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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

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Well you don't have to accuse us of being mindless sheep just because we like the game or because we weren't that upset about the ending

Well when the reaction to in depth analysis and thought out criticism is almost always "whiner, entitled whiner, nerd rage" or something of the sort, it's hard to see it as anything but people being drones.

As I said before, retaking omega even if you disregarded the endings is pointless.

Also stop derailing the thread just because you have nothing to contribute.




I am not derailing the thread bucko stop making up crap, and stop being so pretentious.  Your side tends to act pretentious

Your last... 1,2,3,4.....16 posts have had nothing to do with the Omega DLC, they have been an assortment of whining and spelling errors.

The topic is: Why are we retaking Omega?



Ooh a stalker, I am flattered.  But I don't need to explain myself to the likes of you and I certainly don't need you correcting my spelling.

I never corrected your spelling, I did point out the use of an incorrect word, and yet again you make another post with nothing to contribute to the thread.The topic isn't why is Humanoid_Typhoon more intelligent than KotorEffect3, this thread is about retaking Omega.

I'm almost certain this thread is soon to be locked, so please for the sake of your fellow forumites, post on topic.



Your avatar has better manners than you do and that is saying something.  Also you and I are not "fellow forumites".  Also keep showing your pretentiousness.

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We either go to Omega and find nothing of importance, which makes this DLC superfluous, or...
we go to Omega and find something important, which is pointless because it has no impact on the ending, or...
we go to Omega and find something that has an effect on the ending, in which case Bioware is selling a complete ending to the game in installments.


I think there's something to be said for the inherent value of good content even aside from any impacts on the ending, I can (and probably will) enjoy Omega, especially if it has nods to past games and characters, even if it doesn't change the endings.

That said, I agree that a consistent issue with all of this DLC is its ultimate lack of impact, if we're only doing things for a few hundred War Assets there doesn't seem to be a point, but if it *did* significantly change the ending content Bioware would be accused of retroactively modifying things or selling a "real" ending in pieces.

It's a bit of a lose-lose situation.

It's that way for any story DLC that happens before the ending, it is all essentially moot because more EMS isn't neccessary at all to get the "best" endings, lose-lose is the only possibility with the current endings.



Bioware DLCs in previous games have never been about the endings so why should they now?

It's too late in the night to explain how a conclussion works to you, but in laymans terms, the previous two games had the next installment to fall on, a luxury ME3 does not have.

also Kotor why is it so hard for you to post on topic, personal assaults and insults will get you nowhere.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:29 .


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Why are we taking back Omega?

1) Aria got us an army or three.....

2) Cerberus has control of it, Cerberus having control of anything is bad.

3) The Omega 4 relay that sends ships to the location of the collector "home world" is there.

4) Cerberus has control of it, Cerberus having control of anything is bad.

5) Most importantly, not helping Aria take back Omega could be taken and F***ing with Aria, and you don't F*** with Aria

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Podge 90 wrote...

We either go to Omega and find nothing of importance, which makes this DLC superfluous, or...
we go to Omega and find something important, which is pointless because it has no impact on the ending, or...
we go to Omega and find something that has an effect on the ending, in which case Bioware is selling a complete ending to the game in installments.


I think there's something to be said for the inherent value of good content even aside from any impacts on the ending, I can (and probably will) enjoy Omega, especially if it has nods to past games and characters, even if it doesn't change the endings.

That said, I agree that a consistent issue with all of this DLC is its ultimate lack of impact, if we're only doing things for a few hundred War Assets there doesn't seem to be a point, but if it *did* significantly change the ending content Bioware would be accused of retroactively modifying things or selling a "real" ending in pieces.

It's a bit of a lose-lose situation.

It's that way for any story DLC that happens before the ending, it is all essentially moot because more EMS isn't neccessary at all to get the "best" endings, lose-lose is the only possibility with the current endings.



Bioware DLCs in previous games have never been about the endings so why should they now?

It's too late in the night to explain how a conclussion works to you, but in laymans terms, the previous two games had the next installment to fall on, a luxury ME3 does not have.


Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Podge 90 wrote...

We either go to Omega and find nothing of importance, which makes this DLC superfluous, or...
we go to Omega and find something important, which is pointless because it has no impact on the ending, or...
we go to Omega and find something that has an effect on the ending, in which case Bioware is selling a complete ending to the game in installments.


I think there's something to be said for the inherent value of good content even aside from any impacts on the ending, I can (and probably will) enjoy Omega, especially if it has nods to past games and characters, even if it doesn't change the endings.

