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[Xilizhra]

Actually, they are only born with Biotics because of the "tests" the Protheans did in their primitive days plus add that to the fact the core of their civilization is stationed on one of the largest eezo deposits in the ME universe. Jack's powers were that who rivaled an Asari Matriarch, which is the pinnacle of Biotic Power in Asari society. I wouldn't be surprised if Jack continued to get stronger and surpass that. I hate Cerberus, but for one thing, the Biotic camp was rogue but it served a purpose. Imagine extrapolating the data used to make Jack powerful (And possibly enhancing it) and make it more widespread? Humans would have another massive benefit on their hands.

Jack also matches the power of a particularly talented maiden, that being Liara. I don't think asari matriarchs are inherently that much more powerful.

Well yeah, she's a criminal leader and she organized pit fights, but remember that the only true evil in ME3 is Cerberus. Everyone else, including the Reapers, are either forgiven or could be used as an asset in the war, or just their lives are precious and must be preserved, no matter how many people they've tortured, enslaved, or murdered.

You seem to be excessively bitter. Especially since plenty of Cerberus assets can be used in the war. And hey, saving the base turned out to be a better decision after all; you won there.

Also, I don't believe in irredeemable evil. Quite frankly, I'd have been fine with having Henry Lawson be rehabilitated.

[Massa FX]

YES! Aria must die.
If its a huge boss fight... even better. I very much want that Asari fully deposed from her throne with no chance for recovery.

[spaceboi101]

I would keep her alive because she is the best option for keeping omega from destroying itself from within

[NasChoka]

MisterJB wrote...

As the Crime Lord of the Terminus Systems, she deals in murder, extorsion, drugs, slavery, etc. Shepard has killed people for much smaller crimes.

1) why!? Do we really need the option to kill everybody ? In the next game people might complain why there is no aria ... because some players killed her
2) there is a reaper invasion... maybe this is a little more important. 
3) if she is dead all gangs in omega will fight for control and many innocents will suffer. They should fight the reapers instead
4) MAYBE there is a reason she knows a councilor? 
5) according to your 'she is a bad person so we will her'-logic shep would have to kill a lot of people (thane/assassin; Jack/wanted criminal; miranda+jacob cerberrus operatives) 
6) did you chose destoy? - That was a joke 

[Falaxe]

NasChoka wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

As the Crime Lord of the Terminus Systems, she deals in murder, extorsion, drugs, slavery, etc. Shepard has killed people for much smaller crimes.

1) why!? Do we really need the option to kill everybody ? In the next game people might complain why there is no aria ... because some players killed her

In case you havent noticed: Each players choices have carried to next ME game only affecting their gameplay. I bet you had temporary no-brainer while writing this

NasChoka wrote...
2) there is a reaper invasion... maybe this is a little more important.

Fair point, but if you think theres more important thing to do than taking omega back, you really shouldnt buy the DLC then. Or atleast I wouldnt, if I`d think that way.

NasChoka wrote...
3) if she is dead all gangs in omega will fight for control and many innocents will suffer. They should fight the reapers instead

Good point again, but usually renegade Shepard makes stupid choices.

NasChoka wrote...
4) MAYBE there is a reason she knows a councilor? 

Ye I´m pretty sure too that she has blackmailed the councilor.

NasChoka wrote...
5) according to your 'she is a bad person so we will her'-logic shep would have to kill a lot of people (thane/assassin; Jack/wanted criminal; miranda+jacob cerberrus operatives)

When I finished ME3, Jacob was the only one of those three who was still alive. Mad "take good care of your team" skills

Modifié par Falaxe, 15 octobre 2012 - 08:55 .

[MisterJB]

NasChoka wrote...
1) why!? Do we really need the option to kill everybody ? In the next game people might complain why there is no aria ... because some players killed her

In a RPG, the more choices the better. Just like I took the option to kill Sederis to place Eclipse in the hands of a more stable person, I would like to kill Aria as a step towards extablishing Omega as a beacon of civilization in the Terminus Systems.

2) there is a reaper invasion... maybe this is a little more important.

 
If I play the Omega DLC, I hope to have roleplaying options that pertain to Omega. Killing Aria being one of them.

3) if she is dead all gangs in omega will fight for control and many innocents will suffer. They should fight the reapers instead

Any gang that is in Omega is, clearly, not fighting the Reapers. While it is true that she can serve as a unifying element for those gangs, allowing someone like Aria to have control of an army is something that leaves me quite apprehensive. If we could ensure they keep their guns pointed at the Reapers after Aria's death while helping Oleg Petrovsky, who has both an army and a fleet, extablish a state of law in Omega that will protect the civillians while the gangs canibalize each other after the war, that is the option I would take.

4) MAYBE there is a reason she knows a councilor? 

If I can destabilize the asari government at the same time, all the better.

5) according to your 'she is a bad person so we will her'-logic shep would have to kill a lot of people (thane/assassin; Jack/wanted criminal; miranda+jacob cerberrus operatives) 

Jack is someone I'd like to see in prison, yes. However, Thane, Miranda and Jacob all might have done what is usually considered as "evil", but they did it to protect their respective people. Aria does what she does to feed her greed so, I'm much less willing to forgive her.

