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[Taboo]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Fun Fact: Synthesis shows Keiji Okuda revived trough his memories.

In other news my MA means nothing against the might of such nonsense.

[jtav]

My goal is, always, to stop the enemy aggression. Killing something should never be an end in itself, just a means.

[MegaSovereign]

o Ventus wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Fun Fact: Synthesis shows Keiji Okuda revived trough his memories.

Please don't start that now. I've had a rough day.

One more story!

[Taboo]

Why can't we give love that one more chance?

[Eterna]

My goal was sexy Harbinger/Shep BDSM.

There is a lot of erotic potential in Control, therefore I picked it.

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Why can't we give love that one more chance?

The last time I tried that, it made the Cruible fire some gross-looking green thing.

[AvaCousland]

I choose destroy because from an RP perspective, I can't understand why my Shepard would choose another option. Control and synthesis, at that point in time, seem too risky because the outcomes are unknown. Destroy is the only one that will definitively end the threat of the Reapers. Shepard is a risk taker but not at this level. Not when trillions of lives are riding on the outcome.

Metagaming, I actually like synthesis. It's a fairly happy, golden age ending. I just never choose it for the reasons stated above.

[Iakus]

jtav wrote...

I’ve noticed a disturbing trend on BSN. Those who choose Destroy frequently make their case by attacking the other endings. If the best you can say about your ending is that it’s “least bad” what kind of case is that? Why should I shoot that pipe? As a pro-ender who has chosen all three main endings with one Shep or another, I’ve been nearly completely turned off Destroy by the attitude if its supporters. So, I want to make a positive case for Destroy for my own sake and for those like me.

The premise that the synthetic/organic conflict will inevitably lead to extinction is questionable at best. Peace on Rannoch and EDI’s arc contradict it from a narrative perspective, and this is a story after all. Synthetics and organics can be reconciled, while Shepard must ultimately choose between the salarians and krogan. And no one is suggesting Reapers to solve that.

All life, synthetic and organic, has the right to make their own future. There's no need for AI gods or altering all life everywhere. The freedom can be abused, but it's the inalienable right of all sapient life. In a strange way, Destroy preserves the dignity of synthetic life. In just war theory, the principle of double effect states that you can take an action that will lead to civilian or allied casualties as long as the act isn't evil in itself and you have a proportional reason. Given that the Reapers will destroy all life in the galaxy, even the massive number of synthetic casualties meets that test. The thing is, I would say the same if any other race was on the chopping block. So, in a perverse way, Destroy affirms synthetic of equality.

And we are finally free of the Reapers. When the relays are repaired, we will have to do that on our own. Which means that we will finally truly understand the technology we use. No more will the growth of civilization be guided by a malevolent hand. It could backfire, but see what I said about the right of sapient life. It’s radical, terrible freedom, but it’s ours. We’ve seen what happens we a civilization depends on Reaper tech: stagnation. They become lazy and incurious. Destroy allows—forces—civilization to grow up. With any luck, we’ll see increased cultural and technological diversity bow that the cycle is gone.

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This is why I choose Destroy.  It's the only one that allows the galaxy to truly find its own path.  Over and over through the trilogy we've seen technological shortcuts lead to disaster.  the relay network and I suspect other artifacts found over the centuries are all part of a trap, an easy path to keep the races from innovating and devloping along their own routes.  By rejecting and destroying the Reapers, the galaxy becomes truly free to develop on their own.  To stand or fall on their own choices.

Of course, the death of the synthetics absolutely sucks.  Makes the ending practically not worth it (not to mention Shepard stupidly walking into the explosion)  It strikes me as a purely arbitrary tragedy, especially since at no point does the Catalyst mention Reaper code being targetted.  Still, the rest of the galaxy is truly free, which to me makes it the "least bad" of the endings.

[clennon8]

Gonna be blunt, but maybe not as blunt as I want to be. Choose what ever bleeping ending you want jtav. But don't expect everyone to rally around you and respect your bad choices.

[MegaSovereign]

clennon8 wrote...

