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[MegaSovereign]

Yea, I thought Andrea's survival from the CDC explosion was a sign that her story was going somewhere. But nope, I guess Dale really was looney. It would have been better for her to die at the CDC afterall.

[HiddenInWar]

Nobody remind me of dale, I will cry.

[AtreiyaN7]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Nobody remind me of dale, I will cry.

*pat pat* Poor Dale.

[Naughty Bear]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Nobody remind me of dale, I will cry.

Dale had a lovely close up of surgery gone wrong.

[MegaSovereign]

Look at the bright side, Dale did lose his belly fat.

[TEWR]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Yeah all that build up and we ended on a rather flaccid resolution.

I had mixed feelings about Season 3 overall.

I absolutely loved Merle's redeeming act closer to the end but the Governor's arc seems so random. We all know what type of man he is but his unstable attitude seems to be purposeless. Don't even get me started on how Lori's ghost is now Rick's moral compass.

I loved Merle's redemption arc but also felt that it wasn't done as well as it could've been. I loved it because it went just as I wanted it to more or less, but didn't like it because he should've been the one to kill the Governor (he had the most cause) and should've, as he did in the episode, died in the process. 

Merle's arc was almost exactly how I thought it should've gone, but they should've also had him interact with the baby a few times (obviously without Little Merle), apologized (poorly) to Glenn about what happened to Maggie (and maybe even to Maggie herself as well), and some other things to make him seem more a part of the group.

I also feel that it should've happened in Season 3's finale (which should've been like.... 2 hours long or more).

Merle's arc needed more screen time, if you ask me. It's really tough to voice just how I feel about the Merle arc.

I really don't see everyone's problem. Maybe it's because I haven't read the comics so it's good to me but a disappointment to all of you, I don't know... But why are you all complaining so much? You watch all the episodes and get involved with the story, but you turn around and start criticizing it? I'm really not trying to be rude but... it is getting old.

I really hate this argument. 

"If you don't like it, stop watching it!"

Except a lot of people are fans of the Walking Dead and wanted to see the series remain more or less faithful to the comics, and so continue to watch it in the hope that it will get better. And when it doesn't, they talk about how it isn't getting better.

I haven't read the comics either (though I know a lot of stuff that goes on in them) but that doesn't mean I can't complain about bad writing in the show itself.

Bad writing is bad writing.

[AtreiyaN7]

I've read Volume 1 of the comics and watch the show regularly (only reason I haven't gone past Volume 1 yet is to avoid potential spoilers - on the other hand, I guess it would be reasonably safe to read Volume 2 now at least...). Personally, I've never been of the opinion that movies or tv adaptations of books and/or comics need to slavishly follow the source material. I consider them separate animals, each with a different twist on events. I definitely thought that Season 2 dragged a bit and that the search for Sophia went on way too long, but I enjoyed Season 3 and think there was some very good acting (particularly Lennie James in Clear as Morgan).

I get where people are people are coming from on wanting to see the Governor die and get his just desserts. ( God knows, I was rooting for Merle to shoot him - stupid kid getting in the way...grrrr). However, I think the Governor is meant to be around for a while and that his arc is sort of his origin story as a villain (as far as the tv series goes that is).

I viewed it as the Governor starting out as someone who is a psychopath/sociopath, but one who is largely in control of himself and his impulses. He manages to hide who he is pretty well from the average Woodbury citizen (not counting his henchmen!) and maintains the illusion that he's a nice guy at first, but over the course of the season his facade is slowly chipped away at, starting with his first run-in with Rick's group. By the time of the season finale, he's become completely unhinged, which I believe is what his sudden massacring of his own people is intended to show.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 23 juin 2013 - 08:04 .

