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[ioannisdenton]

what is this????
If you want to kill Aria DO NOT do the quest. it is DLC , it is optional, your SHEPARD does not have to Help Aria

[Taboo]

It would make most sense to me to give Aria Omega back, have her use her resources for the war and recruit Petrovsky as well.

That's far better than simply slaughtering someone because you don't like what they do.

I mean I'm dumbfounded that more people don't want to use BOTH of them.

[ioannisdenton]

and second: Paragon shepard does not kill.
Renegade shepard who actually murders wuould help Aria beacause actually he will gain something. Renegade shepard is not an idiot. He is a pragmatist.

[Taboo]

ioannisdenton wrote...

and second: Paragon shepard does not kill.
Renegade shepard who actually murders wuould help Aria beacause actually he will gain something. Renegade shepard is not an idiot. He is a pragmatist.

I think this has more with people trying to be contrarians rather than real reasons.

[ioannisdenton]

Taboo-XX wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

and second: Paragon shepard does not kill.
Renegade shepard who actually murders wuould help Aria beacause actually he will gain something. Renegade shepard is not an idiot. He is a pragmatist.

I think this has more with people trying to be contrarians rather than real reasons.

There was a Liara hate thread here. People wanted to kill Liara. Yes she does have plot armor. she is a major character. what is wrong with that? why would someone kill Liara? because she finds her unlikeable? then Do not chose her as your squadmate.
People really get over their heads in here.
Absolutely nothing is constructive.
this is why No bioware stuff answers. what is there to say to nonsense threads?

[DeinonSlayer]

Poll here. Let's settle this.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:46 .

[Taboo]

ioannisdenton wrote...

There was a Liara hate thread here. People wanted to kill Liara. Yes she does have plot armor. she is a major character. what is wrong with that? why would someone kill Liara? because she finds her unlikeable? then Do not chose her as your squadmate.
People really get over their heads in here.
Absolutely nothing is constructive.
this is why No bioware stuff answers. what is there to say to nonsense threads?

I agree.

If you don't like what Bioware does don't buy it. I certainly don't want people to spend fifteen dollars and then complain that they don't like how things go.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer for it.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 14 octobre 2012 - 06:52 .

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

There was a Liara hate thread here. People wanted to kill Liara. Yes she does have plot armor. she is a major character. what is wrong with that? why would someone kill Liara? because she finds her unlikeable? then Do not chose her as your squadmate.
People really get over their heads in here.
Absolutely nothing is constructive.
this is why No bioware stuff answers. what is there to say to nonsense threads?

I agree.

If you don't like what Bioware does don't buy it. I certainly don't want people to spend fifteen dollars and then complain that they don't like how things go.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer for it.

At the same time, I'd like to believe I'm paying for something of quality. Much of Bioware's more recent material has not been of their previous quality. 

[General User]

dreman9999 wrote...

General User wrote...

Obviously having General Petrovsky defect and putting him in charge of Omega would be ideal. Unfortunately he's (currently) on the wrong side.

Aria might be a scumbag, but at least she's our scumbag. Only the thing is, Aria doesn't need Omega, she has the mercenary force Shepard put together for her to manage, and she can do that from the Citadel.

Putting the Alliance in command should be an option too.

You think the alliance...As thinned out as it is in this war...WANTS TO HOLD OMEGA?

Omega is one of the most important strategic hubs in the galaxy.  Yes.  I think the Alliance might have a use for that.

[Allison_Lightning]

My Sole Survivor/Earthborn Shepard, who dislikes Aria and is as Paragon as they come would end the Cerberus faction gladly after going through Akuze.

About the only time she and Aria would have a mutual goal. But the option would be kickass and worth splashing out the points on.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

MisterJB wrote...

As the Crime Lord of the Terminus Systems, she deals in murder, extorsion, drugs, slavery, etc. Shepard has killed people for much smaller crimes.

It is a waste of time to expect BW to cater to you know, paying customers.

Or so I've been told.

[Jvolikas]

for $15 we should get the option to kill Aria, sleep with Aria, have Petrovsky defect, put the Alliance in command, blow Omega sky-high...

Oh wait...that implies we get choices. We didnt get any in the $60 game at release besides colors (EC did improve this to be fair), why would we get any in a $15 DLC?

[Barquiel]

Cerberus obviously controls Omega if you don't help Aria (= if you don't play the DLC), and Petrovsky/Cerberus contribute...absolutely nothing to the war effort. Shepard knows nothing about Petrovsky (he could be indoctrinated....like the rest of cerberus), and I guess we're killing most of his troops during the DLC as well. What kind of help do you expect?

Aria probably promises further support for the war if she regains control of Omega. I can't think of a single reason why any Shepard (paragon or renegade) would betray Aria.

