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[LanceSolous13]

Aldora92 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I don't see why Alister or Morrigan wouldn't be. Morrigan is given no age timeframe, though, taking into account the fact that Flemeth was prepping Morrigan as her new body, I'd say she's no older that 23 at maximum.

Alister hadn't taken his Templar Vows and, considering that is considered a Coming of Age thing and the additional fact of Alister' immaturity (I do not mean this in a bad way), I would place him around 19-21

I would place Leliana around 21-22 in Leliana's Song and around 24-25 in Origins placing her around...33 by the end of DAII.

The Mage!Warden is also probably no older than 20-21 based on the fact that the Harrowing seems to be a coming of age thing and Jowan should have taken his harrowing long before the Warden did and he honestly sounds very young.

I un-installed my toolset several months ago so cannot say for sure, but I checked out several profiles of characters, and age was included... all of the PCs were at 20 and I think most of companions were at 20-24... I cannot confirm this myself as I said, I uninstalled the toolset... but if you have it, load up the character sheets and check yourself... (do not make a guess at age based on appearance, as I was shocked to find out that 2 years prior to Origins events, Bhelen was a child himself...)

Erm...Maybe the characte sheets aren't the most accurate things in the world? Considering the fact that the average player isn't supposed to see them, and also considering that Alister's is said to be 30 or something, I doubt they're absolutely correct.

I find it extremely hard to believe Alister is even close to 25 considering his attitude. This isn't a jab or hate on his chataracter as I do love his non-serious and humerous nature, but his lack of maturity and just general backstory doesn't add up to 25 for me.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Alistair being a 30 year old cynic was the plan for him originally.

[LanceSolous13]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Alistair being a 30 year old cynic was the plan for him originally.

I got that. But, it brings into question the accuracy of the character sheets.

[Aldora92]

They seemed pretty accurate to me... and seeing as I have not come across references to character ages in game (with the exception of shale) during my 20 something play throughs it seems the best source of information.

Alistair was only a warden 6 months when we met him, and as a noble (even the bastard of a king, nephew of 2 nobles) he would have been expected to sire children much younger then 30, even if he was a cloistered nun who liked wearing skirts and dancing for dark-spawn wearing a dress...

My personal opinion anyway...

[DarkDragon777]

The Old God Child should be canon.

[Leomerya12]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Considering the fact that DAII was a failure with fans and didn't sell as well as they had expected, They shouldn't bet on the idea of making a DAIV.

It would also be terrible writing to forget about Morrigan and Flemeth for two games. By then, no one will remember who they are. That's part of the issue with DAII; It effectivly put the entire series on pause for an entire game and really accomplished nothing the prior installment left behind for it.

+1

[Urazz]

I'm thinking the OGB is going to just be an optional party member in a future Dragon Age game that will be based on if you did the dark ritual with Morrigan or not.

[DarkDragon777]

Urazz wrote...

I'm thinking the OGB is going to just be an optional party member in a future Dragon Age game that will be based on if you did the dark ritual with Morrigan or not.

You think they're actually going to add consequences?  Sorry, that's not going to happen.

[unbentbuzzkill]

I love wild speculation it's so not confirmed.

[Vicious]

, do you think this child will be tainted or good?

Morally neutral. Morrigan is ridiculously pragmatic. Given his father could be A) Warden, Alistair, C) Loghain, he could be a very interesting person indeed.

But he won't be. Because he's an X factor that may or may not exist in half of people's playthroughs. Bioware cannot afford to waste their time on a HUGE OMG plotline on a character that doesn't exist for a lot of people.


So he is inconsequential. They proved this in Witch Hunt. Play it with someone who didn't do the ritual. Morrigan kindly informs the Warden that the child wasn't needed for her plans anyway, just a nice bonus basically.

Bioware already reamed anyone who thought the choice was important.

[Eveangaline]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

The Old God Child should be canon.

Why? It was a choice for a reason

[marshalleck]

Eveangaline wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

The Old God Child should be canon.

Why? It was a choice for a reason

Because a resurrected old god is Kind Of A Big Deal.

[Eveangaline]

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

The Old God Child should be canon.

Why? It was a choice for a reason

Because a resurrected old god is Kind Of A Big Deal.

If that was all that mattered, they would have made it mandatory instead of letting the player choose

[marshalleck]

Eveangaline wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

The Old God Child should be canon.

Why? It was a choice for a reason

Because a resurrected old god is Kind Of A Big Deal.

If that was all that mattered, they would have made it mandatory instead of letting the player choose

Like choosing to kill Leliana? She was made canon and all that's noteworthy about her is the Joan of Arc complex. 

She's back in everyone's game because the writers find her interesting. You don't think they could find some interest in a child with the soul of an ancient Tevinter dragon-god?

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:48 .

[Eveangaline]

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

The Old God Child should be canon.

Why? It was a choice for a reason

Because a resurrected old god is Kind Of A Big Deal.

If that was all that mattered, they would have made it mandatory instead of letting the player choose

Like choosing to kill Leliana? She was made canon and all that's noteworthy about her is the Joan of Arc complex. 

She's back in everyone's game because the writers find her interesting. You don't think they could find some interest in a child with the soul of an ancient Tevinter dragon-god?

Clearly not interesting enough to retcon peoples decisions about it, since they said they wouldn't

[marshalleck]

Eveangaline wrote...

Clearly not interesting enough to retcon peoples decisions about it, since they said they wouldn't

Bioware say many things that don't turn out to be true. 

[Eveangaline]

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Clearly not interesting enough to retcon peoples decisions about it, since they said they wouldn't

Bioware say many things that don't turn out to be true. 

Considering it would have to retcon your warden (or alistair or loghain, whoever died) alive again, that'd be a hell of a retcon

Modifié par Eveangaline, 14 octobre 2012 - 02:46 .

[marshalleck]

It wouldn't have to retcon my Warden, he jumped at the chance to shag the witch.

PS, they've already let you retcon your warden back to life. Precedent in my favor.

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 octobre 2012 - 02:48 .

[Androme]

I just wanna hear Claudia Blacks voice again, it makes me happy.

[deuce985]

Androme wrote...

I just wanna hear Claudia Blacks voice again, it makes me happy.

[Nimpe]

Just finished a playthrough of DA:O and Morrigan's epilogue I got was interesting. It says that rumors say that she reappeared in the court of the Empress of Orlais. You don't think Bioware had everything planned out since Origins, do you?

[marshalleck]

That slide has been known for some time. I'm sure the writers have had a general outline of what Morrigan and Flemeth are up to

[Aldora92]

About retcon... in the DA prim guide it says you can ****** oghren off enough that he fights you, you can then choose to kill him or not... yet he is a main character in awakenings...

you can choose to kill/abandon leliana in lothering or urn quest, yet she is important in DA2...

in Lelianas DLC she says something about choice being a luxury... the story is told but some details are not as they actually happened... she knows what happens at the end, but she cannot decide how she should tell it.

To me, this get me thinking that despite our choices in DA;O there are some things that will decided for us, no matter what we chose. Based on the fact that the story in all 2.5 games os far seems to ba a narative (based on duncans origin narrative and the epilogue suggesting it is being told from years after the events) every story has multiple versions... the who/what/where/why and when would only be known by those who were there... our choices could simply be a luxury, to make us feel like we are in control, when in fact they could simply have 1 cannon path that we are all forced to accept.

[unbentbuzzkill]

@Aldora92


if that is the case that would ****** me off to no end.