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[macrocarl]

Murdering people is kind of extreme. I mean there's also a lot of that already in the series....... Maybe handle it more like a Paragon option to yell at her or something instead?

[Taboo]

The news already says Petrovsky is the bad guy and that you're doing this for Aria. What's so difficult to understand about this?

Choices were never really mattered in DLC before. Petrovsky is more than likely just another goon to be killed.

And before I forget the War Assets you gain from the DLC are from Aria, as seen in the Firefight DLC. They were embedded in there. A whole fleet...from Aria. Furthermore dialogue exists POST taking in back. No Petrovsky.

If you don't like it don't buy it. The DLC is already in the debugging state as stated on Twitter, at least that's the implication I got from one of Gamble's tweets.

[Urdnot Amenark]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The news already says Petrovsky is the bad guy and that you're doing this for Aria. What's so difficult to understand about this?

Choices were never really mattered in DLC before. Petrovsky is more than likely just another goon to be killed.

And before I forget the War Assets you gain from the DLC are from Aria, as seen in the Firefight DLC. They were embedded in there. A whole fleet...from Aria. Furthermore dialogue exists POST taking in back. No Petrovsky.

If you don't like it don't buy it. The DLC is already in the debugging state as stated on Twitter, at least that's the implication I got from one of Gamble's tweets.

Petrovsky is actually important to the lore of Mass Effect, if you remember his role in Aria's exile during the events of Invasion.

[Taboo]

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Petrovsky is actually important to the lore of Mass Effect, if you remember his role in Aria's exile during the events of Invasion.

And? Is he more important than Aria? I dare say he isn't.

You do know that you're fighting Dragoons and a new unit that looks like a male Phantom?

Don't you think it would be a bit contrived to fight all of those troops and then turn on Aria?

[DextroDNA]

I just want to bang her.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Petrovsky is actually important to the lore of Mass Effect, if you remember his role in Aria's exile during the events of Invasion.

And? Is he more important than Aria? I dare say he isn't.

You do know that you're fighting Dragoons and a new unit that looks like a male Phantom?

Don't you think it would be a bit contrived to fight all of those troops and then turn on Aria?

It's incredibly contrived.

It's still a narrative railroad though. Maybe I don't want to side with Aria. Maybe I want to be on Cerberus side (the side that hasn't completely lost its marbles anyway).

[Taboo]

From a narrative standpoint Aria would be considered more important. Petrovsky was set up to be the villain in the comics if you look at it from a DLC perspective.

He isn't doing a damn thing for humanity by occupying Omega. If he's as smart as everyone says he is he'll step down without fighting.

It isn't about who controls Omega.

It's about the war you're fighting.

[jtav]

Killing her is a bit much, but I'd pay an extra $5 for the option to cause Petrovsky to defect. And I'm not above taking petty revenge by lowballing my EMS and blowing up Earth (and the rest of the galaxy) a few times if things go how I fear.

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

Killing her is a bit much, but I'd pay an extra $5 for the option to cause Petrovsky to defect. And I'm not above taking petty revenge by lowballing my EMS and blowing up Earth (and the rest of the galaxy) a few times if things go how I fear.

Don't you think blowing up the Earth is a bit much just because Bioware doesn't give you what you want? It's a game.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From a narrative standpoint Aria would be considered more important. Petrovsky was set up to be the villain in the comics if you look at it from a DLC perspective.

He isn't doing a damn thing for humanity by occupying Omega. If he's as smart as everyone says he is he'll step down without fighting.

It isn't about who controls Omega.

It's about the war you're fighting.

And he knows that as well. Omega has no strategic value. It's litterally just a floating rock that happens to look like a jellyfish.

And he's with Cerberderp. He's going to be the badguy because SuperMac and friends want him to be.

I do call it wasted potential. And watering down of an RPG. The fault lies with the writers for pretty much everything.

[Xilizhra]

jtav wrote...

Killing her is a bit much, but I'd pay an extra $5 for the option to cause Petrovsky to defect. And I'm not above taking petty revenge by lowballing my EMS and blowing up Earth (and the rest of the galaxy) a few times if things go how I fear.

And how do you fear?

[Taboo]

fiendishchicken wrote...

And he knows that as well. Omega has no strategic value. It's litterally just a floating rock that happens to look like a jellyfish.

And he's with Cerberderp. He's going to be the badguy because SuperMac and friends want him to be.

I do call it wasted potential. And watering down of an RPG. The fault lies with the writers for pretty much everything.

