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Seival wrote...

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There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.



His CPU was at 100% trying  to override security on the citadel quickly so the transfer of power could be smoother when Saren completed his task.


Using your own logic, I can say that Harbinger's CPU was at 100% trying to destroy ground team which ran to the beam. So, Harbinger didn't even notice the Normandy at all.

Yeah, he is retarded then.
He could just one-shot all that offensive, and fly away.
Or he could just turn off the beam, which are turned off and on in the cutscenes, btw.

Or maybe he just prefers fair play? It is no fun when you can win with one shot. A very short game, boring.

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Who told you that Harbinger sees someone on the ground? It was informed by the ground forces that large group of enemies is trying to reach the beam from certain direction. It landed 6km away from the beam and started to shoot the ground in front of the beam randomly, using all frontal lasers.

Reaper capital ships can't "see" too small targets. That's why they use ground forces themselves. And Harbinger clearly wasn't ready for Normandy appeared from the chaos of the battle. Most likely, Harbinger noticed SR2 when it already started to fly away.


And the fact that Harbinger basically shot everything running towards the beam with good aim except for Shepard kinda says he can see

And Sovereign from ME1 saying "You are not Saren" to Shepard basically says every Reaper can see


There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.


The first line /facepalm because your logic

Second, You do know that if Sovereign tried to shoot Shepard himself he would have damaged the Citadel and probably ruin his own plan

They can see, stop with the broken insane logic


Damage the Citadel? Why didn't Sovereign feared to damage the Citadel while shooting Aliance ships then? The ships and Citadel's wards were all around. And Sovereign lasers pierce Aliance ships like a paper.

I think it's clear, that Citadel's internal structure can't be damaged critically by one warship like Sovereign.

Any other counter-arguments? :)


And you do know that Shepard was in the area that Sovereign needed Saren to take control of, so why would Sovereign try to shoot Shepard and ruin it?


Several Sovereign shots wouldn't ruin anything, but Shepard herself.

Even Sovereign's explosion didn't damage Citadel Tower critically.

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Seival wrote...

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Seival wrote...

There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.



His CPU was at 100% trying  to override security on the citadel quickly so the transfer of power could be smoother when Saren completed his task.


Using your own logic, I can say that Harbinger's CPU was at 100% trying to destroy ground team which ran to the beam. So, Harbinger didn't even notice the Normandy at all.


I was just trolling like you.
The Catalyst's CPU was at 100% so he couldn't shut off the beam.

But seriously nothing indicates Sovereign even knew that anyone came through the conduit and was trying to stop Saren.
Why would he be looking somewhere he has no suspicion over.
And his CPU was probably high, not that it makes a difference.

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I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 

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It's probably just bad writing though, Bioware is good at that.
Smudboy is right, but he is only echoing what everyone already knows that it created more plot holes than it fixed.

Modifié par A Bethesda Fan, 14 octobre 2012 - 03:38 .


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Maxster_ wrote...

Seival wrote...

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Seival wrote...

There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.



His CPU was at 100% trying  to override security on the citadel quickly so the transfer of power could be smoother when Saren completed his task.


Using your own logic, I can say that Harbinger's CPU was at 100% trying to destroy ground team which ran to the beam. So, Harbinger didn't even notice the Normandy at all.

Yeah, he is retarded then.
He could just one-shot all that offensive, and fly away.
Or he could just turn off the beam, which are turned off and on in the cutscenes, btw.

Or maybe he just prefers fair play? It is no fun when you can win with one shot. A very short game, boring.


Maybe turning off the beam is too time-consuming process? I think it is.

Maybe "beam node" has shields comparable to Reaper Warships' shields, and so can't be destroyed by a Reaper fast enough? I think the node has such shields. And you can't prove otherwise.

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Grubas wrote...

Seival wrote...

I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 




"Disliking" and "hating" are different things.

I have friends, who disliked the endings in general, but still chosen their favorite ending, and supported BioWare's work.

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Look at this: http://www.youtube.c...CMVQP0I4#t=4m02

Harbinger performed a precision shot on a Mako, then a soldier in quick succession.

Please explain.

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Seival wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Seival wrote...

I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 




"Disliking" and "hating" are different things.

I have friends, who disliked the endings in general, but still chosen their favorite ending, and supported BioWare's work.


I chose my favorite ending and I supported Bioware's work on certain things.

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Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Look at this: http://www.youtube.c...CMVQP0I4#t=4m02

Harbinger performed a precision shot on a Mako, then a soldier in quick succession.

Please explain.


Those are not precision shots. Many lucky random shots may look as "precision shots", but they are not actually "precision shots". I think it's clear that Harbinger is rushing forward and has no time to make precision shots.

Modifié par Seival, 14 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .


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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Seival wrote...

I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 




"Disliking" and "hating" are different things.

I have friends, who disliked the endings in general, but still chosen their favorite ending, and supported BioWare's work.


I chose my favorite ending and I supported Bioware's work on certain things.


Nice to hear. This means that you are not a hater :)

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Oh enough for the "Who's BW's biggest fan?"

At the end of the day, you are just a customer like any other, well, unless you are a shareholder

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Seival wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Look at this: http://www.youtube.c...CMVQP0I4#t=4m02

Harbinger performed a precision shot on a Mako, then a soldier in quick succession.

Please explain.


Those are not precision shots. Many lucky random shots may look as "precision shots", but they are not actually "precision shots". I think it's clear that Harbinger in rushing forward and has no time to make precision shots.


He initiated the beam twice, within 2 seconds, and struck down two small, fast moving targets. How is that not a precision shot?

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Seival wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Seival wrote...

I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 




"Disliking" and "hating" are different things.

I have friends, who disliked the endings in general, but still chosen their favorite ending, and supported BioWare's work.


