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Come on guys can't we all just get along? But seriously I agree with Drummernate on this. 99% of people have trouble on anything past silver, if you play pugs on a regular you will understand. The way the game is now makes it difficult to pull a pug game with 3 average players. Gold should be difficult but not impossible, changing that would really make me consider having gold be friends only.

I do feel for you guys who want a higher difficulty without having to gimp yourselves. But why should many suffer for the few?

easy solution dont play with pugs and buy a **** microphone

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Elijini wrote...

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yours really isn't but saying to quit the game or stop playing bronze is an easy response. Maybe i really like the game. why else would i have over 600 hours in it? 


I think you misunderstood the intent of his message. He's not trying to tell you to go away or anything, he's pointing out that if your experience and skill has grown to the point where the game is mostly trivial to you, thats more of a personal issue for you. To expect BioWare to constantly scale the game to the 1% of players on the absolute cutting edge of the MP curve, is not good game balance or design.

So as he said, if you've reached the point where the game is trivial, and you're not having fun, maybe it is time to try a new game. No one is saying quit entirely, just break it up a bit.


While that is a fair point, why shouldn't Bioware scale higher difficulties such as Gold or Platinum to the 1%? The other 99% of players still have both Bronze and Silver and I am sure some of them could still play Gold.


Sadly they already do to an extent. I dont mind the idea of platinum being more exclusive, but Gold and below should not be catering to the top 1% Why do the top 1% care about gold, if the games that easy, they shouldnt stray from platinum and expect a challenge (note how I worded that, Im not saying they shouldnt be allowed to play lower difficulties)

I mean a lot of people already feel the platinum multiple enemy mode adds a certain novelty to the game, yet have no interest in the ****tiness of grinding through the enemy health totals on that difficulty.

Bioware are already gimping their potential customers through the catering to the top 1% they have done, wouldnt want to make it worse. And if you disagree, look at the forums, its a huge amount of whining about how hard the game is now.

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upinya slayin wrote...

 Ever since banshee magnet grabs were fixed (thank for the BTW) they are complete push overs. w/o the risk of a cheap death you have to actually make a mistake to be grabbed now. It won't randomlly happen from 80 meters away anymore. Brutes are a complete joke, banshees are only a problem if you let them get close enough to 1 hit. cannibals and husks are jokes. ravagers are jokes. The only somewhat threat is maurders and you need a couple of them firing at you anyway. I think buffing the repaers would be a good idea

Also dragoons are a complete joke. I love the way they are agressive and pull people out of cover, but with the slow smash animation and weak armor and thyere 3 shot burst then stop they aren't much of a threat. maybe adding a shield or barrier to them and making them fire a bit more often instead of smashing eveyrhting would help.

on an unrelated note. seeker swarms suck. The fury is horrible against collectors. between seeker swarms stopping your powers, and posessed abominations running into your AF field with low health and killing you it sucks. lol.


I braught this up the other day and fully agree, it is sad that most people want the game to be dull and simple just so they can get crates easier. But who really needs crates if the enemies are so damned simple to defeat.

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WizeMan305 wrote...

Come on guys can't we all just get along? But seriously I agree with Drummernate on this. 99% of people have trouble on anything past silver, if you play pugs on a regular you will understand. The way the game is now makes it difficult to pull a pug game with 3 average players. Gold should be difficult but not impossible, changing that would really make me consider having gold be friends only.

I do feel for you guys who want a higher difficulty without having to gimp yourselves. But why should many suffer for the few?


Again, why should the highest difficulties be doable by just anyone? Even gimping ourselves the highest difficulties aren't challenging enough to cause many fails. Yes the 99% of players should be taken care of, but why does that make them any more important as a consumer than the 1%? There are 4 difficulties currently, why are we not allowed to have even 1 that can provide the proper amount of challenge?

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Elijini wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Elijini wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

yours really isn't but saying to quit the game or stop playing bronze is an easy response. Maybe i really like the game. why else would i have over 600 hours in it? 


