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[KotorEffect3]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I think we can all agree that deep down we know he is mostly right.

Since when did you speak for everyone else?  Because you sure as hell don't speak for me.

[Dark_Caduceus]

squee365 wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...


Well, he did make several videos about how Mass Effect 2 could have been improved, though ME3 is likely too broken to have any fixes to the existing game; you'd need to scrap alot of part (case in point: Extended Cut DLC).

Its more like he made several videos explaining why Mass Effect 2 is terrible and utter trash. He doesn't say anything good about it really. 

He said the characters are good. And then he had the "Fixing Mass Effect" videos.

He doesn't really say anything about it as a game though. He just rips into the story and doesn't talk about gameplay or anything really. If he does then, my mistake, I must've missed that video. 

You recognize the contradiction in claiming "... he made several videos explaining why Mass Effect 2 is terrible and utter trash" and then agreeing that he praised the characters (which were a major part of the game, like, the only part of the game that was good)?

Praising the characters is inherently saying something about it as a game, because the characters are part of the game => It's an "interactive" narrative.

[KotorEffect3]

Cerbrus operative wrote...

Just so you know sumdboy does have an account here on BSN, but he does;nt use it anymore for some reason.

http://social.bioware.com/975570/

He would pick a Loghain avatar.  It is always either Loghain or TIM avatars with some of these people.

[Dark_Caduceus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I think we can all agree that deep down we know he is mostly right.

Since when did you speak for everyone else?  Because you sure as hell don't speak for me.

"I think we can all agree..." is a much different statement than "I'm speaking for everyone when I say...".

No straw men please.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 

And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

When arrived in few seconds(3-5) after that order.

How do you not know it was not over head near by before? 

Cutscenes, dialogues. Common sense, also.

Really?
1. Did we see the normady go back into the fleet battle?
2. If it was not supporting the feild...Why did we use the normady's system to aim the thanix missiles?
3.How did the rest of the squad get to the ground?
4.If you did not pick edi to go to the feild to the condiut, when we are aiming the thanix missles...Why is she seen on the normady?
Really, you don't have anything to show that it was not near by.

1. Joker says they rejoining the fleet. There is no Normandy in ground battle. If you are saying, they are just waiting somewhere not assisting in attack, when every ship needed in space - that is even more stupid.
2. Thanix missiles are lore-butchering nonsense. Also, there is some thing called radio communications, which is used, obviously, for communications.
3. Landed with Hammer, obviously. 
4. Where? There was only communication flat hologram. Also, EDI is Normandy, body is only external hardware.

Really, i know already, that discussing something with you is a waste of time. After your show with reapers main gun and thanix.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Well, to be honest, that scene was pretty poor. That mako looked like it was made of styrofoam flipping about like that. Is a mako super lightweight as in automobile light? 5 seconds for the evac? They were getting slaughtered down there. What was the point in that assault? Getting everyone killed?

The point of that scene was to cover up the fact that the dev team goofed and had one of your ground team walk out of the Normandy on Planet Gilligan in the original ending, instead of fixing that problem in the first place. So they created another problem. :facepalm:

[o Ventus]

I loathe smudboy, but if there's ever 1 thing I could agree with him on, it's ME3's ending.

[Maxster_]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well, to be honest, that scene was pretty poor. That mako looked like it was made of styrofoam flipping about like that. Is a mako super lightweight as in automobile light? 5 seconds for the evac? They were getting slaughtered down there. What was the point in that assault? Getting everyone killed?

The point of that scene was to cover up the fact that the dev team goofed and had one of your ground team walk out of the Normandy on Planet Gilligan in the original ending, instead of fixing that problem in the first place. So they created another problem. :facepalm:

I have no idea, why they haven't used generic shuttle. With STEEVE, or just some pilot.
Also that shuttle could took few other wounded soldiers.
Instead, they created another big glaring plothole.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

squee365 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

I remember when I saw his videos about ME2 a while back. What a joke.

Yup, he said that ME2 had too many squadmates and apparently that had a negative effect on the plot.

I told him on the comment section that it's just a videogame and that he's making a big deal out of something so silly. Needless to say my comment got deleted and he blocked me.

.
Really? That is sad. 