The fault lies with the people choosing who they like. You're doing this for Aria. For the benefit of all.

Petrovsky's fleet would be REALLY useful if you can talk him down.

Best case scenario for me? Achieving a situation similar to Rannoch. Get Aria AND Petrovsky. She can have Omega, he can...defect and not be stupid anymore.

[Seifer006]

could careless whether she's killed or not.

I rather have the option of Liara being killed

[Xilizhra]

Seifer006 wrote...

could careless whether she's killed or not.

I rather have the option of Liara being killed

You know, you still can get Liara killed.

[fiendishchicken]

Xilizhra wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

could careless whether she's killed or not.

I rather have the option of Liara being killed

You know, you still can get Liara killed.

SuperMac gets butthurt about it. If you take her out, everyone has to go with her. Either by low EMS destroy or refuse.

[jtav]

Taboo-XX wrote...

jtav wrote...

Killing her is a bit much, but I'd pay an extra $5 for the option to cause Petrovsky to defect. And I'm not above taking petty revenge by lowballing my EMS and blowing up Earth (and the rest of the galaxy) a few times if things go how I fear.

Don't you think blowing up the Earth is a bit much just because Bioware doesn't give you what you want? It's a game.

Considering that a) the Earth I'm living on is quite okay and BW has spent the last 7 months telling me "Not your universe. Not your Shepard" and systematically taking away everything I liked...I call it catharsis.

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

Considering that a) the Earth I'm living on is quite okay and BW has spent the last 7 months telling me "Not your universe. Not your Shepard" and systematically taking away everything I liked...I call it catharsis.

You're achieveing catharsis...by killing people in a game.

A game.

Was it taken away or did it develop in manner you didn't like?

[Xilizhra]

Considering that a) the Earth I'm living on is quite okay and BW has spent the last 7 months telling me "Not your universe. Not your Shepard" and systematically taking away everything I liked...I call it catharsis.

So what is it that you fear?

[jtav]

Petrovsly being turned into a generically evil villain fit only to be killed. He's my favorite EU character, so him turning into a caricature would finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Xilizhra]

jtav wrote...

Petrovsly being turned into a generically evil villain fit only to be killed. He's my favorite EU character, so him turning into a caricature would finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.

It seems more likely to me that the Cerberus forces will be severely damaged or crushed outright by the Collectors, and that Petrovsky will be leader of a tiny remnant that's forced to side with you and Aria.

[AkodoRyu]

While killing may be a bit extreme, I'd like to finally have an option to bi*chslap at least one person who was using my Shep as their errand girl.

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

Petrovsly being turned into a generically evil villain fit only to be killed. He's my favorite EU character, so him turning into a caricature would finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Believe me I hate it as much as you do but I'm not expecting much.

He sounds like a legitimately good guy.

But I don't trust Bioware anymore than I can throw them.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:33 .

[Display Name Owner]

What OP says is true, and it's something that's kind of been glossed over so far. As much as the Illusive Man dabbles in the same kind of criminality, he at least has (or started out with) somewhat 'noble' reasons. Whether he's right or wrong, he at least believes the things he has Cerberus doing is for the long term benefit of Humanity. Aria and her crew engage in bloody, criminal activities for nothing more than power, profit and satisfying her ego.

That said, killing her would only lead to the other underworld figures vying for power, by means of bloodshed. So, as others have said, there would need to be someone else capable of filling her position immediately. Of course, that person isn't going to be any better than Aria. If they are, chances are they won't last long on Omega.

So whilst I'm all for different options, I can live without a choice to kill her, unless it's given in a way which works reasonably given the circumstances of the Reaper War going on. Someone has to be there to put all those mercenaries to good use, after all. Better the devil you know, I suppose. Logically speaking, cleaning up Omega would have to wait until the Reapers are gone. But yes, I'm hoping Aria isn't presented as a 'good guy' in the DLC.

[Falaxe]

Taboo-XX wrote...

jtav wrote...

Petrovsly being turned into a generically evil villain fit only to be killed. He's my favorite EU character, so him turning into a caricature would finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Believe me I hate it as much as you do but I'm not expecting much.

He sounds like a legitimately good guy.

But I don't trust them anymore than I can throw them.

How about we put Garrus in charge? Crimerate would drop nicely...

Modifié par Falaxe, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:33 .

[DeinonSlayer]

The option should absolutely be there. I'd be far more inclined to kill Aria than romance her.