That said, I agree that a consistent issue with all of this DLC is its ultimate lack of impact, if we're only doing things for a few hundred War Assets there doesn't seem to be a point, but if it *did* significantly change the ending content Bioware would be accused of retroactively modifying things or selling a "real" ending in pieces.

It's a bit of a lose-lose situation.

It's that way for any story DLC that happens before the ending, it is all essentially moot because more EMS isn't neccessary at all to get the "best" endings, lose-lose is the only possibility with the current endings.



Bioware DLCs in previous games have never been about the endings so why should they now?

It's too late in the night to explain how a conclussion works to you, but in laymans terms, the previous two games had the next installment to fall on, a luxury ME3 does not have.

also Kotor why is it so hard for you to post on topic, personal assaults and insults will get you nowhere.


Oh for crying out loud I don't see any insults in asking you why DLC should effect the ending when it doesn't in other titles.

Also talking about insults is a little hypocritical coming from someone that melodramaticaly called me a terrible human being

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:33 .


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Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.

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Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

And "because money" is a copout.  Every developer every business is trying to make money.  Bioware has never been a charity (nor should they) don't know why people are expecting them to be now.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:38 .


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KotorEffect3 wrote...

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Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?

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why does this thread exist?

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?



Most games are the ending of some story.  Or are at least self contained stories (meaning they are not a to be continued later...)

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DanielsMind wrote...

why does this thread exist?


It's the bsn

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?



Most games are the ending of some story.  Or are at least self contained stories (meaning they are not a to be continued later...)

You didn't answer the question, what I said applies directly to the ME series.
If Halo 3 had billed itself as the epic conclussion to an epic trilogy where The Chief finally defeats The Covenant and saves The Earth, and at the end the status of Earth is largely unknown and you simply have a tea party with Truth, one would assume people would be greatly uspet.

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hey lets take back omega..........yawn.
50 extra points in war assets.........yawn.
lets fight MOAR cerberus lackys.............yawn.

the game sucks. whats the point?

seriously milking their fan base for more money with no real end product..... good job EA.

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DanielsMind wrote...

why does this thread exist?

To find answers to the OP's question, and for discussion, why do any threads exist?

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?



Most games are the ending of some story.  Or are at least self contained stories (meaning they are not a to be continued later...)

You didn't answer the question, what I said applies directly to the ME series.
If Halo 3 had billed itself as the epic conclussion to an epic trilogy where The Chief finally defeats The Covenant and saves The Earth, and at the end the status of Earth is largely unknown and you simply have a tea party with Truth, one would assume people would be greatly uspet.


Apparently you didn't notice this little thing called the EC that expanded upon the endings and do explain what happened to the civilizations of the galaxy and now you are derailing the topic as you have yet to show to me why ME 3 should be held to a different standard when other games don't have dlcs that effect their endings.

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hey lets take back omega..........yawn.
50 extra points in war assets.........yawn.
lets fight MOAR cerberus lackys.............yawn.

the game sucks. whats the point?

seriously milking their fan base for more money with no real end product..... good job EA.



So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?



Most games are the ending of some story.  Or are at least self contained stories (meaning they are not a to be continued later...)

You didn't answer the question, what I said applies directly to the ME series.
If Halo 3 had billed itself as the epic conclussion to an epic trilogy where The Chief finally defeats The Covenant and saves The Earth, and at the end the status of Earth is largely unknown and you simply have a tea party with Truth, one would assume people would be greatly uspet.


Apparently you didn't notice this little thing called the EC that expanded upon the endings and do explain what happened to the civilizations of the galaxy and now you are derailing the topic as you have yet to show to me why ME 3 should be held to a different standard when other games don't have dlcs that effect their endings.

I have told you why ME is held to a different standard, and this thread is about Omega, not the endings, if you want a discussion about the endings go make a thread about it. I have yet to download the EC, I don't need a montage to show me that BW wrote themselves into a corner.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Uh huh and then explain why DAO (a self contained game) has DLC that doesn't effect the ending.

I wouldn't know I'm not a Dragon Age player, this isn't the Dragon age forum, and probably this thing called money, also known as currency.



You can pick any number of games where the dlc doesn't effect the ending it doesn't even need to be restricted to bioware.  Why do you let other games off the hook for that but not ME 3?  Last I checked dawngard doesn't effect your fight with alduin in skyrim.

