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#126
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dreman9999 wrote...

Sorry, I did not mean to be condisending...I just saying alot of peolpe just don't like smdboy...The op should know posting anything form him is not going to be well reseaved here.


No worries.  You' d have to work really hard to get me worked up or upset.  Here you can have one of my internet cookies to show there is no ill will.:)

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Mesina2 wrote...

Why is this guy still relevant?


I guess people like when someone on YouTube throws dirt at something ME3 related.

Which in most cases is justified, but this particular video has been posted over and over, to the point where it's just tedious.

Yes, Smudboy brings up some good points among his nitpicking (I think he's rather intolerant about flaws that way), but everyone already knows about it, because this whole thing was relevant months ago.

Why don't people post the news about Curiosity landing on Mars while they're at it?

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Op, you know everyone is going to hate on this thread for doing this? Why bother?


I don't hate this thread.  In fact I'm fairly stimulated.  Others may proceed to make jokes about how dull and unfullfilling my existance must be at their own discrestion now.

Before ME3 it was about 85% against and 15% for smudboy.  After ME3 it's about 25% against and 75% for smudboy.

People that were against him before now will say:  "Well, I don't really like the guy, but he does make some good points"

:lol:

Modifié par DirtyMouthSally, 13 octobre 2012 - 09:58 .


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Right because what IGN does means everyone does it.<_<

BS. You can grade everyone by what one person or group does.


When I see that most of the big gamming press around the world have almost same valuation and using almost same sentences to deffend their statement, then I know that something smell in state of Denemark... 

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squee365 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
If you putting his stuff on a borad that generally hates him...What do you expect?


It's only a vocal minority that hate him.


Thats what they all say :happy:


We are the 1%.

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dreman9999 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
If you putting his stuff on a borad that generally hates him...What do you expect?


It's only a vocal minority that hate him.

Everyone that posted in this topic stated that they dissagree with him or find that he is way too nickpick...That says alot.


A Bethesda Fan also wrote that they have never seen one of his videos so I think the claim "It's only a vocal minority that hate him." is pretty invalid. 

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Smudboy is by far my favourite critic.

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iakus wrote...

On a note that's actuially on topic, Tali's blood was a good point. Open wound+suit rupture likely means dead quarian.


Unless you actually talked to Kal Reegar in ME2.

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dreman9999 wrote...
Right because what IGN does means everyone does it.<_<

BS. You can grade everyone by what one person or group does.


When I see that most of the big gamming press around the world have almost same valuation and using almost same sentences to deffend their statement, then I know that something smell in state of Denemark... 


I don't know about that but that picture is making me hungry.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Why is this guy still relevant?


..
Why don't people post the news about Curiosity landing on Mars while they're at it?

I really have no idea. This was really important event.
This was throughoutly discussed even on russian political and gaming forums, not only science and space related.

Modifié par Maxster_, 13 octobre 2012 - 10:02 .


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Maxster_ wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Why is this guy still relevant?


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Why don't people post the news about Curiosity landing on Mars while they're at it?

I really have no idea. This was really important event.
This was throughoutly discussed even on russian political and gaming forums, not only science and space related.


Are we seriously comparing a youtuber to a huge scientific event? 

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Maxster_ wrote...

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You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 


And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

When arrived in few seconds(3-5) after that order.

How do you not know it was not over head near by before? 

Cutscenes, dialogues. Common sense, also.

Really?
1. Did we see the normady go back into the fleet battle?
2. If it was not supporting the feild...Why did we use the normady's system to aim the thanix missiles?
3.How did the rest of the squad get to the ground?
4.If you did not pick edi to go to the feild to the condiut, when we are aiming the thanix missles...Why is she seen on the normady?
Really, you don't have anything to show that it was not near by.

Modifié par dreman9999, 13 octobre 2012 - 10:09 .


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Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I never insulted him. So no you are wrong.

It's in response to the haters of this guy, that you attempted to defend.
My post was made in a direct reply to all haters of him, the context of your post and my reply implies this.

You're wrong.


Point to where I said I was defending people who threw personal attacks at smudboy.

I was defending those who were criticizing his videos. Criticizing a youtube video is nothing personal.


Someone said this

Haven't seen much talk about the video here so far.  Just a start, then haters show up and  start ripping on him personally 


And you said this in response

He has personally insulted Bioware and their fans on a number of occasions. 

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?" 


Maybe you forgot what you said.
People throw insults and you say they're defending themselves against him by throwing insults.

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squee365 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Why is this guy still relevant?


..
Why don't people post the news about Curiosity landing on Mars while they're at it?

I really have no idea. This was really important event.
This was throughoutly discussed even on russian political and gaming forums, not only science and space related.


Are we seriously comparing a youtuber to a huge scientific event? 

No.

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dreman9999 wrote...
Ya, because everyone one of them can spoil the ending for us and not get falling into consiquence because of it.:whistle:

Please, ME3 is not a bad game...It may not have the ending you want but just because it does not doesnot make it a bad game..In fact it's a great game.....And Yes we had reviews say the ending is not top notch...