On one of his videos, I said I enjoy Mass Effect 2 for what it is and he equated me to being an eater of fecal matter and then blocked me. 

You didn't do it right. You took ME2 seriously. I don't. I take ME2 as a fun romp. I told him what I thought. I told him as an overall story plot for ME2, I agree, that it was very uneven. It was focused more on the characters and their issues than on what the main plot was supposed to be -- stopping the collectors. Stopping the collectors ended up as a minor plot line. But if you ignore the fact that there is supposed to be a story at all, and take each mission as a closed short story on its own, the game can be quite fun, especially if you throw mercenaries out windows for fun and treat the game as an Arnold movie in game form. He didn't call me an eater of fecal matter or block me.

[dreman9999]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

iakus wrote...

Anyone else notice that the detractors rarely actually address the video and just hate on Smudboy? No? Just me?

I openly invited people, and am still waiting by the way, for them to actually refute anything he said. In fact, I will go one better and toss out the nitpicks. What are we left with?

- The Normandy inexplicably arriving in mere seconds, despite having to traverse through an ongoing Reaper battle.
- A squardmate abruptly being injured, despite any actual scene to display how it occurred.
- Why their survival is of any importance at this stage.
- Why Harbinger stops firing for no adequate explained reason

That last one, I can almost hear the conversation.

Joker: Hey, you can have Shepard. We're just here to pick up Garrus. Mass Effect 4 might need him.
Harbinger: SHEPARD.
Joker: Yep, all yours!
Harbinger: THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.

Anyone want to have a go?

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

On a note that's actuially on topic, Tali's blood was a good point. Open wound+suit rupture likely means dead quarian.

1. Quarian blood is not red.
2.Open suit is not instant death for them.
3. A quarin can sevive being expose...How do you think Tali can have sex with Shepard?

This is partially incorrect. ME2 depicts red blood for Quarians, although supposedly Weeks does not play with gore on. Thus, he opted for a different color in the comics. So technically, it may be a retcon. One more to the list.

For those saying oil, Smudboy did speculate on that. Personally, I never noticed until now. It very could be, although I am curious how oil managed to leak all over her but Garrus is bone dry. Sort of poses a hazard when you consider there is a lot of fire around.

1.- "The Normandy inexplicably arriving in mere seconds, despite having to traverse through an ongoing Reaper battle."

About that...Where is the normady in the battle? Why is EDI on the ground before the run to the conduit but on the normandy when we prime the thanix missiles?

2.- A squardmate abruptly being injured, despite any actual scene to display how it occurred.

It 's the reason why they are sent back on the normady.

3.- Why their survival is of any importance at this stage.

Shepard does care about his crew.

Really not a major whole. This is just a nick pick.

4.- Why Harbinger stops firing for no adequate explained reason

He did not stop firing.

5."This is partially incorrect. ME2 depicts red blood for Quarians"

No it did not.

[Dark_Caduceus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

squee365 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

I remember when I saw his videos about ME2 a while back. What a joke.

Yup, he said that ME2 had too many squadmates and apparently that had a negative effect on the plot.

I told him on the comment section that it's just a videogame and that he's making a big deal out of something so silly. Needless to say my comment got deleted and he blocked me.

.
Really? That is sad. 

On one of his videos, I said I enjoy Mass Effect 2 for what it is and he equated me to being an eater of fecal matter and then blocked me. 

You didn't do it right. You took ME2 seriously. I don't. I take ME2 as a fun romp. I told him what I thought. I told him as an overall story plot for ME2, I agree, that it was very uneven. It was focused more on the characters and their issues than on what the main plot was supposed to be -- stopping the collectors. Stopping the collectors ended up as a minor plot line. But if you ignore the fact that there is supposed to be a story at all, and take each mission as a closed short story on its own, the game can be quite fun, especially if you throw mercenaries out windows for fun and treat the game as an Arnold movie in game form. He didn't call me an eater of fecal matter or block me.

I think anyone can disagree with this assessment. The disparate stories are actually pretty cool. And the game is certainly fun. But I consider Mass Effect 1 not just one of my favourite video games, but also one of my favourite stories. So for me it was like if someone decided to write a sequel to Shakespeare's Othello and hire the screen writer from Charlie's Angels 2.

