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[Rebel_Raven]

Deadlysyns wrote...
Female Krogans can fight but they won't. Female Turians i could see but i doubt it because if they added them in people would wonder why they were not fighting on the moon to protect their own planet. so Quarians and Asari it is and Asari have to have female organs or Else Liara and Shepard would be awkward 

ME3 kinda really killed the old Krogan lore of ME2, and ME1 people really cling on to.

Infertile female krogans have fought before, and are already fighting, acting as decoys to protect the fertile, etc.  They outnumber the males, and male krogans are some of the most numerous species we have.

No small leap to have some head out to take the fight to the reapers to make sure the fertile females have the time to do what they do, or soemthing like that.

Female Turians? We didn't see them coz we were at the wrong places at the wrong times. We don't really see that many turian soldiers, do we?

But yeah, there's something to be said for their absence. Personally I don't care, since it's being remedied. Curiosuity is high as to what they look and sound like, and how the one we'll see will act.

Edit for misquotes

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[Inabstract]

[quote]Deadlysyns wrote...

[/quote] Female Krogans can fight but they won't. Female Turians i could see but i doubt it because if they added them in people would wonder why they were not fighting on the moon to protect their own planet. so Quarians and Asari it is and Asari have to have female organs or Else Liara and Shepard would be awkward [/quote]
It's not that they don't want to fight, it's that the males hold them back for reproduction purposes. Talk to Grunt in ME2 and he confirms there were female Krogan Warlords.

The SP point of view is irrelevant. Bringing them in now would be fine if they chose so.

Quarians and Asari are always fine of course. Not sure where you got the organs part but yes, of course they need female organs. Still not sure where you got that from though.

Modifié par Inabstract, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:56 .

[Rebel_Raven]

Ypiret wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ypiret wrote...
So everyone is just going to ignore this?

I'd appreciate it if they did. I don't want to see this thread locked for going off topic. It veered way the heck off for a bit.

It's not that it's not worth talking about, it's that this isn't the place for it.

The other thread was locked?

Also, everytime I click your manifest it takes me to mine.

The last living topic of mine is not locked, no, but my first one was did get locked which helped prompt me to make another.

Also, weird about the manifests. o.O I'll have to see what I can do about that.

[Iron Spetsnaz]

Ypiret wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

 

Rebel_Raven wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

!!!

*Fixes*  Wrong typo at the wrong time in the wrong place. lol

DullahansXMark wrote...

MearasNZ wrote...

That was not nice and definitely not necessary.

Perhaps if your gender had spend centuries being oppressed, paid less, considered "property," had no rights within a marriage, used as cannon fodder in wars, raped by soldiers and militants because it was these men's "right" to do so as part of the spoils of war, then you might understand exactly WHY it is important to most women that there is some equality in most areas of our lives. Until you have experienced that, you have no right to insult anybody because of their gender. [/b]

Reported.

Not to undermine your point any, but... have you [/i]experienced any of that? 

I'unno, being paid less? Centuries of oppression that's still kinda sorta going on? Especially in some parts of the world?
Sounds kinda like modern problems to me, duder. As ugly as a truth as that is.

Its the reverse in the US. Women with the same work experience/qualifications in the same fields earn slightly more than males. Nonadjusted for professions/work experience it appears that men earn more, something that our  feminists make use of to push laws that encourage higher wages for women(probably what explains this discrepency in wages). Reverse-sexism or  reverse-racism(which shouldn't actually need a reverse qualifier) is plenty common in Western civilization that it makes me wonder whether people are completely missing the point when it comes to a color/gender-blind society.



Also lol at the implication that discrimination against oneself allows one to fairly insult an entire gender. Probably not intended in there, but humorous nonetheless.

So everyone is just going to ignore this?

Also to add on, if employers could get away with paying women less for the same work, why would they hire men?
This is the U.S. we're talking about; the country were empoyers will ship the business to starving Asian children and illegal immigrant just to save so money.

Men and women are both victoms of gender roles to a significant degree. The only thing now is that women are recieving help, but men are not. For example, it's totally cool now for women to walk around "masculine" clothing, but there are many places in the U.S. where a man would be ridiculed or even assulted for dressing in "feminine" clothing.

Slavery has little to do with gender in most cases;  it depends on what type of social stratification a society has. It's usually a persons ethnicity and religion that determine whether of not they'll be a slave.The majority of people who've been treated as property were men. Men were captured at war were often made into slaves by the enemy country. Yes, women were slaves too, but there were often given less grueling tasks.

Agreed.

