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The Walking Dead Official Discussion Thread (Season 1, 2, 3, and beyond! OP updated with season 4 content)


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Man this series just confuses me. It's a comic, it's a show, it's a game, next it'll be a movie and a novel and a manga and a presidential candidate.


It's already got a novel, actually. The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury -- which has a few minor contradictions with the game, like what Lilly Caul's dad is named. In the book, it's Ray Everett Caul. In the games, it's Larry Caul.

Also, I'd vote for it if it was a presidential candidate.

Lazengan wrote...

All she does is hate the governor for no apparent reason, and is an established badass without any explanation.


She doesn't trust him. And frankly, why would she? Why would anyone? The living are the most dangerous things in a zombie apocalypse. It brings out the worst in people.

Let's see what happened...

Well, she was held at gunpoint by one of the Governor's henchmen -- Merle, in fact.

She had to decapitate her boyfriend and his best friend -- the two Walkers -- just to try and remain hidden, and had she not done that the Governor probably would've killed them anyway.

The Governor comes back from a journey with a whole convoy of vehicles and some more weapons -- at the expense of a lot of bullets being fired, which really made me facepalm -- and all of those vehicles have bullet holes. With fresh blood oozing out of them.

And he feeds her some bull**** story.

Then there's his agenda where he's trying desperately to keep them all there despite their protests and has them under constant watch.

And his journal which descended from a sane man's thoughts into a madness mantra after the death and subsequent reanimation of his daughter -- or niece, if it holds true to the comics.

At least Michonne managed to keep her head on straight when she lost her boyfriend.

Her not trusting the Governor is in fact a very solid thing. She's been given no reason to believe that the Governor and Woodbury are as trustworthy as they should appear to be. 

And I'm sorry, but I didn't realize a person -- in a zombie universe -- was required to give their whole life story, in the middle of an apocalypse when you don't know who you can trust, just to make the people who read/see her feel better about her character.

Especially when for the longest time, this person has been on their own for the whole time.

It's even worse in the comics, she's just an angst mary sue and author's pet. Kirkman goes on bull****ting about how "anyone can die" and kills Glenn to prove a point. Garbage, he won't dare touch Michonne at all.


So because you hate her and wish her dead, Robert Kirkman is automatically at fault because he's not catering to the people that want her dead?

It's true, anyone can die. But the story has to call for it. Death and drama for the sake of death and drama does not make good writing.

It's the opposite.

Brockololly wrote...

Yet I cannot stand her and so desperately want her dead on the show. TV Andrea is literally nothing like her comic counterpart.


I'm beginning to despise TV Andrea myself, because she's just... well... coming off like an idiot. I was hoping she'd wise up in Woodbury after her time with Michonne.

But... now I think she's just going to remain the same old dumb blonde who can kick ass.

Lazengan wrote...

The governor seems like a very charming man who keeps his inner devils locked away


So it's okay for the Governor to not talk about his past, but Michonne is required to talk about hers?

That seems like a double standard.

And not everyone is trustworthy just because they're not obviously insane. Thomas Richards, for instance, fooled everyone because he came off as not being a threat.

Sure, the Governor's charming. And maybe he's not insane like his comic variant.

That doesn't mean I'd trust him. He's still suspicious.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 29 novembre 2012 - 04:56 .


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^ I think the one thing that really pushed Michonne over the edge with the Governor was him taking her katana, and displaying it in his cabinet. Really dumb move, Gov'nor.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:42 .


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Part of me is wondering if the girl Andrea was on the wall with is going to be Lilly

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Can we talk about how much better this show has gotten ever since what's his face who cares was fired?

Because, my faith has been restored completely and utterly.

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This episode was pretty intense.

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I thought Maggie was gonna get raped by someone for sure, if not the Gov, then he'd send in Merle or something.

Also, RIP random crazy hobo. Have no idea how you made it this long, but whatever. The cut to a KFC commercial right after it showed him getting devoured was ****ing priceless BTW.

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welp, really hoping Rick and them save Glenn and Maggie, and that Andrea dies from friendly fire.

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Pious_Augustine wrote...

welp, really hoping Rick and them save Glenn and Maggie, and that Andrea dies from friendly fire.


Why you hate Andrea, Other then she's a stupid ****?

Also, I'll be shocked if everybody makes it out in one piece. I'm guessing Merle's gonna get crossbowed by Daryl "Best Character On The Show" Dixon.

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I think Merle and the Governor are going to come to blows once the Governor sees Michonne is alive. Add Daryl into the mix and I think Merle's certainly going to either: A) defect to Rick's side or B) be shot by the Governor, causing Daryl to feel conflicted over his own loyalties.

Or do A which will lead to B, minus the Daryl bit.

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Was hoping they would finally fight the governor this episode but guess I'll have to wait till next week. Since Rick is a complete badass now (Him putting the machete in that prisoners head was one of the best scenes in the series rofl) I'm hoping he deals with the governor personally... Since it seems Lily wont be in the TV series, then again this is a what was it? 16 episode season so I guess anything could happen

But yeah Daryl killing Merle and Rick killing Governor is what i'm hoping for. Then taking over Woodbury and becoming its new overlords - Doubt that will happen though.

As long as Glen, Daryl, Maggie and Rick are alright throughout the series idc about anything else though really

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I think Merle and the Governor are going to come to blows once the Governor sees Michonne is alive. Add Daryl into the mix and I think Merle's certainly going to either: A) defect to Rick's side or B) be shot by the Governor, causing Daryl to feel conflicted over his own loyalties.

Or do A which will lead to B, minus the Daryl bit.


I doubt he'll be able to defect to the Ricktatorship, what with how Glen and Michonne would react.

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Alternatively, Merle will kill the Governor and take control.

