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[David7204]

Except they don't 'have to know' because the idea that a child is 'weak' for not being able to knife their own dad is just utterly ridiculous on so many levels. The writers might as well had held up a sign saying "Look how dark and mature we are!!! Eight year old girls have to kill their fathers without hesitation because that's how super-duper mature the world of the Walking Dead is!!!! Aren't we so dark and mature lololol?"

The entire premise is a tremendous insult to anyone who's ever expressed grief in a dangerous situation because it's calling them weak as well. It's also a slap in the face to anyone who recognizes where the 'strength' the lady was talking about actually comes from.

It doesn't help that the characters didn't come across as particularly smart to me to begin with. It looks to me like about a dozen or more people got zombiefied before an alarm was finally raised?

Modifié par David7204, 22 octobre 2013 - 05:41 .

[HiddenInWar]

I like whats happening so far this season (although it kind of took a back seat to american horror story: coven), but I hope (soon) that they expand to a new location that isn't the prison. I know that in the story arc from the comics, the prison was the one location the survivors spent the most time from. But here's hoping the governor comes back and riles things up.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Ahaha David's asinine assertions never fail to amaze.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 22 octobre 2013 - 09:48 .

[MegaSovereign]

David7204 wrote...

The entire premise is a tremendous insult to anyone who's ever expressed grief in a dangerous situation because it's calling them weak as well. It's also a slap in the face to anyone who recognizes where the 'strength' the lady was talking about actually comes from.

TWD is post-apocalyptic so morality constantly clashes with self-preservation. It can't be a tremendous insult to people in the real world because you can't apply the same context.

Also, different perspectives on how to approach the new environment are shown throughout the TWD series. The writers have been fairly balanced in terms of showing the pros and cons of applying pre-apocalyptic morals in a post-apocalyptic setting. I don't think you can take what Carol says/thinks and make it the central theme of series because that just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't help that the characters didn't come across as particularly smart to me to begin with. It looks to me like about a dozen or more people got zombiefied before an alarm was finally raised?

A lot of the people in the prison were from Woodbury. They're use to other people handling the walker threat.

[Bugsie]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Ahaha David's asinine assertions never fail to amaze.

Why is anyone even taking his comments seriously and replying?

He's seen one friggin' episode and he's an expert on the story and characters?

*cue rolling eyes*

[GreyLycanTrope]

Buggirl70 wrote...
Why is anyone even taking his comments seriously and replying?

He's seen one friggin' episode and he's an expert on the story and characters?

*cue rolling eyes*

You're right, the less said the better.

While we're on the subject of the little girl Carol interacted with however I'm suspecting the sister will be getting the axe somehow thanks to the sabatour in the prison, this scenario seems a little bit simlar to a different one. Those of you familiar with the comics might remember a different pair of sisters living in the prison, Susie and Rachel Greene.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 22 octobre 2013 - 11:36 .

[Addai]

David7204 wrote...

I watched the first episode of the new season today at a friend's insistence. Never seen it before.

I was very disappointed.

The lady telling the girl that she's weak and has to be strong is the dumbest attempt of writers clumsily trying to show how dark and mature their story supposedly is I can recall. And that really immediately brought everything down for me.

Yeah, the writing isn't good. You kind of have to turn your brain off and enjoy it as an action flick. Bright side, most of the characters are going to die horrible deaths at some point.

Honest Trailers is accurate.

[Bugsie]

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, the writing isn't good. You kind of have to turn your brain off and enjoy it as an action flick. Bright side, most of the characters are going to die horrible deaths at some point.

Honest Trailers is accurate.

It certainly isn't the best written, average at best, but it does have it's moments and those moments are gold.  Also, when the option is the Walking Dead or yet another stupid and pathetic reality series - I'll take the Walking Dead over the Brain Dead anytime.

[MegaSovereign]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, the writing isn't good. You kind of have to turn your brain off and enjoy it as an action flick. Bright side, most of the characters are going to die horrible deaths at some point.

Honest Trailers is accurate.

It certainly isn't the best written, average at best, but it does have it's moments and those moments are gold.  Also, when the option is the Walking Dead or yet another stupid and pathetic reality series - I'll take the Walking Dead over the Brain Dead anytime.

Amen. It may not be a work of art but I do get my action fix from it.

[fr33stylez]

simfamSP wrote...

fr33stylez wrote...

Why does everyone sleep with the cells unlocked (but with curtains!)? How could that possibly be a good idea, zombie or not?

After 30 days without an incident you tend to lose your gaurd. It's totally understandable, no one other than the clinically insane can remain paranoid every day.

It's never implied that they ever locked the cells systematically at any time they've been in the prison. So it shouldn't be a case of simply losing your guard after 30 days.