Hell any double standard about Gender really PISSES. ME. OFF

Whether they are sexist against men AND WOMEN, they really make me angry

Modifié par Iron Spetsnaz, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:03 .

[billy the squid]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Firebase Kitchen

Haha, I demand that the female Krogan melee uses a handbag.

[ntrisley]

Vandicus wrote...

Inabstract wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Inabstract wrote...

We don't really need an *all-female* dlc, but females are welcome of course.

Very true!

Buuuut then again we didn't need a 0 female DLC either, but we got those to say the least.

At this point in time it's irrelevant now. I can understand bringing in an all-female dlc due to having a 'supposedly' all-male dlc (Rebellion) but time has passed since then. The reason I say supposedly is due to Vorcha being an unknown gender reasonably. We haven't seen any female Vorcha so as far as we know, we can imply there may be female Vorcha consisting in their ranks.

I'm fine with more dlc with females and if they ever did make an all-female dlc, fine with me.

Vorcha are hermaphroditic. We don't need another turian infiltrator, soldier, or sentinel. I wouldn't object to a female ex-Cerberus sniper, adept or engineer. Simple reskins, imo, are a waste of a dlc though. Female elcor, volus, and hanar, are fine too, but devoting a dlc to reskins with old powers would be meh imo.

I would.

We already got the female N7s who are simply one class.

You want to add female N7s, you put them in the Vanguard, Soldier, and Sentinel slots.
I've said before that it would have been obscenely simple for them to do "alternate" N7s which have a different playstyle from the existing single gender ones and still would have managed to fit the opposing archetypes of those which they tried to match up (the deadly female assassin[Shadow], the saavy female specialist/saboteur [Demolisher], and the cunning female mage [Fury]) for Earth proper.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

inb4 salor moon squad

[Fierydragon30]

If you don't want fem chars, then don't reply about it.(This includes if you have seen something like this again)
I'm all for it.

[Rebel_Raven]

ntrisley wrote...
I would.

We already got the female N7s who are simply one class.

You want to add female N7s, you put them in the Vanguard, Soldier, and Sentinel slots.
I've said before that it would have been obscenely simple for them to do "alternate" N7s which have a different playstyle from the existing single gender ones and still would have managed to fit the opposing archetypes of those which they tried to match up (the deadly female assassin[Shadow], the saavy female specialist/saboteur [Demolisher], and the cunning female mage [Fury]) for Earth proper.

I dunno if it's ever happened, but I agree with you on this... completely it looks like. A gender switch button would've saved us all a lot of frustration, I think.

Further, we already have an engineer, adept, and infiltrator n7. They're damn fine classes being made with the tougher difficulties in mind. Not sure they could be topped, easily, save the Shadow who's not any more synergized for Sniper rifles than any other infiltrator if not less so, but is still quite deadly.

I'd really rather see a new N7 female Soldier, Vanguard, and Sentinel with the new difficulty in mind over another infiltrator. Especially a new female soldier, or Vanguard. Those are in the shortest supply.

They could cop out, and make an "earth 2" pack with simple gender reversals, and I'd cheer for it.

Fierydragon30 wrote...

If you don't want fem chars, then don't reply about it.(This includes if you have seen something like this again)
I'm all for it.

The Naysayers are free to comment on it, but I'd hope they remained civil, and tried to be mature about it.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:58 .

[Rudest]

I'd like to make it clear that I have never been against more female characters, just that the notion that the lack of them is some form of oppression is laughable.

That is all! I don't think anything good will come of me raving about it again.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

First people want male quarians, now they want more female characters? Well, I can't honestly think of anything left to make, unless you just want to create a female version of every character, with the exact same powers. I don't see the point.

Maybe you could have a female Spectre, with Turian-like jump jets and cool powers...

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 14 octobre 2012 - 02:04 .

[khannoir]

MercenaryNo wrote...

Let's make a bunch more threads about the same thing because we're afraid of no one seeing our reply in an existing thread plz.

Yea... its not like there were 15 threads of Volus hate...<_<

[Rebel_Raven]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

First people want male quarians, now they want more female characters? Well, I can't honestly think of anything left to make, unless you just want to create a female version of every character, with the exact same powers. I don't see the point.

Maybe you could have a female Spectre, with Turian-like jump jets and cool powers...

I never wanted Male Quarians! X( lol
We still don't have an exchange where we get a female version of a male only species either!

I don't think I was around for seeing the big stuff about them.

None the less, I'm not gunna say "get rid of all the male quarians!" or would have even opposed them being added if I were around back then.

