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[JShepppp]

Man dat Scion. It looks like something out of Resident Evil. Can synch kill, has an insane artillery missile launcher of a shoulder cannon, has a vicious melee, and looks ugly to boot. Though I'm sure if Leon tried to kick it he'd be knocked off the map into the Vanguard Glitch zone.

Even my mighty Kroguard was getting his shield gate hit in one shot on Gold. Is there any enemy that has a weapon that fires a more powerful bullet? Geth Prime shots, Atlas shots, Phantom hand blasters, Cerberus/Geth Turrets, Dragoon gold whips (lash/smash or something?), Geth Pyros, Ravager artillery fire, Brute b*tch slaps, and even that one beetle Praetorian thingy's guns don't take down my Kroguard's shields in one shot.

A salvo from a Scion can kill much faster than any other enemy gun, I think. Or am I just imagining it?

[Inabstract]

I feel the Cerberus turret kills me much faster.

[kil_edward93]

It's not just you.
They blast through my Paladin's 5K point shield in seconds.

[CitizenThom]

The three shot burst is enough to drop most characters on bronze, and they travel faster than an Atlas's rocket, which usually takes at least two rockets to kill you. So yes, the Scion's gun is the most powerful enemy gun in the game as far as DPS goes.

[Riot Inducer]

nope nothing matches the scion's cannon of doom, it'll shield gate a full durability/fitness Krogan Sentiel on Silver. That's full dealth if all 3 of their shots hit, which given that they stagger everyone is a pretty real possibility when you get hit with the first shot.

Personally I think they should be tuned down to Geth Prime or Ravager levels as it's a bit absurd how powerful scions are atm when you take into account their cannon, health, sync kill and cluster grenades when possessed.

[whateverman7]

it's up there....along with the prime's gun, rocket trooper's rockets, phantom's palm cannon, and turrets

[WestLakeDragon]

The balance point to Scions is they don't absorb much punishment. If you can get in close (not too close, they DO have a rare instant kill), just punch some Piranha or Reegar in it's face(s?) and it'll drop pretty quick.

[Ledgend1221]

WestLakeDragon wrote...

The balance point to Scions is they don't absorb much punishment. If you can get in close (not too close, they DO have a rare instant kill), just punch some Piranha or Reegar in it's face(s?) and it'll drop pretty quick.

We're talking about the same scions right?

[whateverman7]

WestLakeDragon wrote...

The balance point to Scions is they don't absorb much punishment. If you can get in close (not too close, they DO have a rare instant kill), just punch some Piranha or Reegar in it's face(s?) and it'll drop pretty quick.

that's not neccessary...the thing is slow...just stand behind cover or move around it and shoot it....especially shoot the humps on its back, cause once they explode, it takes more damage; kinda like a ravanger

[Shrakelle]

3 hits = death. I would say that makes it the strongest.

[Tallgeese_VII]

whateverman7 wrote...

it's up there....along with the prime's gun, rocket trooper's rockets, phantom's palm cannon, and turrets

I think Scion`s gun is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay up there compared to everything else you mentioned.

[Knight_Quack]

I think nothing is more menacing than a possessed scion.

[Mahrac]

whateverman7 wrote...

WestLakeDragon wrote...

The balance point to Scions is they don't absorb much punishment. If you can get in close (not too close, they DO have a rare instant kill), just punch some Piranha or Reegar in it's face(s?) and it'll drop pretty quick.

that's not neccessary...the thing is slow...just stand behind cover or move around it and shoot it....especially shoot the humps on its back, cause once they explode, it takes more damage; kinda like a ravanger

It also deals less damagee for each sac poped

[SexyGeth]

I'd say the Cerberus's portable Swiss cheese maker is the most damaging.

[Cyonan]

It's the hardest hitting thing per shot, though I do feel like the Cerberus Turret can drop me faster if I run into one accidentally.

For reference, base damage(before difficulty modifiers) of the Scion is 800.