Gonna be blunt, but maybe not as blunt as I want to be. Choose what ever bleeping ending you want jtav. But don't expect everyone to rally around you and respect your bad choices.

Destroy is pretty much the most popular ending anyway....

[CosmicGnosis]

Jtav, I completely sympathize with this interpretation. I've been struggling with all three choices because I can make a compelling case for and against all of them. Thus, I have yet to choose my canon ending.

[clennon8]

Eterna5 wrote...

My goal was sexy Harbinger/Shep BDSM.

There is a lot of erotic potential in Control, therefore I picked it.

I think this is the first time I liked something you said.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

MegaSovereign wrote...

BSN should not influence your ending choice.

BSN actually did influence my choice. I chose opposite of what people here approved of.

It's not quite that simple, but something like that.

[UrgentArchengel]

Speculations for everyone.

[clennon8]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BSN should not influence your ending choice.

BSN actually did influence my choice. I chose opposite of what people here approved of.

It's not quite that simple, but something like that.

Heh.  I was just about to post that I think a lot of the pro-Synths are basically contrarians.  Thanks for confirming.

[Marauder_Pilot]

 Starchild has a point. Synthetic life is always causing ****. This has happened before, and it will happen again and all that wonderful stuff.

Besides, by the time I got there, the only AI left was EDI. I'm sure that even EDI would agree that her life is worth saving the galaxy. Besides, she was created from a VI base, and it's entirely possible that there were backups that may have escaped destruction-rebuilding her isn't out of the question.

As for the Geth, **** 'em. They're just like the Rachni, every time they say they're going to go off and live in peace or some****, they always turn up causing **** again, whether they're controlled by someone or doing it of their own accord. 

[Bill Casey]

jtav wrote...

If the best you can say about your ending is that it’s “least bad” what kind of case is that?

Lesser of evils is the only case anyone should be making about the FVT ending...
Otherwise, they are disturbed sociopaths...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:03 .

[clennon8]

I feel bad about sacrificing the geth, but there's something to what you just said. Basically, every geth you've ever seen (outside of Legion) has tried to kill you, and they keep allying themselves with the Reapers. Yet so many people are like "Oh, the poor geth. I feel bad for them. I'ma gonna kill the quarians." Doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

[MegaSovereign]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BSN should not influence your ending choice.

BSN actually did influence my choice. I chose opposite of what people here approved of.

It's not quite that simple, but something like that.

Wow way to shoot yourself in the foot there.

Now anytime you defend your ending choice your credibility will be a lot lower.

Or maybe people won't care as much I think.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:00 .

[clennon8]

Don't worry. He had zero credibility anyway.

[CptBomBom00]

I will always shoot the freaking tube, because 1. I don't want everyone to be the same, you know peace loving things, 2. I never wanted to control the Reapers, not worth of being fried, 3.refuse, you refuse doing little evil( that's if you count geth as alive beings) so everyone can survive, there fore Destroy only does it for me, yes Shepard survives(what? man can dream), yes he will probably tell Liara what he had to do to end the cycle, well at least Javik approves it.

[Bill Casey]

pirate1802 wrote...

-Yes. Chose Synthesis. Lesser of the three (or four) evils IMO. Also my Shepard was a paragade, 70% paragon 30% renegade. She had a renegade streak. If she saw something that needed to be done, she'll do it regardless of whether its the most popular choice or if she would be reviled as a monster.

And she is happy to let the galaxy to remember her as a horrible monster till the end of time, if that means she saved the galaxy without commiting genocide or subjugating it to dictatorship.

I found a synthesizer I can respect...
I can cross this one off the scavenger hunt...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 14 octobre 2012 - 01:08 .

[Iakus]

Bill Casey wrote...

jtav wrote...

If the best you can say about your ending is that it’s “least bad” what kind of case is that?

Lesser of evils is the only case anyone should be making about the FVT ending...
Otherwise, they are disturbed sociopaths...

And in my case "least bad" is the case of "someone who only did one full playthrough, the endings were so awful"