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LilLino

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You chose refuse because you can't handle a choice. You chose refuse so all the sacrifices people made count for nothing. You chose refuse so you can fail everyone who put faith in you, for misguided idealistic reasons.
You chose refuse because you are dumb.

Modifié par LilLino, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:35 .


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babachewie

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You choose refuse because you didnt pay attention to the story. Refuse is the dumbest choice in the game.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

You chose refuse because you don't like the endings.


Yes because it feels to much like doing what the reapers want or having them hand you your choices and everyone who worked with the reapers haven't come out for it in the better before

Also I wish the ending in my signature was the offical ending ^__-


Someone didn't pay attention to what was going on at the end.


no its from paying too much attention is what has caused so much pain love


Based on what you said, you didn't pay attention.

Modifié par Obeded the 2nd, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:34 .


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ATiBotka

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LiarasShield wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

You chose refuse because you don't like the endings.


Yes because it feels to much like doing what the reapers want or having them hand you your choices and everyone who worked with the reapers haven't come out for it in the better before


The Catalyst want's to solve the synthetic-organic problem. Destroy and Control doesn't solve it.

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LilLino wrote...

You chose refuse because you can't handle a choice. You chose refuse so all the sacrifices people made count for nothing. You chose refuse so you can fail everyone who put faith in you for misguided idealistic reasons.
You chose refuse because you are dumb.



babachewie wrote...

You choose refuse because you didnt pay attention to the story. Refuse is the dumbest choice in the game.


Dumb. Seriously. That's the best counter-argument you have to offer?

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ATiBotka wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

You chose refuse because you don't like the endings.


Yes because it feels to much like doing what the reapers want or having them hand you your choices and everyone who worked with the reapers haven't come out for it in the better before


The Catalyst want's to solve the synthetic-organic problem. Destroy and Control doesn't solve it.


Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.

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Bioware is not going to add a personal ending. And i rather SAVE the Galaxy even if the conflict is stupid.

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ATiBotka

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Ratimir wrote...

Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.


It maybe exists. Maybe not. We don't know.

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ATiBotka wrote...

Ratimir wrote...

Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.


It maybe exists. Maybe not. We don't know.


Then I propose a deal.

When :sick:child can prove either logically or empirically that there is a problem, Shepard will help him choose a war crime.
When Shepard can prove either logically or empirically that there is not a problem, :sick:child will fly the Reapers into the nearest black hole.
Until then, the Reapers will stop their idiotic campaign of genocide based on a 'maybe', and wait patiently in standby mode.

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I chose Refuse because it's the most thematically and narratively coherent ending and, without metagaming, the most rational choice to make when being propositioned by the self-proclaimed Reaper leader.

Modifié par grey_wind, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:50 .


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grey_wind wrote...

I chose Refuse because it's the most thematically and narratively coherent ending and, without metagaming, the most rational choice to make when being propositioned by the self-proclaimed Reaper leader.


I knew that conventional victory is impossible, without metagaming.

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LiarasShield

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Look the leviathans thought other organics were going to cause their own destruction by making synthetics yet the leviathans built a synthetic ai in order to preserve life if you thought synthetics would destroy organics then why would you make a ai to preserve organic life if you knew synthetics would cause the destruction of it

And no the machine can even be more flawed the being who made it and no the leviathans were wrong by trusting a synthetic to preserve life when they thought synthetics would destroy it

The Illusive man

Saren

The doctor from arrival they all believe in the reapers or ended up siding with the reapers and all it did was make them betray us or try to destroy us which ultimately led to their own destruction.

Modifié par LiarasShield, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:53 .


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ATiBotka wrote...

Ratimir wrote...

Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.


It maybe exists. Maybe not. We don't know.

There is no problem. And reaping is not a solution to anything. Even from crazy entity's point of view.

Modifié par Maxster_, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:56 .


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grey_wind wrote...

I chose Refuse because it's the most thematically and narratively coherent ending and, without metagaming, the most rational choice to make when being propositioned by the self-proclaimed Reaper leader.

Narrative completely incoherent long before choices.

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Maxster_ wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Ratimir wrote...

Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.


It maybe exists. Maybe not. We don't know.

There is no problem.




How do you know? The Catalyst had millions of years to study this problem.

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Maxster_

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ATiBotka wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Ratimir wrote...

Neither does synthesis. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist.


It maybe exists. Maybe not. We don't know.

There is no problem.




How do you know? The Catalyst had millions of years to study this problem.


Because it is appeal to probability.
And all organics were never wiped out.

Modifié par Maxster_, 13 octobre 2012 - 06:01 .


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LiarasShield

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The Catalyst is probably not even sentient but yes their creators made the mistake because they thought synthetics would destroy organics so they made a synthetic ai in order to preserve life

If the creator is flawed then the creation may be as well and siding with the reapers have never been good before so why do you think it would be good now?

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i pick refuse, then turn the game off.

SO BE *click*

then i headcanon an ending that hudson and walters could only dream of.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 13 octobre 2012 - 06:04 .


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Maxster_

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LiarasShield wrote...

The Catalyst is probably not even sentient but yes their creators made the mistake because they thought synthetics would destroy organics so they made a synthetic ai in order to preserve life

If the creator is flawed then the creation may be as well and siding with the reapers have never been good before so why do you think it would be good now?

If he is not sentient, then leviathans programmed him to wipe out themselves and their minions.
What makes them... well, crazy and retarded.

Modifié par Maxster_, 13 octobre 2012 - 06:06 .


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Still dont see why refuse seemed like a better choice than Destroy, whent he whole series we've been trying to find a way to stop the reapers and the crucible gives us our "out" so to speak.

Its not like we're destroying the reapers at their behest, they just cant do anything to stop us and try to appeal to us to keep them whole.

So I say bump that, super weapon activate!

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Cainne Chapel

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Well when does an AI truly become sentient? We will never know until we program one ourselves I reckon

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Aye, refuse is the only choice for those unwilling to role-play a war criminal.

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Cainne Chapel wrote...

Still dont see why refuse seemed like a better choice than Destroy, whent he whole series we've been trying to find a way to stop the reapers and the crucible gives us our "out" so to speak.

Its not like we're destroying the reapers at their behest, they just cant do anything to stop us and try to appeal to us to keep them whole.

So I say bump that, super weapon activate!

They let us destroy them, after we surrendered to their crazy views and overwhelming force.
This is certainly not a heroic victory.

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LiarasShield

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Cainne Chapel wrote...

Still dont see why refuse seemed like a better choice than Destroy, whent he whole series we've been trying to find a way to stop the reapers and the crucible gives us our "out" so to speak.

Its not like we're destroying the reapers at their behest, they just cant do anything to stop us and try to appeal to us to keep them whole.

So I say bump that, super weapon activate!


But the catalyst is required just in order to use the crucible the reaper collective tells you what your choices are or should be no I'm sorry trusting the reapers haven't worked out for anybody hell even the creators thought synthetics would destroy organics and see what they've done sweet christmas...

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Maxster_ wrote...
This is certainly not a heroic victory.

There never is in war.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 13 octobre 2012 - 06:12 .