I chose my favorite ending and I supported Bioware's work on certain things.


Nice to hear. This means that you are not a hater :)


So you're critera for being  ahter is not supporting Bioware's work and not choosing a favourite ending, so everyone who hasn't played the game must be a hater right?

Hahaha, you're so silly.

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Seival wrote...

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Seival wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Seival wrote...

I'm supporting BioWare's work. This is not trolling. Only haters are trolling on BSN.


Many dislike the ending, that dosnt mean they hate bioware or their work. Do you say people should not say why they dislike it, like pointing out obvious flaws? 




"Disliking" and "hating" are different things.

I have friends, who disliked the endings in general, but still chosen their favorite ending, and supported BioWare's work.


I chose my favorite ending and I supported Bioware's work on certain things.


Nice to hear. This means that you are not a hater :)


Thanks.
The endings still suck and I consider them to be extremely lazy.
Overall this game has been terrible for me.

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Seival wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Seival wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival wrote...

There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.



His CPU was at 100% trying  to override security on the citadel quickly so the transfer of power could be smoother when Saren completed his task.


Using your own logic, I can say that Harbinger's CPU was at 100% trying to destroy ground team which ran to the beam. So, Harbinger didn't even notice the Normandy at all.

Yeah, he is retarded then.
He could just one-shot all that offensive, and fly away.
Or he could just turn off the beam, which are turned off and on in the cutscenes, btw.

Or maybe he just prefers fair play? It is no fun when you can win with one shot. A very short game, boring.


Maybe turning off the beam is too time-consuming process? I think it is.

Maybe "beam node" has shields comparable to Reaper Warships' shields, and so can't be destroyed by a Reaper fast enough? I think the node has such shields. And you can't prove otherwise.

You are saying this, as if i'm trying to prove something to a troll.
I just demonstrated your inability to debate to everyone on this forum.:wizard:

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Maxster_ wrote...

Seival wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Seival wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival wrote...

There was no "good aim", there were many lucky random shots.

...Sovereign can see small targets? Really? Then why didn't it shoot Shepard on the Citadel in ME1? Shepard was several hundred meters near the Sovereign. But somehow, Sovereign keeps using ground forces to deal with Shepard's squad.



His CPU was at 100% trying  to override security on the citadel quickly so the transfer of power could be smoother when Saren completed his task.


Using your own logic, I can say that Harbinger's CPU was at 100% trying to destroy ground team which ran to the beam. So, Harbinger didn't even notice the Normandy at all.

Yeah, he is retarded then.
He could just one-shot all that offensive, and fly away.
Or he could just turn off the beam, which are turned off and on in the cutscenes, btw.

Or maybe he just prefers fair play? It is no fun when you can win with one shot. A very short game, boring.


Maybe turning off the beam is too time-consuming process? I think it is.

Maybe "beam node" has shields comparable to Reaper Warships' shields, and so can't be destroyed by a Reaper fast enough? I think the node has such shields. And you can't prove otherwise.

You are saying this, as if i'm trying to prove something to a troll.
I just demonstrated your inability to debate to everyone on this forum.:wizard:


Is it time to just ignore Sieval until he/she goes away? I mean, it's just supposition at this point.

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I personally believe the reason harbinger did not shot the Normandy is because he did not want to kill Shepard. He did not shot it on purpose.

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Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Seival wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Look at this: http://www.youtube.c...CMVQP0I4#t=4m02

Harbinger performed a precision shot on a Mako, then a soldier in quick succession.

Please explain.


Those are not precision shots. Many lucky random shots may look as "precision shots", but they are not actually "precision shots". I think it's clear that Harbinger in rushing forward and has no time to make precision shots.


He initiated the beam twice, within 2 seconds, and struck down two small, fast moving targets. How is that not a precision shot?


Easily - the shots were random. Why? because Reaper warships warm-up their lasers for powerful precision shots. We see that in almost each cut-scene with Reapers shooting. Looks like their lasers require a lot of seconds to be aimed perfectly.

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Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Is it time to just ignore Sieval until he/she goes away? I mean, it's just supposition at this point.

I see no point to debate with an obvious troll. It will leave, eventually. :police:

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Seival wrote...

Easily - the shots were random. Why? because Reaper warships warm-up their lasers for powerful precision shots. We see that in almost each cut-scene with Reapers shooting. Looks like their lasers require a lot of seconds to be aimed perfectly.


Aside from "nowhere", where in the unholy hell are you taking your information from? 

They need to warm up their shots? Is that why the Destroyer on Earth doesn't do that? Is that why Harbinger doesn't do that?

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Seival is not a troll.
He use to be a reasonable and logical person but the horrors of Mass effect 3 sent him into state of denial and naive views.

Modifié par A Bethesda Fan, 14 octobre 2012 - 04:03 .


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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival is not a troll.
He use to be a reasonable and logical person but the horrors of Mass effect 3 sent him into state of denial and naive views.


Hahaha.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Seival is not a troll.
He use to be a reasonable and logical person but the horrors of Mass effect 3 sent him into state of denial and naive views.

Naive? He just keeps inventing things up, to a point of an utter stupidity and contradiction with a game. That's not what naive means, i'm afraid. :police:

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Well once I took out my emotional responses to the characters I grew to love Smudboy's vids do bring up good points. Even ME1 had some logic gymastics but the story was so much fun I ignored the bumps in the road. With ME2 those bumps became fissures and then in 3, sinkholes that swallowed things whole.

Why couldnt I keep my rose colored emotional sunglasses on? Oh yea, the ending still failed to satisfy me in that category. Weeeeeeelll at least Ill have my Vaguard Derp Effect glitching via MP. My brogard esp loves to get stuck into walls. :P