Story in Mass Effect is a game maker or breaker for me, and it thoroughly dissapointed me.

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 

And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

When arrived in few seconds(3-5) after that order.

How do you not know it was not over head near by before? 

Cutscenes, dialogues. Common sense, also.

Really?
1. Did we see the normady go back into the fleet battle?
2. If it was not supporting the feild...Why did we use the normady's system to aim the thanix missiles?
3.How did the rest of the squad get to the ground?
4.If you did not pick edi to go to the feild to the condiut, when we are aiming the thanix missles...Why is she seen on the normady?
Really, you don't have anything to show that it was not near by.

1. Joker says they rejoining the fleet. There is no Normandy in ground battle. If you are saying, they are just waiting somewhere not assisting in attack, when every ship needed in space - that is even more stupid.
2. Thanix missiles are lore-butchering nonsense. Also, there is some thing called radio communications, which is used, obviously, for communications.
3. Landed with Hammer, obviously. 
4. Where? There was only communication flat hologram. Also, EDI is Normandy, body is only external hardware.

Really, i know already, that discussing something with you is a waste of time. After your show with reapers main gun and thanix.

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.
2. No it's not a retcon of anything. And  it make no sense to have a ship used  as  the communication center of the entire fleet be in the heat of the battle.
3 and4. EDI's mobleplatform is seen on the normady when the thanix missiles are being aimed. It's not just the normandy. Please expline how EDI'S MOBLIEPLATFORM is on the normady.

[hukbum]

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Modifié par hukbum, 13 octobre 2012 - 11:36 .

[dreman9999]

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Ok then..But how did EDI get back on the ship?

If we don't take EDI with us on the mission tothe conduit, we see her mobleplatform on the ship during the time the thanix missile are primed.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You can make anything seem bad if you nit pick enough. Entertainment and media requires that you to some degree suspend your disbelief. 

And it requires the creator to, by some degree, suspend your disbelief for you.

The EC evacuation scene was freaking retarded. An appropriate analogy
would be a military commander on the beaches of Normandy calling for a
helicoopter to evac his squad (in the middle of a hot zone). It's so
unbelievable that it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

We already have to accept the notion of a sci-fi setting with bipedal aliens, faster-than-light travel, and blue babes that can murder you telepathically. It's the creator's job to make sure that all those elements remain as consistent and believable within that context as possible throughout a story (or trilogy), so that the audience can continue to accept it. Bioware dun goofed way too many times for them to have succeeded at this, so any loss of suspension of disbelief in the final act rests squarely on their shoulders.

Any serious battle from modern wars is perfect example of utter retardness of that evacuation.
Shepard endangers more than a 100 crew, and advanced frigate(which have role and position in fleet), to evacuate TWO expendable soldiers(and ignore other) in most important battle. Then Joker deserts his frigate pack, to compel order from ashore officer, completely ignoring chain of command. That is complete nonsense. Shepard is retarded in this scene, Joker is deserter. Teleporting Normandy is a big plothole.

When did the normady teleport?

When arrived in few seconds(3-5) after that order.

How do you not know it was not over head near by before? 

Cutscenes, dialogues. Common sense, also.

Really?
1. Did we see the normady go back into the fleet battle?
2. If it was not supporting the feild...Why did we use the normady's system to aim the thanix missiles?
3.How did the rest of the squad get to the ground?
4.If you did not pick edi to go to the feild to the condiut, when we are aiming the thanix missles...Why is she seen on the normady?
Really, you don't have anything to show that it was not near by.

1. Joker says they rejoining the fleet. There is no Normandy in ground battle. If you are saying, they are just waiting somewhere not assisting in attack, when every ship needed in space - that is even more stupid.
2. Thanix missiles are lore-butchering nonsense. Also, there is some thing called radio communications, which is used, obviously, for communications.
3. Landed with Hammer, obviously. 
4. Where? There was only communication flat hologram. Also, EDI is Normandy, body is only external hardware.

Really, i know already, that discussing something with you is a waste of time. After your show with reapers main gun and thanix.

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.
2. No it's not a retcon of anything. And  it make no sense to have a ship used  as  the communication center of the entire fleet be in the heat of the battle.
3 and4. EDI's mobleplatform is seen on the normady when the thanix missiles are being aimed. It's not just the normandy. Please expline how EDI'S MOBLIEPLATFORM is on the normady.

