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[Aldora92]

Linksys17 wrote...

Why cant people just accept the ogb was jist a vehicle for both alistair/loghain/GW to survive

BEcause they could have put in a solution with no child... as a moral guy, I want to know all I can bout my child, and will not just roll over and think, "Hey, what the heck... I will just let an emotionally absent samp witch who spends most of her time as other species raise my child, I will not even wonder how he is doing"

[Bfler]

Maybe a dumb question, but isn't the Mabari also a Grey Warden? He drinks a bit blood of the darkspawn with every attack. With that Morrigan could also do the ritual with him.

[KENNY4753]

Bfler wrote...

Maybe a dumb question, but isn't the Mabari also a Grey Warden? He drinks a bit blood of the darkspawn with every attack. With that Morrigan could also do the ritual with him.

Not really because technically the joining is more than just darkspawn blood. There is more magic and lyrium involved 

[Bfler]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Maybe a dumb question, but isn't the Mabari also a Grey Warden? He drinks a bit blood of the darkspawn with every attack. With that Morrigan could also do the ritual with him.

Not really because technically the joining is more than just darkspawn blood. There is more magic and lyrium involved 

Hm, all I see in the games is, that they choose someone and let him drink the blood. If he survives, he is a Grey Warden.
I don't think, that f.e. Velanna has something to do with Lyrium.

Modifié par Bfler, 16 octobre 2012 - 08:16 .

[Sleepingviking]

My warden became King (shush) as well as impregnated Morrigan and followed her into the mirror and dissapeared.
Cant wait to see how that all turns out.
Amusing, at the very least i hope.
Morrigan as a royal concubine, HAH.

[KENNY4753]

Bfler wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Maybe a dumb question, but isn't the Mabari also a Grey Warden? He drinks a bit blood of the darkspawn with every attack. With that Morrigan could also do the ritual with him.

Not really because technically the joining is more than just darkspawn blood. There is more magic and lyrium involved 

Hm, all I see in the games is, that they choose someone and let him drink the blood. If he survives, he is a Grey Warden.

Alistair says in game that it involves lyrium and other stuff. Duncan says the circle mages have been preparing when you ask about the joining. Somebody else (maybe Riordan) says that you need archdemon blood.

plus this is on the DA wiki

"The ritual and the details about it are kept a strict secret by the Grey Wardens, because during the Joining, the recruits drink from a goblet containing a mixture of darkspawn blood, lyrium, and a drop of blood from an archdemon."

Modifié par KENNY4753, 16 octobre 2012 - 08:19 .

[Eveangaline]

Bfler wrote...

Aldora92 wrote...

I think due to Flemeths mysteriousness and the fact that she is an apostate who can turn into a dragon, the fact that she has an evil voice and laugh, people assume she is a villain.

It is my firm belief that she is a prophet, maybe even andraste who is said to have been a powerfull witch AND a cult thought Andraste was reborn into a Dragon... Andraste was burned alive (I am sure there is a dialog choice with Morrigan about how burning her alive would just make her angry) and if my theory is correct then she could have shapeshifted into something, or just used her magic to make it appear as if she died... do not forget that the tale of Maferath and Andraste is very similar to that of Conobar and Flemeth...

Flemeth speaks of fate and coincidences almost like a prophet would... she knows things are going to happen, and that people are destined for greatness, the only people who would know this are prophets...

If Flemeth is Andraste, with whose remains do we heal Eamon in Origins?

If you bring Oghren with you, he points out that those ashes are in a place infested with lyrium. It could have been anyones old ashes that were infused with magic

[Linksys17]

Aldora92 wrote...

Linksys17 wrote...

Why cant people just accept the ogb was jist a vehicle for both alistair/loghain/GW to survive

BEcause they could have put in a solution with no child... as a moral guy, I want to know all I can bout my child, and will not just roll over and think, "Hey, what the heck... I will just let an emotionally absent samp witch who spends most of her time as other species raise my child, I will not even wonder how he is doing"

True but o doubt bioware actually planned to explain and elaberate OGB signifigance
witch hunt made that very evident, and dont get me wrong Morrigan wa one of my favorite characters but i dont want to give Bioware too much credit

[Linksys17]

Also OGB isnt your child this is a video game

[LanceSolous13]

^He was talking about his character. This is an RPG. If someone uses 'I' inplace of their character, its perfectly acceptable. You get used to it while playing D&D. It gets tiring to say 'Kahleeanne casts 'Sphere of Flame' or 'Vallarn succedes in stealing the man's pants without him noticing' gets tiresome after awhile...

Linksys17 wrote...

Aldora92 wrote...

Linksys17 wrote...

Why cant people just accept the ogb was jist a vehicle for both alistair/loghain/GW to survive

BEcause they could have put in a solution with no child... as a moral guy, I want to know all I can bout my child, and will not just roll over and think, "Hey, what the heck... I will just let an emotionally absent samp witch who spends most of her time as other species raise my child, I will not even wonder how he is doing"

True but o doubt bioware actually planned to explain and elaberate OGB signifigance
witch hunt made that very evident, and dont get me wrong Morrigan wa one of my favorite characters but i dont want to give Bioware too much credit

Erm....If they never intended on elaborating on it, Why would they make an ENTIRE DLC dedicated to leaving us on a cliffhanger with this plot line? If they were going to do nothing with it, Why waste resources on a plot line you never plan on elaborating on? Its illogical to assume at the present moment that they will forget/drop this plotline.