[Naughty Bear]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I've read Volume 1 of the comics and watch the show regularly (only reason I haven't gone past Volume 1 yet is to avoid potential spoilers - on the other hand, I guess it would be reasonably safe to read Volume 2 now at least...). Personally, I've never been of the opinion that movies or tv adaptations of books and/or comics need to slavishly follow the source material. I consider them separate animals, each with a different twist on events. I definitely thought that Season 2 dragged a bit and that the search for Sophia went on way too long, but I enjoyed Season 3 and think there was some very good acting (particularly Lennie James in Clear as Morgan).

I get where people are people are coming from on wanting to see the Governor die and get his just desserts. ( God knows, I was rooting for Merle to shoot him - stupid kid getting in the way...grrrr). However, I think the Governor is meant to be around for a while and that his arc is sort of his origin story as a villain (as far as the tv series goes that is).

I viewed it as the Governor starting out as someone who is a psychopath/sociopath, but one who is largely in control of himself and his impulses. He manages to hide who he is pretty well from the average Woodbury citizen (not counting his henchmen!) and maintains the illusion that he's a nice guy at first, but over the course of the season his facade is slowly chipped away at, starting with his first run-in with Rick's group. By the time of the season finale, he's become completely unhinged, which I believe is what his sudden massacring of his own people is intended to show.

Don't quote me on this but I read somewhere that the Governor is a different person in season 4. I presume he has snapped.

[MegaSovereign]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Yeah all that build up and we ended on a rather flaccid resolution.

I had mixed feelings about Season 3 overall.

I absolutely loved Merle's redeeming act closer to the end but the Governor's arc seems so random. We all know what type of man he is but his unstable attitude seems to be purposeless. Don't even get me started on how Lori's ghost is now Rick's moral compass.

Merle's arc was almost exactly how I thought it should've gone, but they should've also had him interact with the baby a few times (obviously without Little Merle), apologized (poorly) to Glenn about what happened to Maggie (and maybe even to Maggie herself as well), and some other things to make him seem more a part of the group.

I also feel that it should've happened in Season 3's finale (which should've been like.... 2 hours long or more).

Merle's arc needed more screen time, if you ask me. It's really tough to voice just how I feel about the Merle arc.

But he doesn't feel sorry. He admits that he does crazy things just to survive. His last words were "I ain't beggin'" and I think that really does illustrate what type of character he is. The only loyalty he has is to his brother.

I don't think he should have became a saint in the last episode of his life. I think the writers wanted to be really subtle about his "soft side." So they dropped hints like the Bible quoting and Merle feeling sorry about the abuse his brother got from his father.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 23 juin 2013 - 04:56 .

[TEWR]

But he doesn't feel sorry. He admits that he does crazy things just to survive. His last words were "I ain't beggin'" and I think that really does illustrate what type of character he is. The only loyalty he has is to his brother.
.

Ah but he does! I had watched interviews with Kirkman, the directors, the writers, Andrew Lincoln, and so on about Merle and they do say he is not, much as he likes to call himself, the type to do those types of acts. How his time with the group helped mold him into a better person despite how he didn't think anything would happen.

The fact that he couldn't bring himself down to the Governor's level by bringing Michonne to him illustrates this as well.

More then that, he apologized to Michonne, if for no other reason then to have a level bearing between them so **** wouldn't happen, and she did not have any gripes with Merle as the episodes went on.

I don't think he should have became a saint in the last episode of his life. I think the writers wanted to be really subtle about his "soft side." So they dropped hints like the Bible quoting and Merle feeling sorry about the abuse his brother got from his father.

Those were great moments, that's true. Some of my favorites, in fact. But note that I'm not saying the baby moment and the apology must have happened in his final episode, but rather throughout the season. More stuff to throw out there.

[MegaSovereign]

Thoughts on Season 4 Premiere?

I feel like there needs to be a change of setting. The Prison is getting a little too routine.

[Seagloom]

Based on what I read there will be several road trips a la the Big Spot run. The situation at the prison is supposed to go pear-shaped fast. We're also going to see at least two Governor centric episodes similar to "Clear" last season; where we learn what he's been up to since his exit.

