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Op, you know everyone is going to hate on this thread for doing this? Why bother?

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squee365 wrote...

I don't understand it. If you hate it so much, why bother putting so much effort into trying to ruin it for everyone else?


If you can figure out why everybody loves to rip on Justin Bieber all the time, you'll have half an answer.

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

squee365 wrote...

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So what ? I should instead blindly believe to IGN ?


No you should make your own opinion and stop following a crowd. 


Since the big bang of 6 march I had my own opinion and Smudboy or TUN and others summ it pretty well, just look outside and please tell me how many of big game journalists around the internet said truth about ME3 ? 


How about, I don't care what anyone else says about a game I happen to enjoy? 
Not even game journalists? 

Modifié par squee365, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:33 .


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Op, you know everyone is going to hate on this thread for doing this? Why bother?


Everyone? I think you mean a few people.
I could count them on 1 hand.

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There's always a hefty chunk of truth behind the things he brings up, but his approach makes watching his videos an insufferable experience---y'know, except for those who incessantly bash BioWare and Mass Effect already.


I'd agree.
I'm pretty much a viligant of stendarr when it comes things against the order, maybe that's why I enjoy hearing dislike for bad things.


Speaking of the Vigilants, were they pointless or what? Unless they played a role in the novels or something. Even then, ridiculously negligible in the actual game.

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squee365 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

So what ? I should instead blindly believe to IGN ?


No you should make your own opinion and stop following a crowd. 


Since the big bang of 6 march I had my own opinion and Smudboy or TUN and others summ it pretty well, just look outside and please tell me how many of big game journalists around the internet said truth about ME3 ? 


How about, I don't care what anyone else says about a game I happen to enjoy? 


You must, or you wouldn't be here insulting people

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dreman9999 wrote...

Op, you know everyone is going to hate on this thread for doing this? Why bother?


I don't hate this thread.  In fact I'm fairly stimulated.  Others may proceed to make jokes about how dull and unfullfilling my existance must be at their own discrestion now.

Modifié par Gamer790, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:37 .


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iakus wrote...

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It's part 2. Uploaded Oct, 8th. Don't know, but I haven't seen it's been posted here before ...


Every one of his videos doesn't need to be aggregated on to here. Its ridiculous that they are. 


Haven't seen much talk about the video here so far.  Just a start, then haters show up and  start ripping on him personally 


He has personally insulted Bioware and their fans on a number of occasions.

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:34 .


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iakus wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

So what ? I should instead blindly believe to IGN ?


No you should make your own opinion and stop following a crowd. 


Since the big bang of 6 march I had my own opinion and Smudboy or TUN and others summ it pretty well, just look outside and please tell me how many of big game journalists around the internet said truth about ME3 ? 


How about, I don't care what anyone else says about a game I happen to enjoy? 


You must, or you wouldn't be here insulting people


Who am I insulting? Seriously. 

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

So what ? I should instead blindly believe to IGN ?


No you should make your own opinion and stop following a crowd. 


Since the big bang of 6 march I had my own opinion and Smugboy or TUN and others summ it pretty well, just look outside and please tell me how many of big game journalists around the internet said truth about ME3 ? 

Ya, because everyone one of them can spoil the ending for us and not get falling into consiquence because of it.:whistle:

Please, ME3 is not a bad game...It may not have the ending you want but just because it does not doesnot make it a bad game..In fact it's a great game.....And Yes we had reviews say the ending is not top notch...


But ME3 is still a great game any way.

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

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dreamgazer wrote...
There's always a hefty chunk of truth behind the things he brings up, but his approach makes watching his videos an insufferable experience---y'know, except for those who incessantly bash BioWare and Mass Effect already.


I'd agree.
I'm pretty much a viligant of stendarr when it comes things against the order, maybe that's why I enjoy hearing dislike for bad things.


Speaking of the Vigilants, were they pointless or what? Unless they played a role in the novels or something. Even then, ridiculously negligible in the actual game.


They were fairly pointless, but they helped me out a bit.

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I remember when I saw his videos about ME2 a while back. What a joke.

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

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You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 


And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...
And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

And the fact that they couldn't pull that off in the extended cut shows just how shoddy that sequence was to begin with in the original. 

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Gamer790 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Op, you know everyone is going to hate on this thread for doing this? Why bother?


I don't hate this thread.  In fact I'm fairly stimulated.  Others may proceed to make jokes about how dull and unfullfilling my existance must be at the discrestion now.


Right because you're the majority.<_<

Sorry but in case yyou not been here long...The name "smud boy" comes with a crowd of pitch forks, torches and angry mobs here.

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Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.

Modifié par A Bethesda Fan, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:40 .


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Maxster_ wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 


And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I don't wish anything on him other than for him to be more open minded. 

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squee365 wrote...

Who am I insulting? Seriously. 


"I'm surrounded by fascists"?

In addition to accusing people on teh BSN of jsut being here to stroke his ego?

You're not the worst of the bunch, but you're clearly not here to be constructive

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squee365 wrote...

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I don't wish anything on him other than for him to be more open minded. 


That's fairly ironic

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SNascimento wrote...

I remember when I saw his videos about ME2 a while back. What a joke.


Yup, he said that ME2 had too many squadmates and apparently that had a negative effect on the plot.

I told him on the comment section that it's just a videogame and that he's making a big deal out of something so silly. Needless to say my comment got deleted and he blocked me.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:44 .


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iakus wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Who am I insulting? Seriously. 


"I'm surrounded by fascists"?

In addition to accusing people on teh BSN of jsut being here to stroke his ego?

You're not the worst of the bunch, but you're clearly not here to be constructive


And neither are you. 

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On a note that's actuially on topic, Tali's blood was a good point. Open wound+suit rupture likely means dead quarian.

Modifié par iakus, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:42 .


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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I never insulted him. So no you are wrong.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 


And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

When arrived in few seconds(3-5) after that order.