It doesn't have to be a female version of them all with the same powers for me. I just want more variety among the women.

More female Soldiers, more female sentinels, more female vanguards largely, with potent kits for me please. Especially more female soldiers since we still only have one female soldier.

[LtBashkar]

Currently, the game has a 2:1 ratio one male to female characters. I'm not counting the Geth in this, because they're meant to be asexual, though they sound and look more like males than anything else.

There are more female classes in the "caster" types, like engineer and adept, than in other types. They also break even amongst infiltrators.

The biggest disparity is soldier, where men kill the women 8 to 1. After that, it's sentinel, with 6 to 1. It's certainly concerning that the breakdown seems to fall along stereotypical lines, as in the men are the tough, strong, soldiery classes and women are the in-the-back, soft spellcasters.

In part this is because BioWare wants to expand on the multiplayer while doing the minimal amount of work. Mass Effect smacks of this. Some lore conveniently enables them to ignore certain genders of the races, which lowers the amount of modeling and voice acting they have to do. In other cases, it's just an ignored factor, like female Volus, Turian, Elcor and Drell.

More classes period would be good, but a more even breakdown with female characters in classes that aren't well-represented (Soldier, Sentinel and Vanguard) would be good.

Modifié par LtBashkar, 14 octobre 2012 - 02:25 .

[yurksaa]

First they claim BW is sexist for the banner 'Biotic God' instead of goddess now a proposition for all female characters. The females in this community must having syncing periods because there is far too much ****ing. +1 for female Turian

[TheImmortalBeaver]

I think that all classes should be gender-swappable. Being a guy, I play guys as I feel I can role-play them better. I imagine that the opposite is true for most female players (it certainly is true for my sister, who I got into Mass Effect). So, it would be great if you could just play as either gender for any classes (excluding mono-gender species, of course) instead of needing to worry about adding new classes of specific gender.

[Blennus]

You know, when I first saw this thread I read Revolting DLC. I thought that it was another volus complaint thread. lol

[MearasNZ]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

I did not mean dulluhan was humorous to you, mereasNZ. I just wanted to point out his post regarding rebel raven's spelling error.

I figured that's what you meant 

All's good with you and with Dull

[Rebel_Raven]

Misterpinky0 wrote...

I think that all classes should be gender-swappable. Being a guy, I play guys as I feel I can role-play them better. I imagine that the opposite is true for most female players (it certainly is true for my sister, who I got into Mass Effect). So, it would be great if you could just play as either gender for any classes (excluding mono-gender species, of course) instead of needing to worry about adding new classes of specific gender.

As much as I like the idea, the problem is there's a lot of races out there that are stubbornly represented by one gender and may as well be monogendered races.

As it stands now, the gender toggle won't work beyond humans, and quarians.

Maybe in the future, when Bioware has time to figure out how females will look, they'll add them, then add the gender toggle, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It took an entire trilogy, and a lot of DLCs just to settle on what a female turian looks like.

[Chamroeun]

...Just do it. Please Bioware if you're listening, you gave us the bloody marshmallows and collectors, you can give us some more female chars! You can even make a nice little trailer about how it's time for EVERYONE to get involved in the fight~

Mothers fighting for a future for their children, hell hath no fury than a woman's scorn~ Hell, we've all been facing the wrath of a few even on the forums. Tis not a battle you'll win. xP You've already caved in to a few of the communities demands, what's a few more, yeah?

[Caldari Ghost]

Geth vanguard and Elcor engineer then?

[Rebel_Raven]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

Geth vanguard and Elcor engineer then?

Hey, we have turians rocketing around on jetpacks! Gethgard isn't likely too far off once they feel they have a good grasp on jetpack mechanics, and people accept the Shadow who's pretty much a techguard.

Adjustments to a brute's frame/skin could possibly make an elcor. But I really should take the time to try and study their frames/builds... buuut I'm also a procrastinator...

[Guglio08]

I don't even care about the "more women" movements (is it a movement now if 4/5 threads were made by one person?) but I have strong objections to literally just slapping any power on any character. It's like no one even reads the power descriptions?

Multi-Frag Grenade, for instance, is fired directly from the T5-V Battlesuit. The Omni-Shield is a potent weapon that specialized N7 Operatives train to use. Simply copy pasting those kinds of powers onto "new" characters feels cheap. Either use a more open power, like Warp or Overload, or invent one.

[Rebel_Raven]

I hope the OP didn't get scared off or sumfin like that. Getting pounced on by angry trolls and stuff.

[jpraelster93]

Yes because the sex of the character determines how good it is