1. You really don't know, what are you talking about.
Normandy is rejoining sword
2. Thanix missiles is nonsense. It contradicts the lore. Or named wrongly(should be javelin).
As for fleet communication center of the fleet - you, as always, just making things up. Also, with this your headcanon it is even more stupid to use fleet communication center for evacuation.
3.4. Yet another hole in their already broken plot.

[hukbum]

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Ok then..But how did EDI get back on the ship?

If we don't take EDI with us on the mission tothe conduit, we see her mobleplatform on the ship during the time the thanix missile are primed.

Because EDI is cool. She can be at two places in the same time. Never took her with me in my playthroughs. Does she appear on that display too? That would be funny to see ^^
Like, if you take her with you on the Gethdreadnought-mission. One time she talks directly with Tali, the next time she talks as the ship.

[Morty Smith]

I want a smudboy plushie.

<3

[Applepie_Svk]

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Ok then..But how did EDI get back on the ship?

If we don't take EDI with us on the mission tothe conduit, we see her mobleplatform on the ship during the time the thanix missile are primed.

EDI exists primary within the ship - she is the ship... Did you even talk with EDI or watch this video ? Because it´s exactly point of why is hilarious EDI´s evac scene...

[Eterna]

squee365 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"

You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.

I don't wish anything on him other than for him to be more open minded. 

I want him dead. But honestly, I'm a pretty unreasonable and hyperbolic person. 

[MegaSovereign]

Eterna5 wrote...

squee365 wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Why are you calling people who are defending themselves "haters?"

You're not defending them, you're hating on him.
Posting negative comments about his well-being is a bit beyond defending something.

I don't wish anything on him other than for him to be more open minded. 

I want him dead. But honestly, I'm a pretty unreasonable and hyperbolic person. 

Don't know why but this reminded me of South Park...

There's no way to get rid of the UPS man. Not in anyway you're ready for. You have to kill him.

[dreman9999]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Ok then..But how did EDI get back on the ship?

If we don't take EDI with us on the mission tothe conduit, we see her mobleplatform on the ship during the time the thanix missile are primed.

EDI exists primary within the ship - she is the ship... Did you even talk with EDI or watch this video ? Because it´s exactly point of why is hilarious EDI´s evac scene...

http://www.youtube.c...GquvCW4#t=1239s

You're clearly not understanding what I mean. That video is shown to you if you don't have EDI in the final push with you.

Modifié par dreman9999, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:14 .

[dreman9999]

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

hukbum wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Joker never said he rejoined the fleet.

He did

Even worse: He said something about rejoining "Sword" not rejoining "Hammer" ^^

Ok then..But how did EDI get back on the ship?

If we don't take EDI with us on the mission tothe conduit, we see her mobleplatform on the ship during the time the thanix missile are primed.

Because EDI is cool. She can be at two places in the same time. Never took her with me in my playthroughs. Does she appear on that display too? That would be funny to see ^^
Like, if you take her with you on the Gethdreadnought-mission. One time she talks directly with Tali, the next time she talks as the ship.

You not getting it what I mean...
I mean this..
http://www.youtube.c...GquvCW4#t=1239s

Edi is in one part one with the normady and has her moble platform...If you don't bring her moble platfrom on the final push....Her mobleplatform is seen on the normandy.

Modifié par dreman9999, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:09 .

[Someone With Mass]

dreman9999 wrote...

5."This is partially incorrect. ME2 depicts red blood for Quarians"

No it did not.

Yes it did. On Freedom's Progress, when the quarians were attacked by that mech. Red blood everywhere.

[clennon8]

Ha. It's kinda funny/sad watching all the drones fall all over themselves in the rush to call the video garbage. Especially since the video is DEAD FREAKING ON THE MONEY.

[Applepie_Svk]

dreman9999 wrote...
You not getting it what I mean...
I mean this..
http://www.youtube.c...GquvCW4#t=1239s

Edi is in one part one with the normady and has her moble platform...If you don't bring her moble platfrom on the final push....Her mobleplatform is seen on the normandy.

another example of how bad written is the ending sequence ... yeah priceless, good job Dreman keep up and maybe you find another catch after all these months.