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[Augustei]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dark Rick's a good rendition. Shane's actor once commented on his proposed idea for how Shane should've died -- which I personally liked more then how it did play out -- and in it, he said that what happened was sort of Shane trying to get Rick to be the man he has to be in this world while still keeping what tethers him to reality. A balanced mix between Shane and Rick, whereas Shane was almost entirely... well... Shane.

It's a shame it was shot down by the writers, because it works so well for Season 3's Rick. Though I still like to believe it's there, even if not quite how Jon Bernthal wanted it to play out.

Here's Jon's version

Damn that is a way better version.. I wish I never heard it because now i will be forever wishing thats what happened.

[TEWR]

Yup. And it also shows how Shane has sort of... grown tired of this dynamic he's in. That he's almost to the point of giving up, and so he feels he can help Rick while also helping himself.

[TEWR]

I'm... not really a fan of tonight's episode. It started off great but when it got to Andrea... well...

 Andrea's still being reduced to the idiot she's been throughout the season -- and arguably the entire series -- and Oscar's been killed off by a shotgun blast when it didn't look like a hunting shotgun -- rather, it looked like a shotgun whose bullets spread out and only function at close range.

She's such a great character in the comics, from what I've been led to believe. To change her into a moron just... sucks.

Oscar's death really seems to serve no purpose other then to add pointless drama. Am I to believe that a short-range shotgun could kill a man covered by a smokescreen when he was really far away. Nope, not buying it.

If you're going to kill off a character, do it right. Make it... I dunno... logically done.

On the other hand.... Tyreese is in the mix. And the Michonne-Governor confrontation was well done.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 03 décembre 2012 - 02:43 .

[addiction21]

A shotgun can be loaded with a solid shot. Something a bit more accurate at longer range it neednt be a hunting shotgun.

Bit ya pointless drama. "Its a battle so someone needs to go down and who better then the new guy" sadness.

I didnt see the deathmatch coming and I also hate this mid-season finale bull****.

Modifié par addiction21, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:01 .

[TEWR]

A shotgun can be loaded with a solid shot. Something a bit more accurate at longer range it neednt be a hunting shotgun.

Hmm, this one didn't strike me as being capable of being loaded with long-reaching ammo from what I saw of it. Granted, I didn't see the entire scene so I don't know what type of shotgun it was. Only that it was a shotgun. And still... managing to shoot the guy through smoke when he's far off? It just... comes off as too lucky and as I said, too pointless.

I liked how Rick saw Shane though. That was pretty awesome. And how the Governor was pissed at Merle once he remembered Merle said "Michonne's dead" to his face.

I didnt see the deathmatch coming and I also hate this mid-season finale bull****.

I'm not so sure it's going to be a deathmatch. They're both weaponless and branded as terrorists, so a deathmatch wouldn't really help them. They'd still be executed afterwards, no matter who won -- either because Daryl's one of them or because Merle's a liability.

No, I don't think a deathmatch is what the Governor's doing. I think he's going to do a straight up execution. 

And I'm not a fan of the mid-season finale either.

Also, they better not kill off Merle or Daryl. Not when the former has so much potential right now and the latter is just ****ing awesome.

EDIT: Merle won't die. In the previews, Glenn says "What the hell is he doing here?!" drawing a gun on someone. It's obvious Merle won't die.

So now Daryl needs to live.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 03 décembre 2012 - 04:00 .

[Leo]

Phew, at least Maggie and Glenn made it out alive. Now I'm hoping that Merle and Daryl make it out alive.

The Governor and Michonne running into one another was the best part of this episode.

[addiction21]

I would happily sacrifice them all to the gods of drama to keep Daryl safe.

[TEWR]

Pious_Augustine wrote...

Now I'm hoping that Merle and Daryl make it out alive.

Merle won't die. In the previews, Glenn says "What the hell is he doing here?!", drawing a gun on someone. It's obvious Merle won't die because he's with Rick. 

I imagine Merle will try to bury the hatchet now that the Governor's betrayed him, albeit begrudgingly. Maybe he'll work with them up to a point and desire to take over Woodbury for himself and leave the group of his own accord.

EDIT: Daryl will live. He's in the woods in the previews for the next episode with his crossbow.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 03 décembre 2012 - 06:03 .

[TEWR]

Sneak peak of The Suicide King, episode 9 of TWD

Cast and crew talk about the second half of the season

In light of the second video where Daryl's actor says the group behind them is chanting "To the Death!" -- among "Kill them!" and "Die!" and other things -- then I can see a deathmatch happening now.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 04 décembre 2012 - 06:00 .

[TEWR]

These last two episodes have been pretty awesome.

[Leo]

The Governor is such a punk.

Kind of lousy that the prisoners were introduced only to get killed, I'm also really surprised that the last prisoner was the only casualty of the Governor's retaliation attack.

[Rins]

I hope Andrea will die, i hate this character, and honestly too much talking still dunno why ppl so much love this tv show (dont hate me fanboys ><)

[HiddenInWar]

Rins wrote...

I hope Andrea will die, i hate this character, and honestly too much talking still dunno why ppl so much love this tv show (dont hate me fanboys ><)

Andrea is great, and I actually like the woodbury plotline over the prison one just a little bit. 