[Display Name Owner]

I've been thinking, though - is it even in Aria's interests to reclaim Omega right now? Cerberus and the Reapers are ultimately out to destroy one another, but I got the impression that whilst the war is going on and Cerberus are acting as a destabilising agent, the Reapers are willing to tolerate them. You don't ever hear of Cerberus troops clashing with Reaper forces until the Reapers move to shut down project Horizon. That would explain why they never attack Omega - they want to leave Cerberus be, for the time being.

So, if Aria, who is of no use to the Reapers, succeeds in reclaiming Omega, wouldn't that make Omega a target for the Reapers?

[General User]

Barquiel wrote...

Cerberus obviously controls Omega if you don't help Aria (= if you don't play the DLC), and Petrovsky/Cerberus contribute...absolutely nothing to the war effort. Shepard knows nothing about Petrovsky (he could be indoctrinated....like the rest of cerberus), and I guess we're killing most of his troops during the DLC as well. What kind of help do you expect?

Aria probably promises further support for the war if she regains control of Omega. I can't think of a single reason why any Shepard (paragon or renegade) would betray Aria.

It's more about not letting Aria get into a position where she can betray the rest of the galaxy.  Aria is not an ally, she's an asset.  She needs to be kept powerful enough that she can be of use, but not so powerful that she starts to make moves on her own.

[Taboo]

General User wrote...

It's more about not letting Aria get into a position where she can betray the rest of the galaxy.  Aria is not an ally, she's an asset.  She needs to be kept powerful enough that she can be of use, but not so powerful that she starts to make moves on her own.

And Petrovsky is?

That's a non argument. Aria won't be doing much of anything once the Relays blow up. This is all about Petrovsky being pooed upon.

People are picking favorites.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 14 octobre 2012 - 07:47 .

[Humakt83]

kratos0294 wrote...

I want to have a choice between Petrovsky and Aria.
I'd be really angry if my Shepard had to like Aria, eventhough it doesn't make sense if he is paragon.
Why would he play nice to a crime lord..........?

Shouldn't Paragon Shepard actually be more forgiving? Besides, it is a war for survival against the Reapers, it is not time to turn down help.

Modifié par Humakt83, 14 octobre 2012 - 09:14 .

[Taboo]

Humakt83 wrote...

Shouldn't Paragon Shepard actually be more forgiving? Besides, it is a war for survival against the Reapers, it is not time to be turn down help.

Exactly this!

No sane Shepard would turn them BOTH down.

[General User]

Taboo-XX wrote...

General User wrote...

It's more about not letting Aria get into a position where she can betray the rest of the galaxy.  Aria is not an ally, she's an asset.  She needs to be kept powerful enough that she can be of use, but not so powerful that she starts to make moves on her own.

And Petrovsky is?

That's a non argument. Aria won't be doing much of anything once the Relays blow up. This is all about Petrovsky being pooed upon.

People are picking favorites.

Oh, Gen. Petrovsky is an asset too.  Unfortunately, as of right now, he's an asset for the other side.  Flipping him would be a real boon to the war effort.  Far moreso than setting Aria back up in her own private little Mogadishu.  Especially since Shepard already gave Aria a job that she can do perfectly well from the Citadel.

Modifié par General User, 14 octobre 2012 - 07:57 .

[KotorEffect3]

There is no point into killing aria, she might be a criminal warlord but she is a valuable asset in the reaper war and besides she was about the only thing that brought stability to omega.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Shouldn't Paragon Shepard actually be more forgiving? Besides, it is a war for survival against the Reapers, it is not time to be turn down help.

Exactly this!

No sane Shepard would turn them BOTH down.

Apparently SuperMac thinks otherwise. Cause you know, Petrovsky wears a Cerberus emblem, so he's definitely evil.

[eternalnightmare13]

Kill Aira? I'd rather have the option to blow Omega the eff up with her and all the rest of the scum aboard that ****** hole...

[KotorEffect3]

Humakt83 wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

I want to have a choice between Petrovsky and Aria.
I'd be really angry if my Shepard had to like Aria, eventhough it doesn't make sense if he is paragon.
Why would he play nice to a crime lord..........?

Shouldn't Paragon Shepard actually be more forgiving? Besides, it is a war for survival against the Reapers, it is not time to be turn down help.

An enemy to my enemy is my friend.  The reaper threat demands you take help where you can get it.

[Raizo]

Domecoming wrote...

Killing her would definitely tip the balance of power and create an enormous vacuum in the criminal world. For better or worse.

This.

I have the feeling that Omega is always going a paradise for the criminal element in the ME Universe so you're kind of working with limited options here, you either leave it in the control of Cerebus who uses it for thier own less than noble ideals, leave in in the hands of Aria who has all the rival crime gangs under her control but is content with being lord and master of Omega and keeps all the crime on Omega on Omega or get rid of both and watch some all the rival gangs fight for control and take a gamble on who will be the new ruler of Omega. When it comes to Aria I would prefer dealing with her than someone else although I have never been 100% comfortable doing odd jobs for her ( better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't ).

[ollec92]

The thing people doesn't seem to be considering is what has Petrovsky done to Omega so far. Is there still anything of value to control?