Though I'm wary of that being the case, as that would reduce the Governor to being less of an antagonist then he originally was.

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Do you think they'll find the room or his daughter next week? I've got a feeling it'll be Andrea who stumbles upon those skeletons in the proverbial closet... or should I say, Walkers...

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Well, on Talking Dead they showed a preview where we see Michonne finding the Governor's daughter -- if that's even what she should be called now.

Andrea will either:

1) find the Walker Head Aquarium
2) See her old group
3) Find Glenn and Maggie.

She says in the trailers for next week's episode "I saw them".

Alternatively, "I saw them" will be reduced to her just going "I saw the intruders" and being more ****** Andrea

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Alternatively, "I saw them" will be reduced to her just going "I saw the intruders" and being more ****** Andrea


That's what I'm thinking. And she'll probably shoot one of them, and by one of them, I mean the black guy AKA New T-Dawg.

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brettc893 wrote...
I thought Maggie was gonna get raped by someone for sure, if not the Gov, then he'd send in Merle or something.

It was just an intimidation tactic. Completely logical.

Of course a better course of action would have just been to play good cop against Merle's bad cop but hey what do I know.

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GodWood wrote...

brettc893 wrote...
I thought Maggie was gonna get raped by someone for sure, if not the Gov, then he'd send in Merle or something.

It was just an intimidation tactic. Completely logical.

Of course a better course of action would have just been to play good cop against Merle's bad cop but hey what do I know.


Good narrative is what you know. This show has gotten better, and I like it no doubt, but it has a looooooong way to go.

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There's one person I hate more than Andrea. The Talking Dead guy who breaks in with his chirpy pitch right after some highly dramatic moment. I HATE that. There's not even a second of warning so I can hit the fast forward.

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Addai67 wrote...

There's one person I hate more than Andrea. The Talking Dead guy who breaks in with his chirpy pitch right after some highly dramatic moment. I HATE that. There's not even a second of warning so I can hit the fast forward.


Chris Hardwick? He's a cool dude, TERRIBLE stand up comic, but funny in more casual situations.

That said, I agree. He's ruined more then one tense or heavy moment, but is that his fault or the network's? It's the same deal with those "10 Facts" things they have on for 4 seconds, once an episode that no one who isn't half cyborg could possibly have time to read.

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Brockololly wrote...

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Michonne... I wanted to like her character.  How can you not like a black woman with a sword.  But she's just Scowly McGrumpypants.  I dunno, she could still be redeemed, and she's probably the only hope for this season.


Yeah... if they follow how she even sort of is in the comics, she should open up a bit more now that she's with Rick and company and become a little more like an actual character other than a scowling version of Daleface.


She's more or less like she appears in the comic book -- an underdeveloped character with an emphasis on badassery. I don't think I understand why Michonne is so liked in the comic book; she's had dozens of issues to be developed and has only very rarely dropped the 'silent badass' act.

I admit I am a bit biased though; I prefer the show over the comic.

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XxDeonxX wrote...

Was hoping they would finally fight the governor this episode but guess I'll have to wait till next week. Since Rick is a complete badass now (Him putting the machete in that prisoners head was one of the best scenes in the series rofl) I'm hoping he deals with the governor personally... Since it seems Lily wont be in the TV series, then again this is a what was it? 16 episode season so I guess anything could happen

But yeah Daryl killing Merle and Rick killing Governor is what i'm hoping for. Then taking over Woodbury and becoming its new overlords - Doubt that will happen though.

As long as Glen, Daryl, Maggie and Rick are alright throughout the series idc about anything else though really


lol I think I feel the same way. those are my favourite characters from the show.

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Hmm... to spoiler or not to spoiler, that is the question! Because there are a few things I know about upcoming episodes.

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She's more or less like she appears in the comic book -- an underdeveloped character with an emphasis on badassery. I don't think I understand why Michonne is so liked in the comic book; she's had dozens of issues to be developed and has only very rarely dropped the 'silent badass' act.

I admit I am a bit biased though; I prefer the show over the comic.


As far as the show goes, she's a very shrewd and intelligent person, knowing that in this world information is power. She knows more about the current situation then she'll let on, and that's a good move on her part. Giving away too much or too little would be detrimental to her survival. She knows just how much she should tell strangers.

In addition, she's been on her own since the whole thing began, so there are going to be some trust issues. She's not going to just tell her life's story to anyone. She needs to trust them completely -- the exact parameters of what would be grounds for her to trust someone completely I don't know, as she didn't tell Andrea much over their 7-8 month romp in the woods.

You can glean a bit more insight into who she was/is from The Walking Dead: Michonne's Story. It details her journey back to her house and it's really not anything new, but it does give some insight into her mind during the early stages of the zombie outbreak and ever since then.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 29 novembre 2012 - 05:24 .


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Eh, what the hell I'll spoiler some things: Tyreese is slated to appear, Milton might die, and somewhere in Season 3 Morgan Jones from Season 1 will pop up again -- either in the flesh or through the walkie.

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It's quite strange seeing this darker Rick. I'm not sure if I like it too be honest.

Michonne should of smacked him back when he grabbed her wound.

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Dark Rick's a good rendition. Shane's actor once commented on his proposed idea for how Shane should've died -- which I personally liked more then how it did play out -- and in it, he said that what happened was sort of Shane trying to get Rick to be the man he has to be in this world while still keeping what tethers him to reality. A balanced mix between Shane and Rick, whereas Shane was almost entirely... well... Shane.

It's a shame it was shot down by the writers, because it works so well for Season 3's Rick. Though I still like to believe it's there, even if not quite how Jon Bernthal wanted it to play out.

Here's Jon's version

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 02 décembre 2012 - 04:26 .