288 réponses à ce sujet

[AdmiralCheez]

Xilizhra wrote...

Then just remove Synthesis as a presented option altogether if it's not going to be treated in the same manner or better.

I might.  We'll see.  This is all in the planning stage, so virtually anything goes.

BACK ON TOPIC.

[Steelcan]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Then just remove Synthesis as a presented option altogether if it's not going to be treated in the same manner or better.

I might.  We'll see.  This is all in the planning stage, so virtually anything goes.

BACK ON TOPIC.

. Destroy is niceB)

[CosmicGnosis]

I think Destroy can be completely justified, but its "fanbase" has tainted it with petty vengeance and appalling philosophy on the nature of synthetic life. Destroy is the plebeian choice. That doesn't make it inherently bad, but I disagree with most of its supporters.

Which is a shame. It really does have its merits. A galaxy completely free of overlords for the first time in billions of years. There's something very satisfying about that...

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 15 octobre 2012 - 12:22 .

[Steelcan]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I think Destroy can be completely justified, but its "fanbase" has tainted it with petty vengeance and appalling philosophy on the nature of synthetic life. Destroy is the plebeian choice. That doesn't make it inherently bad, but I disagree with most of its supporters.

Which is a shame. It really does have its merits. A galaxy completely free of overlords for the first time in billions of years. There's something very satisfying about that...

. There are several good reasons to pick destroy.  "Petty vengeance and the nature of synthetic life" are not amount them. That said, I think there is a valid argument for synthetic life being very dangerous, not inherently so, but still dangerous

[Iakus]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Which is a shame. It really does have its merits. A galaxy completely free of overlords for the first time in billions of years. There's something very satisfying about that...

And that's why I picked it.

Though I would have preferred ending it by saying "It's over because we say it's over, now get the hell out of our galaxy!"

[CosmicGnosis]

Arcian wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I think Destroy can be completely justified, but its "fanbase" has tainted it with petty vengeance and appalling philosophy on the nature of synthetic life. Destroy is the plebeian choice. That doesn't make it inherently bad, but I disagree with most of its supporters.

Which is a shame. It really does have its merits. A galaxy completely free of overlords for the first time in billions of years. There's something very satisfying about that...

And suddenly, all of the ancient, hidden horrors kept at bay by the Reapers are now free to feast on the remains of the galaxy.

Yeah, I've considered that. I haven't settled on an ending yet, even though I finished the game in March. It's really frustrating...

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 15 octobre 2012 - 12:35 .

[StarcloudSWG]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Whether it would have worked or not is left up to the reader.  In the fic, Shepard's going to say no.*  I'll be sure to keep Harbinger's** points very valid--he's offering the whole thing as a compromise.  He could have been telling the truth, but in this instance Shepard doesn't believe him.

*I considered including branching dialogue, but it's too much of a damn headache for one person writing a fanfic.

**In the fic, the Catalyst is going to be an inanimate object.  It does not control the Reapers, but rather serves as the central node in their communication/relay network.  A weak point, if you will.  This part's fuzzy, I know, but I'm working on it.  Need more in-game research and writing details and stuff.

It almost out and out tells you that's what it is, in the game. It claims to be the collective conciousness of all the Reapers, instead of 'just an AI'. But it is 'just an AI', as it still hasn't been able to break free of its purpose.

The implication, though is that in order for it to be the 'collective consciousness' that it claims to be, it must be the central communications and processing node for the Reapers.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 15 octobre 2012 - 01:43 .

[Obadiah]

Positive reason to pick Destroy: Shepard just doesn't trust the Catalyst. Shepard should have had an option to respond to the Catalyst similar to Dredd to Ma at the end of that last movie that came out: "Really? It's going to destroy every AI everywhere? That's ********, **** you!"

[Sauron001]

[quote]AdmiralCheez wrote...

[quote]Xilizhra wrote...

**In the fic, the Catalyst is going to be an inanimate object.  It does not control the Reapers, but rather serves as the central node in their communication/relay network.  A weak point, if you will.  This part's fuzzy, I know, but I'm working on it.  Need more in-game research and writing details and stuff.
[/quote]

I agree with this, I do not believe the Catalyst actually controls the Reapers. Harbinger and his fellow Reapers act as Independent identitys that carry out an Objective. Even if the catalyst were to tell them to do something else what is to say they won't disagree and continue with their Harvest. The view on shepard is that of soomeone in defiance of their destiny and nothing he can do will change it unless the reapers were to be destroyed.

Under synthesis i really don't agree that the Reapers would just leave unless alll organics have ascended which is unlikely apart from unicorns and Rainbows but control is another story. 

Control just seems like a benevolent dictator that may help but many would still rise up for many reasons (Lack of true free will with huge reapers enforcing the "Law")  Sheparinger would still use indoctrination to quell rebellions or even harvest certain groups if it would keep the peace. I would really like to see a future under the control of a Shepard and Harbinger who did the fusion dance

Thoughts?

[Baihu1983]

The Catalyst says the survivors can re build/fix stuff so could they not just bring back A.I like Edi?

[The Night Mammoth]

Dead Reapers. Living Shepard (for the non-******). Completely free of any negative Reaper influence. None of the risks or feijhua you find in other two endings.

[clarkusdarkus]

Destroy is the only option, killing the reapers was the only goal from the beggining and the geth/synthetics are nothing more than a sacrifice of robots of which we can build robocop's again. None of the confusion either from the other endings. Quite simple really.

[ManiacG]

-now lets see, the reapers are gone, no more of their cycles guaranted.

-its the only ending that fits shepards viewpoint somewhat.

-we get a fresh start

-with the reapers you also kill the star brat (enourmus pluss)