If they aren't competent enough writers to continue the plotline, Then we have worse issues on our hands, such as the plot of the entire third game.

[Linksys17]

@ LanceSolous 13

Ummm....... for 800 ms points lol $$$$
Yes because Bioware totally hasnt dropped plot lines before
I am not questioning their writing as much as them making a dlc which didnt answer any questions on morrigans motivations or the OGB
I fully expect a half arsed cameo, a cheap illogical explanation and no significance to the plot

[Linksys17]

And btw the dlc didnt leave the cliffhanger the actual game did the dlc just had a brief cameo and didn't supply any more information than the questions you asked before the ritual in the main game

[Linksys17]

Just a shameless cash in to milk morrigan fans like you and me so get used to it, it will make the disappointment with the fact that Morrigan will have little to no importance to DA3 much easier

Modifié par Linksys17, 17 octobre 2012 - 10:37 .

[ColGali]

 If we've stepped into the mirror together please make Morrigan's return accordingly!! Thank you!

[mousestalker]

So Morrigan is going to make a return?

I didn't know she recycled...

[Aldora92]

Linksys17 wrote...

And btw the dlc didnt leave the cliffhanger the actual game did the dlc just had a brief cameo and didn't supply any more information than the questions you asked before the ritual in the main game

Tha game left us wondering where Morrigan ans wardens child had gone to, the DLC left us wondering what happened to the child, and where has morrigan brought us?

They were both cliffhangers, the DLC raised more questions then it answered, as it never answered anything...

[Rune-Chan]

LanceSolous13 wrote...



Until we have confirmation on DAIII ending with a cliffhanger or confirmation on a DAIV, We must assume that DAIII will close the series.

I think it'd be more accurate to say "If DA3 doesn't get a lot better reception than DA2 and ME3, then there won't be a DA4."

Bioware really need to do well with this one after the DA2 and ME3 controversies as well as the Old Republic not doing as well as they hoped (which I must admit I am surprised about, I'd have thought a Star Wars MMO would be a guaranteed success).

[marshalleck]

Machines Are Us wrote...

 (which I must admit I am surprised about, I'd have thought a Star Wars MMO would be a guaranteed success).

No MMO has ever been successful since WoW, only Rift has managed to barely limp along. TOR's failure was obvious and predictable, in fact on the TOR forums I predicted its decline almost to the month of going F2P. I don't know why publishers keep spending big money on these things. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 18 octobre 2012 - 12:38 .

[Catroi]

How can Morrigan return?
It would be an extremely complex task, what if you denied her the ritual? what if you killed her? what if you told her to go away? what if you followed her through the eluvian? So many possibilities...
Unless they work very VERY hard on this they cannot do her justice except for a small sidequest...

[rolson00]

i don't think she will her personal goal was to preserve the powers of an old god but flemeth or the god baby itself might make an appearance one day

Modifié par rolson00, 18 octobre 2012 - 01:30 .

[scootermcgaffin]

Catroi wrote...

How can Morrigan return?
It would be an extremely complex task, what if you denied her the ritual? what if you killed her? what if you told her to go away? what if you followed her through the eluvian? So many possibilities...
Unless they work very VERY hard on this they cannot do her justice except for a small sidequest...

1. Obviously it'll be a small subquest, that's the problem with save importing that no one who likes it wants to admit
2. She may only show up if you denied her the ritual. If you do that, and didn't romance her, the ending slide for Morrigan says that she (or, I guess "someone that matches her description") ends up in Orlais, advising the Empress

[Eshaye]

marshalleck wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

 (which I must admit I am surprised about, I'd have thought a Star Wars MMO would be a guaranteed success).

No MMO has ever been successful since WoW, only Rift has managed to barely limp along. TOR's failure was obvious and predictable, in fact on the TOR forums I predicted its decline almost to the month of going F2P. I don't know why publishers keep spending big money on these things. 

Clear indication that you know nothing of MMOs. And neither do big developpers. Which they've just realized what long time MMO players have killing themselves saying: "WoW is an anomaly, you will not be able to repeat that.." But no they just kept on trying to anyway, thinking that the MMO population will just magically grow. Truth is there is only so many of us and there's too many MMOs to choose from. 

Freemium and cheap entry points for these games is the only logical step to such a saturated market, the other option is not to make an MMO with such a huge budget that you can't possibly gain it back or make a healthy profit should the launch not go as expected. 

Small budgets with smaller launches with a long term vision is what we need now. Saying that all MMOs are failures because they have not met a similar success to WoW is also very misleading. MOST MMOs before and after that game didn't.... 

Modifié par Eshaye, 18 octobre 2012 - 02:34 .

[marshalleck]

Don't kid yourself, EA's goal and intent was WoW-like success. That's why they authorized what's reputed to be the heftiest development budget for any game of all time. And it was a failure. Publishers keep cranking those things out chasing the elusive dream that they will create the next big thing. At any rate, it's off topic.

And yes, I'm aware of the glut of small-time asian F2P MMOs (Perfect World games, for example) that seem to come out on a monthly basis as well. The only way they turn a profit is through minimal development cost offset by the ingame cash shop.

Modifié par marshalleck, 18 octobre 2012 - 02:52 .

[Massa FX]

I loved Morrigan and Flemeth. But please... I do not support pimping my LI out to other women. No more of that, OK?

[Massa FX]

@Machines Are Us   SYSTEM SHOCK! Love your pic!