I think you misunderstood the intent of his message. He's not trying to tell you to go away or anything, he's pointing out that if your experience and skill has grown to the point where the game is mostly trivial to you, thats more of a personal issue for you. To expect BioWare to constantly scale the game to the 1% of players on the absolute cutting edge of the MP curve, is not good game balance or design.

So as he said, if you've reached the point where the game is trivial, and you're not having fun, maybe it is time to try a new game. No one is saying quit entirely, just break it up a bit.


While that is a fair point, why shouldn't Bioware scale higher difficulties such as Gold or Platinum to the 1%? The other 99% of players still have both Bronze and Silver and I am sure some of them could still play Gold.


Sadly they alreayd to the extent. I dont the idea of platinum being more exclusive, but Gold and below should not be catering to the top 1% Why do the top 1% care about gold, if the games that easy, they shouldnt stray from platinum and expect a challenge (note how I worded that, Im not saying they shouldnt be allowed to play lower difficulties)

I mean a lot of people already feel the platinum multiple enemy mode adds a certain novelty to the game, yet have no interest in the ****tiness of grinding through the enemy health totals on that difficulty.

Bioware are already gimping their potential customers through the catering to the top 1% they have done, wouldnt want to make it worse. And if you disagree, look at the forums, its a huge amount of whining about how hard the game is now.

why do people refuse to understand that platinum just isnt fun and is only used by people that wanna max thier manifests. they do this by camping which bioware doesnt like or by being good enough at which point why do you even need to max your manifest. the majority of platinum players are either completionists or campers

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upinya slayin wrote...

Andreadg89 wrote...

Cannibals are a joke, banshees are a joke, brutes are a joke, and I really hope also this thread is a joke.


its not a joke. why do you say that its a joke?

No, it's not a joke, it's another one of "Look how awesome I am, lol" ego-stroking posts of yours. Cut it out, it's getting tiresome.

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They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D

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They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D

or they could make platinum not stupid

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alhamel94 wrote...

easy solution dont play with pugs and buy a **** microphone


I have a microphone, also I play with friends. Unfortunately we cannot all be as popular as you and have friends at our disposal 24-7. Even though I do appreciate the advice that would only solve my problem, and not everyone elses. Not everyone can play gold, but making it harder will only deminish the gold population further. Bad players that are bad and should feel bad will still be the only pugs you can find. While the more sensible players would have given up in their quest for the gold.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D


I would love that! Bioware, MAKE IT HAPPEN! (what happens when the 99% can't make it past wave 1 though?)

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introduce new enemy tactics in platinum. make enemies work together. centurions deploying smoke to cover pyros and such.

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alhamel94 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D

or they could make platinum not stupid

 

Platinum has its place. I think they could make a single-faction higher difficulty though.

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Slimjim0725 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D


I would love that! Bioware, MAKE IT HAPPEN! (what happens when the 99% can't make it past wave 1 though?)

 

They go back 2 bronze like the n00bs that they are. :P

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WizeMan305 wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...

easy solution dont play with pugs and buy a **** microphone


I have a microphone, also I play with friends. Unfortunately we cannot all be as popular as you and have friends at our disposal 24-7. Even though I do appreciate the advice that would only solve my problem, and not everyone elses. Not everyone can play gold, but making it harder will only deminish the gold population further. Bad players that are bad and should feel bad will still be the only pugs you can find. While the more sensible players would have given up in their quest for the gold.


1 Player should not be able to carry an entire Gold match (which I can). Yes it is a bit of a challenge trying to keep them alive and kill all the enemies at once, but it is still doable which it shouldn't be. If they can't play Gold there is still Silver and Bronze, pay your dues there like the Gold and Platinum players did.

More of the private lobby Gold and Platinum players that frequently beat that those difficulties may come back out to PUGs if 95% of them weren't terrible.

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Again, why should the highest difficulties be doable by just anyone? Even gimping ourselves the highest difficulties aren't challenging enough to cause many fails. Yes the 99% of players should be taken care of, but why does that make them any more important as a consumer than the 1%? There are 4 difficulties currently, why are we not allowed to have even 1 that can provide the proper amount of challenge?


