanarri23]

From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I like her design. She's sleek. She's pretty. Her outfit is very stylish. If she was the first turian we ever saw, I'd be even more of a fangirl than seeing Nihlus and Saren made me. I like shiny space cats and I cannot lie.

But...slitted pupils? No protective plating covering the top of her head - the part of the body most exposed to the radiation of Palaven's sun? Human breasts? Really? As someone with a basic highschool-level knowledge of biology, I can only facepalm.

BTW, are there any videos where I can hear her voice clearly, without someone yapping over it?

EDIT:
Found video link right on this page. Her voice is awesome

Modifié par tanarri23, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[Kanaris]

Different DNA structures Human biology would not apply or be useful in such an instance

as for the voice none that I know of Sorry

Modifié par Kanaris, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[MoonEcho]

There are many non-mammalian species that are viviparous. So as it has been pointed out, live birth is not always an indicator of breastfeeding. The turian mouth has no indication of being adapted to suckling, so it gets harder to suppose that breastfeeding would be the the likely way that turian young would be fed. Bottom line - it takes more work to excuse and justify the presence of turian breasts than it does to suppose that they wouldn't have them at all. They definitely aren't there because it's logical for them to be there.

What this all boils down to is this was a conscious choice made by the design team. They had an opportunity to round out the turian species with the so-far absent sex. They could've done it in a way that compliments the other sex while staying consistent with the lore and the general characteristics of the race. And, boobs aside, it looks like they did a fair job of that.

But including breasts, whether they're literal mammaries or just curves coded to look that way, when breasts aren't terribly likely for turian kind - that's a choice that shows they're more worried about her appearance as a woman (by human standards) than as a well-concieved alien individual. It's one of a pile of unfortunate choices made in female character design that prioritizes conventional 'womaness' over everything else.

Modifié par MoonEcho, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:42 .

[Suspire]

@Kanaris: That's not what I meant, what I meant is that the things you said about breast feeding are all wrong.

Modifié par Suspire, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[tanarri23]

Kanaris wrote...

Different DNA structures Human biology would not apply or be useful in such an instance

as for the voice none that I know of Sorry

But human biology HAS been applied rather literally. And awkwardly. I suppose giving her human breasts to make her obviously female isn't as silly as, say, giving her high heels and lipstick and a pink bow on her head, but it's still inconsistent and nonsensical and at the very least unnecessary. So turian faces aren't exactly feminine or masculine in the human sense, and she doesn't resemble a human woman - but even so it's pretty obvious when you look at her face that she's a female (and that, IMO, is some great character design right there ) 

Modifié par tanarri23, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:56 .

[N7KnightSabre]

MoonEcho wrote...

There are many non-mammalian species that are viviparous. So as it has been pointed out, live birth is not always an indicator of breastfeeding. The turian mouth has no indication of being adapted to suckling, so it gets harder to suppose that breastfeeding would be the the likely way that turian young would be fed. Bottom line - it takes more work to excuse and justify the presence of turian breasts than it does to suppose that they wouldn't have them at all. They definitely aren't there because it's logical for them to be there.

What this all boils down to is this was a conscious choice made by the design team. They had an opportunity to round out the turian species with the so-far absent sex. They could've done it in a way that compliments the other sex while staying consistent with the lore and the general characteristics of the race. And, boobs aside, it looks like they did a fair job of that.

But including breasts, whether they're literal mammaries or just curves coded to look that way, when breasts aren't terribly likely for turian kind - that's a choice that shows they're more worried about her appearance as a woman (by human standards) than as a well-concieved alien individual. It's one of a pile of unfortunate choices made in female character design that prioritizes conventional 'womaness' over everything else.

Agreed.

Modifié par LadyPaine, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:59 .