[Dream]

Tonights episode was the best one of the season imo.

[Boiny Bunny]

Is it just me - or does anybody else think that Season 3 has been a bit weak so far (compared to Season 1/2)? I think it's just the fact that the human versus human drama is a little boring. The characters no longer feel like they are desparately struggling for survival - even though the writers continue to come up with more and more obscene excuses for a 5 minute zombie outbreak-shootout scene in every episode where some (generally) minor character gets killed off.

[Dream]

Well, tbh, this whole series (both the comic and the show) has never really been about the zombies - it's more about the people, and, like you said, human versus human drama.

I've always felt like this season is a big improvement over S2's slow pace.

Modifié par improvisionist, 04 mars 2013 - 05:12 .

[Boiny Bunny]

improvisionist wrote...

Well, tbh, this whole series (both the comic and the show) has never really been about the zombies - it's more about the people, and, like you said, human versus human drama.

I've always felt like this season is a big improvement over S2's slow pace.

Well, I guess it's a matter of interpretation.  I found S1 and S2 to depict a serious struggle.  Even the fact that they were relatively safe on the farm was just dumb luck relating to the river muck.  In S3, the zombies have no way into the prison or Woodbury, unless one side releases them upon the other.

I definately agree though, that the core focus of the show is people drama - but again, my interpretation of S2 say, was one of a build up of extreme tension over morally grey decisions, and it's eventual explosion into violence and chaos.  I thought it was done very well, even though the first few episodes were quite slow.

In S3, I just don't feel like there is much tension between the characters in the respective camps.  There is plenty between the camps - but the only way in which we see it play out is gun fights and releasing zombies upon one another, which is quite different to the S1/S2 approach.

That said, with Merle in the prison, and Andrea genuinely confused about her loyalties, things are likely about to get a lot more interesting! 

[Leo]

improvisionist wrote...

Tonights episode was the best one of the season imo.

Agreed, really enjoyed the episode.

[Shepenwepet]

^same here, although that may be due to my complete adoration of Lennie James.

[TEWR]

simfamSP wrote...

I hope Merle lightens up. I remember the good ol' days of Season One where Daryl was the biggest ****** around... that all changed

He will. He tried to bury the hatchet with Michonne and is trying to get the group to accept him, mainly because he found his brother again but also because he has nowhere else to go -- and might very well die on his own.

He even had a nice moment with Hershel where they talked about the state of the world, time with family among other things, literature (particularly the Bible), and finally where Merle warned Hershel of what the Governor was really like.

He'll probably still be a bit abrasive and Merle-ish to the group, but I think they'll come to (begrudginly) accept him. Glenn and Maggie probably will take the longest to grow accustomed to him, followed by Michonne.

I think it's just the fact that the human versus human drama is a little boring

As was said, that's always what the Walking Dead has been about. And that's the nature of this world in not just TWD, but arguably in any real depiction of a zombie world. I don't really count the movies made about zombies because they tend to just... be really badly written about dealing with zombies.

Zombies are just obstacles, mindless things that get in the way at times and can be a real pain on some occasions depending on numbers, but they aren't the real threat.

Humans are what you really do need to worry about. With the fall of society comes the fall of what tethers people to being decent people. A world filled with monsters inevitably creates monsters in the living. 

Lee Everett said it best: We're all monsters now.

improvisionist wrote...

Tonights episode was the best one of the season imo.

Agreed. I was moved to coming close to crying a bit by the Rick-Morgan scenes. I really hope Morgan joins them at some point though. He'd prove an asset to the group in terms of defending the prison from Walkers.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 05 mars 2013 - 01:03 .

[BadExamp1e]

simfamSP wrote...

Rins wrote...

I hope Andrea will die, i hate this character, and honestly too much talking still dunno why ppl so much love this tv show (dont hate me fanboys ><)

My favourite character. Total lad.

[stonbw1]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

Is it just me - or does anybody else think that Season 3 has been a bit weak so far (compared to Season 1/2)? I think it's just the fact that the human versus human drama is a little boring. The characters no longer feel like they are desparately struggling for survival - even though the writers continue to come up with more and more obscene excuses for a 5 minute zombie outbreak-shootout scene in every episode where some (generally) minor character gets killed off.

Yes, I think this season has been a bit weak.  The writing weak and the acting has creeped backward like it was in season 1.  To me, the story line with rival communities is played out.  But then again, the intra-group emotions and relationships are generally so poorly written (and acted), those are hard to swallow too.  I guess at the end of the day...bring on the zombies. 

[Addai]

I think I'm not going to ever like this show, even though we still watch it. I don't hate it, I just don't care about anyone. The whole story line with the Governor has gone nowhere as far as I'm concerned. I don't like him, I don't hate him, don't find him at all interesting. Andrea is annoying as hell and I'm afraid they're not going to kill her off after all. She should have stuck a knife in the guy's cranium after the second episode with him, but nooo, we're subjected to their fauxmance STILL.  Even Michonne couldn't kill him.  Everyone is on the edge of being idiotic.

I don't know why the Telltale game can have made me mostly suspend disbelief and care about the characters, but I've given far more time to the TV series and I could care less if they all get eaten. Except the baby I guess.

Modifié par Addai67, 05 mars 2013 - 08:09 .