Well gold as it is right now is not doable by everybody. Trust me my last few games can be testimant to that. Uping the difficulty will only discourage sensible players, while those who are credit hungry will continue to litter the lobbies. A new difficulty would be good for you guys, and even so for myself and my friends when we are together but until that happens changing the difficulties to cater to the best would make random games impossible. It shouldn't be that way but people do not know their limits.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D


I would love that! Bioware, MAKE IT HAPPEN! (what happens when the 99% can't make it past wave 1 though?)

 

They go back 2 bronze like the n00bs that they are. :P


Or they jump on BSN, complain it is too hard and get it nerfed (which is why I am trying to make the point that we should be heard as well).

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WizeMan305 wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...

easy solution dont play with pugs and buy a **** microphone


I have a microphone, also I play with friends. Unfortunately we cannot all be as popular as you and have friends at our disposal 24-7. Even though I do appreciate the advice that would only solve my problem, and not everyone elses. Not everyone can play gold, but making it harder will only deminish the gold population further. Bad players that are bad and should feel bad will still be the only pugs you can find. While the more sensible players would have given up in their quest for the gold.

i did not come into mass effect knowing anyone who played the game, i just played with my mic until i made friends, at this point i have 59 mass effect 3 people in my friends list. i play on ps3 the least populated platform so it really shouldn't be that hard.  also in utter sincereity this website was created by people who got sick of playing with randoms, and now have over 800 members across all platforms and in multiple countries and timezones. http://far-me3.enjin.com/ im sure you can find some decent gold players there.

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FYI i'm perfectly fine with leaving them how they are for silver and bronze. buff gold and platinum only

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Slimjim0725 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

They should have a super challenge mode that is almost impossible to beat even for Team Arelex and SPECTRE. :D


I would love that! Bioware, MAKE IT HAPPEN! (what happens when the 99% can't make it past wave 1 though?)

 

They go back 2 bronze like the n00bs that they are. :P



Or they jump on BSN, complain it is too hard and get it nerfed (which is why I am trying to make the point that we should be heard as well).


this. and then we get called elitist trolls. huh.

Modifié par Titus Thongger, 15 octobre 2012 - 05:59 .


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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

Ity's obviously a flamer guys... think aout it first it's argueing then it turned into a troller he/she is enjoying the attention notice that you CANT look at the manifest they have though they claim to have a max manifest?



here is my manifest

http://social.biowar...n&platform=xbox

and it not for attention. I'm doing it to give my opinion on the game. thats what the forums are for

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Slow down the Dragoons, and give them more armor is fine by me. I'd like them to be of a similar difficulty when they are seen and when they are not seen... which means slow them down, but make them tougher.

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upinya slayin wrote...

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Dragoons are stupid, just like this topic. Their general design is just dumb.


why is it stupid? its an upclose smash guard character? we have ex ceberus that were never part of ceberus. why not add them as an enemy?

Ex ceberus never being part of ceberus?  isn't that kinda oxymoronic?
Anyway, I hate dragoons when your trying to do any objective, especially if your solo, as they can run pretty much the map, and stagger you before you can do one objective.
But other then that, just killing them is fun, and i don't think they need a buff. They're still more challenging to kill then a pyro. Which is about its equal.
And for reapers, banshe's warp and ravagers bile/swarmers are still very deadly against charcters with low health, as they ignore shield gate and eat health. And banshees are still really good at forcing you out into the open.
I think they should just play with the collectors a bit, as i find them by far the hardest. All the others seem pretty equal now.

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You used to be a fairly decent poster but now you are just a pompous doosh. Your transformation is now complete. Go ahead and post links to our manifests again so we can all see that yours is maxed and mine isn't, then everyone can see how much more awesomer you are and that I'm just some n00b that shouldn't post because I don't have a YouTube channel with a loyal 12 year old fanbase.

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I agree with the OP. Sorry...

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Ha ha this has been a great thread for free lulz.

Buff the Dragoons are you kidding? They just made Cerberus a lot harder. Also how are Reapers easy? I would say they are probably the easiest of the 4 but by no means are they pushovers.

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