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[Applepie_Svk]

Wowky wrote...

I agree the original ending was lacking (and hell, there were even things that happened in the EC where I just thought "er...ok?"), but seriously, faults aren't the end of the world.

(maybe I just have a higher threshold/tolerance for this kind of thing)

You are not the only one, I could also overlooked some of the problems from previous games but whole storytelling was so much better so you just left this errors.

[Sauron001]

Wowky wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Wowky wrote...

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but seriously, if this guy hates this game THAT much, why not just not play it and spend time doing something else that he actually enjoys?

Perhaps because some people actually find it enjoyable to deconstruct and analyse a literary?

Yep because it´s literal veiw on ending makes no ****ing sense, but not for everyone ... some of the guys know how to connect dots even where is just one dot and that is bad writing...

I agree the original ending was lacking (and hell, there were even things that happened in the EC where I just thought "er...ok?"), but seriously, faults aren't the end of the world.

(maybe I just have a higher threshold/tolerance for this kind of thing)

It would be one thing if it had been free... but when you purchase a piece of art* it is supposed to be what you wanted...same with food...which is considered art; If its not up to par it should be returned and replaced with the item/food/piece that was expected of the consumer.

Art* can be

[Sauron001]

^viewed before it is purchased unlike games or movies thus they must do recalls and replace. Smudboy is right when he points out the rules for writing.

[Applepie_Svk]

Sauron001 wrote...

^viewed before it is purchased unlike games or movies thus they must do recalls and replace. Smudboy is right when he points out the rules for writing.

I think that TUN nailed it pretty much in one of his videos...

[Maxster_]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Maxster_, I was wrong, these people are trolls and they make up s**t and pretend it was apart of the game.

I told you so:D

I liked that part, with random Harbringer fire. That excuse was just hilarious

[Maxster_]

Redbelle wrote...

Seival wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Seival wrote...

Because initially the beam was protected by the destroyer and ground forces, which were located right infront of the beam, not 6km away.

So the Reaper IFF only works with Harbinger, and the Destroyer had no rubble in the eye?

Do you know the difference between detecting/shooting at 6km through all kinds of interference like dust, explosions plus tons of friendlies and hostiles on the "radar", using only one ship (which was not designed to attack small ships), and detecting/shooting close-distance-single-target using one ship plus tons of ground forces support located at the target's destination?

....
But perhaps the writers doged a bullet with that as the Thanix cannon can is only effective in space where vacuum does not provide a force to prevent the canon from accelerating it's ammo to a fraction of the speed of light. Atmospheric friction would have slowed the ammo causing it to bleed the energy off as heat.

...

Reapers bombarded planets with that.
Also, such lame excuse directly contradicts humanity sum of knowledge. Physics part, specifically

[Maxster_]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

If I'm understanding this correctly, the defence of the Normandy evacuation scene is that Harbinger can't... see.

Because, visual perception is like, obsolete? Like, he can't... see? I mean, seriously, it's the "pinnacle of evolution" but it doesn't have a sense modality that my pet dog has?

He is just retarded.

[Maxster_]

DirtyMouthSally wrote...

Seboist wrote...

The Normandy rescue scene in the EC was no incredibly moronic that I had to watch it twice in order to grasp what I was seeing.

Of course, it's just part of the larger issue of the Reapers being so stupid as to no shut off the beam in the first place and pick off the weekend LARPers... err "Alliance military" with ease.

In light of what I view as the extended cut only making matters worse, it serves to show just how discombobulated the original ending actually is, and that further "explanation" cannot fix it.

They could make that scene with shuttle. Alliance have a lot of those

They just don't care.

[Maxster_]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Sauron001 wrote...

^viewed before it is purchased unlike games or movies thus they must do recalls and replace. Smudboy is right when he points out the rules for writing.

I think that TUN nailed it pretty much in one of his videos...

I like this one.

[EnvyTB075]

Many, many good full retard posts today, i am enjoying myself immensely.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Maxster_ wrote...

I like this one.

Thanks for posting that.   Truly...Born Free. I'll take what tastes good and throw away the rest.

[StElmo]

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

[Dark_Caduceus]

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

It's not about having fun, it's about whether or not the story is good or bad. Mass Effect 2 was devoid of a plot but the gameplay was above average and the characters were entertaining. Did I have fun? Yes. Was the story any good? Not a chance.

That's why he called it a "narrative analysis" and not a "fun analysis".

[Podge 90]

The same 4 or 5 people, defending the endings even in the face of such blatant errors and terrible writing.

Modifié par Podge 90, 15 octobre 2012 - 02:21 .