Thoughts on the premiere? Eh, it was alright. Nice to see moar Daryl. Michonne is like, almost human now too. XD Some nice banter all around between weird or tense moments. A little too much expository dialogue mixed clumsily into conversation for my tastes; but TWD always has that issue.

Not much else to say since it was a setup episode filled with foreshadowing. I'm expecting most of these new supporting characters to die horribly so the writers have a reason to keep the core group intact. On the whole it was passable. Not too hard to accomplish after the anticlimax that was the season three finale. I hope Gimple hits the ground running or I may not bother finishing this season.

Modifié par Seagloom, 20 octobre 2013 - 12:11 .

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I just watche 30 Days last night. Don't know a few of the minors, but it was good to see some zombie chopping again

[MegaSovereign]

Loling at the swine flu angle. The writers are running out of ideas.

[spirosz]

So how far have they strained from the actual comics? I only watched till half way into season 3 and I lost interest.

[MegaSovereign]

spirosz wrote...

So how far have they strained from the actual comics? I only watched till half way into season 3 and I lost interest.

I haven't read the comics but from some light internet research season 2 and onwards has been very, very loosely based on the comics. It's not actually a reliable source in terms of finding out in advance which characters will die and when.

[David7204]

I watched the first episode of the new season today at a friend's insistence. Never seen it before.

I was very disappointed.

The lady telling the girl that she's weak and has to be strong is the dumbest attempt of writers clumsily trying to show how dark and mature their story supposedly is I can recall. And that really immediately brought everything down for me.

Modifié par David7204, 21 octobre 2013 - 09:11 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

David7204 wrote...
The lady telling the girl that she's weak and has to be strong is the dumbest attempt of writers clumsily trying to show how dark and mature their story supposedly is I can recall. And that really immediately brought everything down for me.

Which lady and which girl?

[David7204]

The lady with the shortish grey hair and the little blonde girl whose dad got zombified.

Modifié par David7204, 21 octobre 2013 - 09:20 .

[MegaSovereign]

simfamSP wrote...

Carol. And yeah, that line was stupid. Though it kind of fits with her character: she lost her child and saw her as a Walker. Kinda ****s you up. Didn't ruin anything for me though, there are always stupid lines in every story.

As for this season, I feel it's gonna go slow and build up towards the end much unlike the seasons before it.

Well yea. If Sophia knew how to defend herself she might have had a better chance of surviving. I think this is why Carol really wants to teach the children how to use a knife.

[GreyLycanTrope]

MegaSovereign wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Carol. And yeah, that line was stupid. Though it kind of fits with her character: she lost her child and saw her as a Walker. Kinda ****s you up. Didn't ruin anything for me though, there are always stupid lines in every story.

As for this season, I feel it's gonna go slow and build up towards the end much unlike the seasons before it.

Well yea. If Sophia knew how to defend herself she might have had a better chance of surviving. I think this is why Carol really wants to teach the children how to use a knife.

That's what I'm thinking. As clumsy as that line was I see it as a means to emphsize her characterization and growth over the course of the story instead of show trying to proclaim itself as edgy . Carol is drasticallly different from her comic counter part, who is overly reliant on others very much to her own detriment.

[fr33stylez]

Why does everyone sleep with the cells unlocked (but with curtains!)? How could that possibly be a good idea, zombie or not?

[Bugsie]

simfamSP wrote...

Carol. And yeah, that line was stupid. Though it kind of fits with her character: she lost her child and saw her as a Walker. Kinda ****s you up. Didn't ruin anything for me though, there are always stupid lines in every story.

As for this season, I feel it's gonna go slow and build up towards the end much unlike the seasons before it.

I thought of it as a bit of a nothing line really.  It didn't register as clumsy because it was in keeping with her character and with her trying to pass on knowledge to the most vulnerable.  It shows she's also made a shift from a character who would have sheltered a child from such knowledge to realising that in order to protect them they have to know.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 22 octobre 2013 - 03:13 .