And I'm sorry, the setting of the show is post-zombie apocalypse - taking precatuions is common sense, and has been demonstrated consistently in the series up until now. I don't consider locking your cell as you sleep paranoid, just like I lock my car or house as I leave it.

We know people turn as they die, so if old man Hershel decides to kick the bucket (forget the flu), we'd have a zombie running around eating people at night. I've been willing to suspend my disbelief watching this show but having every prison cell unlocked swung open while you sleep is pretty stupid and a contrived plot point.

[fr33stylez]

simfamSP wrote...

It's never implied that they ever locked the cells systematically at any time they've been in the prison. So it shouldn't be a case of simply losing your guard after 30 days.

And I'm sorry, the setting of the show is post-zombie apocalypse - taking precatuions is common sense, and has been demonstrated consistently in the series up until now. I don't consider locking your cell as you sleep paranoid, just like I lock my car or house as I leave it.

We know people turn as they die, so if old man Hershel decides to kick the bucket (forget the flu), we'd have a zombie running around eating people at night. I've been willing to suspend my disbelief watching this show but having every prison cell unlocked swung open while you sleep is pretty stupid and a contrived plot point.

You're right (WHAT?! I know! A BSN member admitting to being wrong? xD) But I still choose to empathise with them. I could go and make a speculative assumption of these mistakes being confined to that one area, but it's a pretty silly leap to make given the information we're given.

I still feel that after months of this nightmare, people want to sleep without fear. Which is silly, of course, but people do stupid things like this all the time: it's hardly uncommon. One could even go to the point and argue its more human than any reasonable and practical manouver.

In this case, it's obvious that they needed the **** to hit the fan. Personally, I would have written it so that the entire area was locked and that they (black dude and white chick) left the door open foolishly. Now, how exactly would the **** hit the fan with the rest of the cells being locked? Simple - It wouldn't. There was no need for a zombie attack within the prison when there are so many opportunities for it to happen later on.

As for the writing, I think it's good. Not Breaking Bad good, but a solid 7/10 from me. Of course, you cannot compare it to literature since those dudes have all the time in the world and no visual medium to work with other than their imagination. If the writers didn't need to edit out their work so that it'd fit 45 minutes, I think it'd do a better job. TWD has its ups and downs when it comes to its writing: there are some amazing scenes like Rick and Shane's confrontation...and then there's Carol's "your weak" line. So far, the only season that's ever disappointed me was the second half of 3.

Yes, I appreciate your honesty. For what it's worth I really enjoyed last week's episode.

[stonbw1]

^ is there any evidence that either one has ring experience? I don't recall anything in the show. Therefore, its just a street brawl. I don't know what the actors' real life dimensions are, but it does seem a bit skewed toward Tyresse.

I thought this last episode (and this season generally) has been good, not great. The zombie scenes have improved, but the show still suffers from atrocious acting and a fledgling storyline. I hope that we see the gang leave the prison soon, if only to keep the story fresh.

[The Love Runner]

I really, REALLY, wanted to share this:

[Naughty Bear]

Rick had the advantage, snuck in a cheeky shot while Tyreese was held down. Caught him off-guard and layeth the smacketh down.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 30 octobre 2013 - 01:29 .

[stonbw1]

Galactic Runner wrote...

I really, REALLY, wanted to share this:

That's neat.  It makes me recall why I started watching the Walking Dead: the ever-present threat of being discovered/eaten by Zombies.  The scene on the street where everyone hides under cars and don't make a peep while the zombie horde walks by unknowingly is great t.v.  These days, they just walk around in the woods, taking a stroll with little fear of zombie attack, : "Oh no...I see a Zombie...I'll walk over to it and stab it in the temple with this butter knife..problem solved."

I miss those moments of dread that rarely appear anymore. 

[stonbw1]

I thought Sunday's episode was pretty decent. Some good dramatic moments and none of the sappy relationship mumbo jumbo. This really sets up next week's throwdown when everyone finds out Carol was kicked out by Rick. I hope Daryl puts an arrow right between his eyes!! Rick annoys the ****** out of me. Generally, the season has been pretty good.

[Giant ambush beetle]

I bet Rick is gonna lie about Carol, he'll tell them she confessed to killing the two sick group members and took off to avoid or judgment and punishment or something like that. He'd be and idiot if he said the truth, it would probably split and further weaken the group which has become pathetically weak.

I think its kind of funny how Rick gets rid of all the characters that show leadership capabilities like he feels threatened in his position. Shane gone, Carol kicked out etc, only the yes-men that do not question his quasi-dictatorship and decisions remain. 

Modifié par The Woldan , 06 novembre 2013 - 05:53 .

[Addai]

They've gone back to moody talking mode. Things always get stinky when they try to do that. They're better at hacking zombies mode. And Rick picked up the stupid ball this week. The previous week, it was Daryl, pulling a Lori by not watching the road. Don't drive distracted in the zombie apocalypse.