Are any of those games billed as being the "epic conclussion" to a trilogy?



Most games are the ending of some story.  Or are at least self contained stories (meaning they are not a to be continued later...)

You didn't answer the question, what I said applies directly to the ME series.
If Halo 3 had billed itself as the epic conclussion to an epic trilogy where The Chief finally defeats The Covenant and saves The Earth, and at the end the status of Earth is largely unknown and you simply have a tea party with Truth, one would assume people would be greatly uspet.


Apparently you didn't notice this little thing called the EC that expanded upon the endings and do explain what happened to the civilizations of the galaxy and now you are derailing the topic as you have yet to show to me why ME 3 should be held to a different standard when other games don't have dlcs that effect their endings.

I have told you why ME is held to a different standard, and this thread is about Omega, not the endings, if you want a discussion about the endings go make a thread about it. I have yet to download the EC, I don't need a montage to show me that BW wrote themselves into a corner.


You are the one demanding that omega change the rest of the game not me.  I expect Omega to be worth it for what it is on it's own merits.
  And no you just dodged the question about ME 3 being held to a different standard.  I gave you examples of other games with a definitive ending (meaning they don't have a to be continued...) and all you have said her derr ME 3 is end of trilogy

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:53 .


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KotorEffect3 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

hey lets take back omega..........yawn.
50 extra points in war assets.........yawn.
lets fight MOAR cerberus lackys.............yawn.

the game sucks. whats the point?

seriously milking their fan base for more money with no real end product..... good job EA.



So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)


i bet your mums really proud to have raised the village idiot.

this is a forum for opinions.  surely you would understand (or would you?) that opinions can be good, bad, or indifferent.  plus what the hell makes you more entitled than me?  prat.

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dorktainian wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

hey lets take back omega..........yawn.
50 extra points in war assets.........yawn.
lets fight MOAR cerberus lackys.............yawn.

the game sucks. whats the point?

seriously milking their fan base for more money with no real end product..... good job EA.



So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)


i bet your mums really proud to have raised the village idiot.

this is a forum for opinions.  surely you would understand (or would you?) that opinions can be good, bad, or indifferent.  plus what the hell makes you more entitled than me?  prat.


After this long you are just here to troll and insult the game, it's fans, and it's devs.  There is no reason to be posting in a forum for a game you hate several months after the fact.    So go to your reddit, 4chan, or rpgcodex they would like you in those places.

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So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)


"Our kind" drove the doctors out?

Those same doctors who went on record and said that their departure had nothing to do with us?

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oh and an answer to the original question. more money. that is all. this game (as i've said before - and as amazon acknowledged) was incomplete at release - but hey peeps will pay more money to finish an incomplete game making the real price for the complete game enormous.

thats my opinion. thats always been my opinion. you want to buy omega fair enough. it's your money. i acknowledge that. fair play. while you are doing that i'll buy some really great games with the money i'm not spending on dlc dross.

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You are the one demanding that omega change the rest of the game not me.  I expect Omega to be worth it for what it is on it's own merits.
  And no you just dodged the question about ME 3 being held to a different standard.  I gave you examples of other games with a definitive ending (meaning they don't have a to be continued...) and all you have said her derr ME 3 is end of trilogy

I only got the patience to say this one last time, ME isn't just "an" ending it was billed as "the" ending

I know this is a huge difference to someone like you but I'm sure if you read it enough times you will understand.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)


"Our kind" drove the doctors out?

Those same doctors who went on record and said that their departure had nothing to do with us?


They are not going to come out and say it.  They probably don't want to give you the satisfaction and I don't blame them.  You haters are trying to kill bioware.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

hey lets take back omega..........yawn.
50 extra points in war assets.........yawn.
lets fight MOAR cerberus lackys.............yawn.

the game sucks. whats the point?

seriously milking their fan base for more money with no real end product..... good job EA.



So what is your point in being here?  Your kind already drove the doctors away (something I bet you are actualy proud of in a sick twisted evil way)


i bet your mums really proud to have raised the village idiot.

this is a forum for opinions.  surely you would understand (or would you?) that opinions can be good, bad, or indifferent.  plus what the hell makes you more entitled than me?  prat.


After this long you are just here to troll and insult the game, it's fans, and it's devs.  There is no reason to be posting in a forum for a game you hate several months after the fact.    So go to your reddit, 4chan, or rpgcodex they would like you in those places.


oh sorry so your opinion is the ONLY opinion.

I really feel pity for you now.