[Discouraged_one]

I think the reviewer will never understand that NOTHING will ever be perfect. Not in video games either, nope...SORRY!

[squee365]

Discouraged_one wrote...

I think the reviewer will never understand that NOTHING will ever be perfect. Not in video games either, nope...SORRY!

I wonder what he thinks of Metal Gear Solid 4.

[xAmilli0n]

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

I agree with the bolded part, but I gotta say, I find most of his videos hilarious.  He makes some good criticisms, some bad ones, and a lot of useless ones, but they are entertaining videos eitherway.

[squee365]

xAmilli0n wrote...

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

I agree with the bolded part, but I gotta say, I find most of his videos hilarious.  He makes some good criticisms, some bad ones, and a lot of useless ones, but they are entertaining videos eitherway.

Like I said, if he just did OTHER games maybe I wouldn't think he was so biased. 

[xAmilli0n]

squee365 wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

I agree with the bolded part, but I gotta say, I find most of his videos hilarious.  He makes some good criticisms, some bad ones, and a lot of useless ones, but they are entertaining videos eitherway.

Like I said, if he just did OTHER games maybe I wouldn't think he was so biased. 

Fair enough.  He does seem to have some vendetta against the ME series (or at least he comes off that way).

[Ithurael]

squee365 wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

I agree with the bolded part, but I gotta say, I find most of his videos hilarious.  He makes some good criticisms, some bad ones, and a lot of useless ones, but they are entertaining videos eitherway.

Like I said, if he just did OTHER games maybe I wouldn't think he was so biased. 

Mass Effect 3 is the gift that keeps on giving though :wizard:

[Seboist]

Ithurael wrote...
Mass Effect 3 is the gift that keeps on giving though :wizard:

As is Mass Effect 2. The ME sequels are a text book example of how not to create a trilogy with all their retcons,continuity issues and just plain derp.

Speaking of derp, it takes a certain (lack of) skill to come up with something so dumb as the Reaper motivation that it makes the aliens' scheme in "Plan 9 from Outer Space"  of raising the undead to stop humans from creating a bomb that destroys the universe look sensible.

[The Night Mammoth]

Eterna5 wrote...

The Reapers pursue the Normandy when it emits a scanning pulse. Thus gives away its location and alerts Reapers that it isn't a Reaper.

And when the Normandy stops scanning? Or flies out of the system and comes back soon after? 

They can't see it because it's a stealth ship, with stealth technology, not because of some Reaper IFF making it magicaly appear exactly like a Reaper, despite the numerous differences.

The Destroyer would realize it's been tricked when another Reaper attacked it.

And not because it was simply hiding under the station transmitting the Geth control signal? 

Edi only modifies the IFF in ME3.

Citation. 

[Dark_Caduceus]

xAmilli0n wrote...

squee365 wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

StElmo wrote...

I think there are a few narrative issues with the ending that need to be fixed but this guy is so negative it's a wonder he ever has any fun playing anything.

I agree with the bolded part, but I gotta say, I find most of his videos hilarious.  He makes some good criticisms, some bad ones, and a lot of useless ones, but they are entertaining videos eitherway.

Like I said, if he just did OTHER games maybe I wouldn't think he was so biased. 

Fair enough.  He does seem to have some vendetta against the ME series (or at least he comes off that way).

I recall him saying that the story foundation ME1 laid out was great and that even though ME1 had many flaws it always retained the suspension of disbelief, which is completely true.

I feel alot of the negativity directed at his analyses is that he came out and said "Mass Effect 2 has no plot, it's a retconned mess, and the story is rubbish" when everyone was going "Wow, you can bang Tali!? Game of the decade!"

[Seboist]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Fair enough.  He does seem to have some vendetta against the ME series (or at least he comes off that way).

He's a fan of ME,  that easily explains his passionate hatred of the handling of the story in the sequels and he's never claimed to hate them as games.

It's just like how I enjoy Starcraft 2 as a game while abhoring the story due to it being far inferior to it's predessesor's (which I'm a big fan of).

[JBPBRC]

Seboist wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

Fair enough.  He does seem to have some vendetta against the ME series (or at least he comes off that way).

He's a fan of ME,  that easily explains his passionate hatred of the handling of the story in the sequels and he's never claimed to hate them as games.

It's just like how I enjoy Starcraft 2 as a game while abhoring the story due to it being far inferior to it's predessesor's (which I'm a big fan of).

This. I think he commented somewhere that he loves ME2, but hates the main plot (or lack thereof). And yes, SC2's story was awful compared to the first, glad to see I'm not the only one.