The Phantom is 250, the Ravager is 400, and the Nemesis(previous hardest hitting per shot) is 700.

[mark197205]

It definitely is, 3 shots would down a full barriered Kroguard on Bronze, unless you add a cyclonic mod then you'll be left with that last sliver of health.

[BridgeBurner]

mark197205 wrote...

It definitely is, 3 shots would down a full barriered Kroguard on Bronze, unless you add a cyclonic mod then you'll be left with that last sliver of health.

Krogan with cyclonic IV (easily over 3200 shields) gets dropped in 3 hits on gold too. Which is officially stupid. WHats the point in having 40% DR, and 3k shields if they don't mean anything? I feel as flimsy as a geth engineer does if one of their silent cannon blasts strikes me when I don't know its coming.

[whateverman7]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I think Scion`s gun is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay up there compared to everything else you mentioned.

reason i think they are on the same level is cause they all have pros/cons, but they all do roughly the same amount of damage...

[mark197205]

Annomander wrote...

mark197205 wrote...

It definitely is, 3 shots would down a full barriered Kroguard on Bronze, unless you add a cyclonic mod then you'll be left with that last sliver of health.

Krogan with cyclonic IV (easily over 3200 shields) gets dropped in 3 hits on gold too. Which is officially stupid. WHats the point in having 40% DR, and 3k shields if they don't mean anything? I feel as flimsy as a geth engineer does if one of their silent cannon blasts strikes me when I don't know its coming.

Its not entirely silent, I've heard what sounds like a quieter version of the Acolyte firing sound just before getting hit, that was when it was me attempting a solo on Bronze so I know it couldnt have been a team mate firing one that I'd heard.
But you're right, they do way to damage.

[VGFM]

Yes, it's definitely the most powerful enemy gun. The only reason why the Cerberus Turret can sometimes kill quicker is because it has a higher rate of fire and thus it skips past the shield and health gates on higher difficulties more quickly than the Scion's gun does, but since the Scion's gun usually staggers it's a pretty moot point - once you get hit by the first bullet it's almost a guaranteed drop, both for you and for whoever's unfortunate enough to try to get you up..

[polymphus]

I don't think I've been shot by a scion yet. They move so.





incredibly.







slowly.







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they're.


















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avoid.

[Brakensiek]

I have gone down plenty of times on silver from two hits by these things, and that's on a Turian Havoc after using a stim pack that is set up to give maximum durability which doesn't make sense to me. Once that first shot hits you it's all over.

[JumboWheat01]

Even my fully defensively spec Kro-Sen feels the pain from a Scion gun on Bronze. But, they move so slow and have such a long cool down between shots, that I think it kinda makes up for it.

Now to try a Vorcha against them... "LOW HEALTH?! NO! I REGEN! RAWR!"

[CitizenThom]

polymphus wrote...

I don't think I've been shot by a scion yet. They move so.


incredibly.


slowly.


that.


they're.


really


easy


to


avoid.

Then you've been lucky enough to always see them in the distance. They snipe like Geth Prime. Their three shot burst fires faster than a Prime's. It travels faster across the screen than an Atlas rocket or a Banshee Warp, so there isn't as much time to dodge the next two shots after the first one hits.

That said, I've found the hump on their back can actually be targetted by powers... I overloaded the hump more than a few times last night.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 14 octobre 2012 - 07:23 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

CitizenThom wrote...

polymphus wrote...

I don't think I've been shot by a scion yet. They move so.


incredibly.


slowly.


that.


they're.


really


easy


to


avoid.

Then you've been lucky enough to always see them in the distance. They snipe like Geth Prime. Their three shot burst fires faster than a Prime's. It travels faster across the screen than an Atlas rocket or a Banshee Warp, so there isn't as much time to dodge the next two shots after the first one hits.

That said, I've found the hump on their back can actually be targetted by powers... I overloaded the hump more than a few times last night.

My guess is some other poor teammates had to deal with Scion because somebody was avoiding it.