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I did not disagree with spawn-nuking being an exploit. I only disagree with the statement that you should not remove one, because the other still exists. If Bioware changes the spawn mechanics in a future update so that they are not predictable anymore, your point would be moot and you'd suddenly be ok with the removal of FBW exploiting?[quote]
You are making a circular argument... The spawn mechanics is a method to prevent the player frustration of having a whole enemy spawn on top of a group of players and being completely over run. I beleive your point is that FBW was an exploit... How is using cover an exploit? You still got/get banged by whole host of enemies no???
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I did not say that it's the game's responsibility to always give me what I want, but it's the game's responsibility to give me something that is not broken/exploited.
If I get the desire to play a particular map/enemy type and can't find a game for that, I may very well host one, why not? My point is that I'm fine with any map and any faction, but not with a glitched map. It's a totally different thing. I'd happily play an FBW/G/G game with you, now after the DLC.
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See here it is again... "A glitched map" in your opinion it was glitched because it violates some unwriiten rule that RGL style is the "legit game". It is an overtly elitist attitude, period. Why should you care and if, as you say, you could start your own room than how was that exposing you to some hardship?
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That data was very old and released only a few weeks after the FBW exploit became well-known. I'm pretty sure the numbers would've been much higher two weeks ago. Nevertheless, it's only an indication that FBW was played more often than anything else, even if you statistically only count the original 6 maps, and there was a reason for that.
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There are 12 maps to chose from one fo which had cover... Why all the activity the last two weeks that so bothered you??? Maybe it had to do with the fact people heard about the new DLC and were just stacking up credits for the release of new characters? Most probably....
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I would never say my style is superior to anyone else's (apart from the fact that I play different classes differently anyway). You are also insinuating that I spawn-rush, which I do not, at least not in a way I'd consider exploiting (e.g. of course I go to where I believe enemies to be, if I'm feeling confident).
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I never insinuated you spawn rushed... BUT if you don't like camping then you fall into the RGL no??? Your comments suggested you like to run and gun because this is a "legit" game to you or have I totally missed your point??? The comments of "legit" game you made clearly points that out... Agreed???
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This is not what happened. They fixed an obvious exploit. I don't understand how you totally agree to FBW having been an exploit, yet attribute the changes Bioware made to people like me, who are looking for legit games. They fixed it because it was a bug that got out-of-hand, to the point where I (on xbox in Europe) had a hard time finding a non-FBW game on Gold (I'd estimate only 1 in 5 being elsewhere or U), and never managed to find one on Platinum – never ever.
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Whoa there hoss... I don't agree that camping on FBW was an exploit... It was a legitimate strategy that worked period.
The game mechanics have totally changed how can you argue aginst that??? I mean even taking cover to regen shileds and have a quick look about the map are now a high risk behavior... The new factions and elements are put there to push you out of cover how can you disagree with that???
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Yes, Gold is hard, I'm not on a high horse and claim that everything is too easy for me. In fact, when I started MP, I barely made it to Wave 7 or 8 on Bronze. I just got better, nothing wrong with that.
I'd never ridicule someone who rather plays on Bronze or Silver than Gold or Platinum. The difficulty levels are there for a reason.
I understand that what you actually mean is that FBW farming made it easy for low-level players to quickly rack up credits to buy packs. True, but this does not mean that the exploit allowing that should be kept in. There were other exploits enabling you to rack up insane amounts of credits, and those were even bannable offenses.
If your point is that there should be a faster way for low-level players to get better gear, then yes, you have a point. The solution to your point can't be a glitched map, though.
My point is that to all the problems you cite, there are solutions that do not involve exploiting. Game too hard now – then there should be difficulty levels between Bronze and Silver, and/or between Silver and Gold. Can't get money fast enough – Introduce special packs that make it more likely to get the gear you want (e.g. an "all weapons", "all characters", etc.. pack).
After all, if the FBW glitch hadn't been in there in the first place, do you really think anyone would have ever started a thread saying "Hmm, please Bioware, add a map where I can just sit behind a counter and win every time" or do you think people would rather have suggested direct fixes for the problems they are having, rather than an indirect fix provided by a game glitch.[/quote]
It all boils down to your first reply and your view FBW was an exploit and it is not how "legit players play... I happen to totally disagree with the oringinal premise you stated...
You had 11 other maps to play. BW introduced the challeges which on its own should be enough incentive for players to explore other maps and different game strategies...
The changes are in my opinion punitive in nature and wholly uncalled for...
By the by... I only played FBWGG if I didn't have at least one friend on line.... Other than that it was FBWGP, I mean why farm for half the credits for the same amount of time???
So now the Plat lobbies are full of RGL spawn rushers... I find this a completely boring and ultra monotinous way to play... So yes, the game changes have impacted me in a negative way... Now it's my turn to complain about the way you choose to play your game... A little off putting isn't it??? Who am I to decide how you play your game??? Who are you and BW able to take a morally superior position and claim you have the right to address my playing style with punitive measures???
If your neighbor decides to use briquets in his gas grill, would that be reason enough to change gas grills so he couldn't put briquets in?????
You see my point??? One mans delicacy is another mans poison. You have sooo may options to avoid a FBW lobby it is just ridiculous to say Campers ruined the whole game for you...
Modifié par ReverendBeast, 14 octobre 2012 - 05:18 .
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