Overall it´s ME3 just a average game with many flaws, at best 78 score but far away from 85+...but journalism works differently these days:whistle:

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I thought that video was funny, even though I don't believe reviewers are bought off.  Not that I put a lot of faith in them either.

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dreman9999 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
If you putting his stuff on a borad that generally hates him...What do you expect?


It's only a vocal minority that hate him.

Everyone that posted in this topic stated that they dissagree with him or find that he is way too nickpick...That says alot.

Not everyone,

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OMG ziggurat zombies again...

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Right because what IGN does means everyone does it.<_<

BS. You can grade everyone by what one person or group does.


When I see that most of the big gamming press around the world have almost same valuation and using almost same sentences to deffend their statement, then I know that something smell in state of Denemark... 

Please, prove it.=]

We all know ME3 is a great game...It just the ending people have a problem with it...Even the youtube critics say this.:whistle:

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It is a vocal minority.
Just look at the like/dislike bar, I may have to move onto my right foot to count all the haters.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
If you putting his stuff on a borad that generally hates him...What do you expect?


It's only a vocal minority that hate him.

Everyone that posted in this topic stated that they dissagree with him or find that he is way too nickpick...That says alot.

Not everyone,

Vast majority. Still no difference in my point.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I never insulted him. So no you are wrong.

It's in response to the haters of this guy, that you attempted to defend.
My post was made in a direct reply to all haters of him, the context of your post and my reply implies this.

You're wrong.


Point to where I said I was defending people who threw personal attacks at smudboy.

I was defending those who were criticizing his videos. Criticizing a youtube video is nothing personal.


Someone said this

Haven't seen much talk about the video here so far.  Just a start, then haters show up and  start ripping on him personally 


And you said this in response

He has personally insulted Bioware and their fans on a number of occasions. 

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?" 


Maybe you forgot what you said.
People throw insults and you say they're defending themselves against him by throwing insults.




I'm not defending those who throw insults at each other. I'm defending those who criticize his videos. They are not mutually exclusive to each other. Come on, it's not hard.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

It is a vocal minority.
Just look at the like/dislike bar, I may have to move onto my right foot to count all the haters.

You make it sound that people who hate him bother to watch his video.

If you hate someone...Why watch?

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iakus wrote...

Anyone else notice that the detractors rarely actually address the video and just hate on Smudboy? No? Just me?


I openly invited people, and am still waiting by the way, for them to actually refute anything he said. In fact, I will go one better and toss out the nitpicks. What are we left with?

- The Normandy inexplicably arriving in mere seconds, despite having to traverse through an ongoing Reaper battle.
- A squardmate abruptly being injured, despite any actual scene to display how it occurred.
- Why their survival is of any importance at this stage.
- Why Harbinger stops firing for no adequate explained reason

That last one, I can almost hear the conversation.

Joker: Hey, you can have Shepard. We're just here to pick up Garrus. Mass Effect 4 might need him.
Harbinger: SHEPARD.
Joker: Yep, all yours!
Harbinger: THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.

Anyone want to have a go?

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

On a note that's actuially on topic, Tali's blood was a good point. Open wound+suit rupture likely means dead quarian.

1. Quarian blood is not red.
2.Open suit is not instant death for them.
3. A quarin can sevive being expose...How do you think Tali can have sex with Shepard?


This is partially incorrect. ME2 depicts red blood for Quarians, although supposedly Weeks does not play with gore on. Thus, he opted for a different color in the comics. So technically, it may be a retcon. One more to the list.

For those saying oil, Smudboy did speculate on that. Personally, I never noticed until now. It very could be, although I am curious how oil managed to leak all over her but Garrus is bone dry. Sort of poses a hazard when you consider there is a lot of fire around.

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iakus wrote...

On a note that's actuially on topic, Tali's blood was a good point. Open wound+suit rupture likely means dead quarian.


Not necessarily, since she's had suit ruptures before. It's not like she dies the second there's a breach.

If it's about the Normandy landing scene on Earth, she got aboard the Normandy rather quickly, where there's a medical bay.

Seriously, this guy loves to nitpick about everything. I'd almost call them pointless fillers more than anything else.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"


You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.


I never insulted him. So no you are wrong.

It's in response to the haters of this guy, that you attempted to defend.
My post was made in a direct reply to all haters of him, the context of your post and my reply implies this.

You're wrong.


Point to where I said I was defending people who threw personal attacks at smudboy.

I was defending those who were criticizing his videos. Criticizing a youtube video is nothing personal.


Someone said this

Haven't seen much talk about the video here so far.  Just a start, then haters show up and  start ripping on him personally 


And you said this in response

He has personally insulted Bioware and their fans on a number of occasions. 

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?" 


Maybe you forgot what you said.
People throw insults and you say they're defending themselves against him by throwing insults.




I'm not defending those who throw insults at each other. I'm defending those who criticize his videos. They are not mutually exclusive to each other. Come on, it's not hard.


It looked like you were defending all of them, by making no limitations on your use of language.
Next time you want something to be known use better English.