6) did you chose destoy? - That was a joke 

Synthesis.

[Ieldra]

I can't say I absolutely need the option to kill Aria, but what I do need is the option to take sides on Omega. Aria is actually much worse than Petrovsky where it counts. She's a crime lord, he's a decent man backing the wrong organization because it was once different. Ideally, I want to make Petrosky defect from Cerberus and join me with his fleet, while Aria gets her station back. But if getting Petrovsky as an Ex-Cerberus asset takes siding against Aria, that will also do.

[Xilizhra]

If I can destabilize the asari government at the same time, all the better.

So I was right, you are pro-human-supremacist. I'm hardly surprised.

[Ieldra]

Xilizhra wrote...

If I can destabilize the asari government at the same time, all the better.

So I was right, you are pro-human-supremacist. I'm hardly surprised.

You don't need to be a human supremacist in order to want the asari taken down a notch. But I do agree more than the Reaper war already accomplishes is not needed.

[EnvyTB075]

If you could do this....can you install that other ex-crime lord boss to take over and turn Omega into something more than Merc paradise?

Xilizhra wrote...

If I can destabilize the asari government at the same time, all the better.

So I was right, you are pro-human-supremacist. I'm hardly surprised.

Just because you want to kick the Asari off their high horse doesn't mean you're a Cerberus sympathiser.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:42 .

[Xilizhra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I can destabilize the asari government at the same time, all the better.

So I was right, you are pro-human-supremacist. I'm hardly surprised.

You don't need to be a human supremacist in order to want the asari taken down a notch. But I do agree more than the Reaper war already accomplishes is not needed.

I can only be thankful that JB's Shepard is completely dead at the end of that game. Such spite is heavily unproductive.

Just because you want to kick the Asari off their high horse doesn't mean you're a Cerberus sympathiser.

Maybe, but he's openly, blatantly a Cerberus sympathizer. Hell, he's tried to justify Teltin.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:42 .

[EnvyTB075]

Xilizhra wrote...
Maybe, but he's openly, blatantly a Cerberus sympathizer. Hell, he's tried to justify Teltin.

It seems i'm missing some context, excuse me while i bash my head in with a lemon for my moment of stupidity.

But my point stands, i'll just do it intellectually, rather than ultra violently....there may be a little violence...

[Ieldra]

Besides, aren't you an asari supremacist, Xilizhra?

[Xilizhra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Besides, aren't you an asari supremacist, Xilizhra?

No. I do favor Thessian culture as a means to spread unity and peace, but that in itself contradicts any notion of species supremacy; to raise one species above others for supposed inherent qualities fosters only division.

[Xilizhra]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'd like to see the asari knocked down a peg, and I'm no human supremacist.

Ah, you're just a single-species speciesist? Congratulations.

[Xilizhra]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I love Asari, love them all.
Need more Asari in this game, more Liara, more Aria and more Shiala.

Hate Batarians though, they need to be taken down a peg or 2.

Erm, they were already crushed by the Reapers.

[wright1978]

kratos0294 wrote...

I want to have a choice between Petrovsky and Aria.
I'd be really angry if my Shepard had to like Aria, eventhough it doesn't make sense if he is paragon.
Why would he play nice to a crime lord..........?

Agree completely, i want choice.

[BatmanTurian]

The Asari technically deserve to be at the top. They are the moderate species, working to keep peace between the species through diplomacy and compromise.

Use some critical thinking, people.

[shit's fucked cunts]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Hate Batarians though, they need to be taken down a peg or 2.

Uncool, they're actually a lot more agreeable when the Hegemony isn't watching.

EDI told me herself.

[Nightdragon8]

Xilizhra wrote...

Killing Aria is like masturbating while intensely lonely: it feels good but it doesn't solve anything. In fact, it's probably worse, given that while Aria is bad, she's a stabilizing influence, and so long as the Council can't act with governmental power to take out the Terminus Systems' criminal power, you'll never pacify the place with a few deaths. Likely, the ensuing power struggle would make the place even worse. The only real way for this to work is in Control and having the Reapers forcibly conquer the Terminus, and even that might not be worth it.

well with the batarens gone I'm sure it will make the place better, I mean they where a speices that encourged slavery. and didn't like the fact that the council was wanting them to stop it.

Kinda sounds like a future version of the Romans or pre civil war America.

[Xilizhra]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

The Asari technically deserve to be at the top. They are the moderate species, working to keep peace between the species through diplomacy and compromise.

Use some critical thinking, people.

I got the humans, turians, krogan, and quarians all working together just fine while the asari sat at the sidelines and wouldn't help because Thessia hadn't been attacked yet.

Not to mention that the asari only gained superioirity by hoarding the knowledge from the Prothean beacon.

Actually, they sent their full fleet support after Tuchanka, it just wasn't marked by a dramatic mission. Also, it's logically impossible for their superiority to have been gained from the beacon, as none of them had the Cipher, and its messages would have been incomprehensible (also, Vendetta would have talked about the Reapers).