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[upinya slayin]

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

"...[F]ull manifest..."

"...[W]hy else would i have over 600 hours in it?" 

Of the entire thread, this is what caught my attention. I've got over 600 hours as well, but apparently no luck with the RNG store. No where near a full manifest. Do you just play Platinum all the time, then? Speedruns? I know it's way off-topic, but I seriously want to know how bad the store is screwing me over.

lol yes i didn't get close to maxing out my manifest until platinum came out and i started speed running it. i'd make a couple million a night easily.

Its not just hours but its hours + difficulty+ time of game + success rate

you need to play alot of platinum in fast games (under 20 mins) with a hig suckess rate 

[upinya slayin]

Bekkael wrote...

llandwynwyn wrote...

If you think the game is too easy and it's boring you even on Plat, perhaps is time for you to play another game.

Sorry OP, but I have to agree with this. With shieldgate's magical change since the DLC (I don't care what anyone says, I observe the change in every game I play), the game had already gotten harder for the "average Joe" type of player. I'm seeing people downed (even on bronze) all the time, and consumable use for most people has risen radically. You need to realize that you are the 1% of 1% of really good players, and most that play this MP are not.

Here's a quote from my son earlier today after we played a couple of bronze duos, which kinda sums up the level of frustration for a lot of people: "What the....?! BioWare made this game harder again? Screw this, I'm going to play something else."

This game does not need any more difficulty spikes. At all.  

If more difficulty is truly desired, and BioWare wishes to accommodate this, they should make a friendly-fire mode available for those craving an insanity level of gameplay.

maybe i can offer some advice?
what builds are you using?
bronze should be a cakewalk for a decent build. your also playing 2 people short. the difficulty is meant for 4 people so your making it harder on yourself already by doing that.

Using something like a demolisher and arc grenade is pretty much a win button on bronze. a couple of arc grenades on a group of enemies kills them right away. and with the pylon you won't run out. plus bronze grenade boxes are very generous.

i'm more then willing to offer advice fr build and even make tutorial videos for people to help out. but people have to be willing to try. if they don't want to put in time or take advice to get better then what they are, they shouldn't compain its too hard.

ME3 MP isn't halo or COD, thos games require skill in aiming and lining up shots. ME3 can be like that or you can take a power class and not wory about aiming.

[Yajuu Omoi]

upinya slayin wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

Ity's obviously a flamer guys... think aout it first it's argueing then it turned into a troller he/she is enjoying the attention notice that you CANT look at the manifest they have though they claim to have a max manifest?

here is my manifest

http://social.biowar...n&platform=xbox

and it not for attention. I'm doing it to give my opinion on the game. thats what the forums are for

You need to take this in a COMPLETELY joking tone...okay? Because I'm joking...

"You n00b!! you only haz liek, 1130 challenge points! Go back 2 Bronze ya loser!"

^That was a joke.
*see Sig*

lol i'm not chasing any challenge point. i did chase my lone wolf for the banner which only took one night. the rest are cumulative and i'll get by just playing over time. challenge points don't really take skill except for the lone wolf so thats all i wanted. the rest is as meaningfull as N7 which is not at all lol

I know, thats the point of the joke. Most people still think N7 means everything...I have the ones I wanted. Now I'm just playing the way I always have. If I get more banners, sweet, I have Defender, I'm happy.
However, it DOES prompt me to try new things which is cool.

I've been called an Elitist in a lobby already just because I had a banner on...
Didn't know I was cool enough to be one...

[upinya slayin]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

Ity's obviously a flamer guys... think aout it first it's argueing then it turned into a troller he/she is enjoying the attention notice that you CANT look at the manifest they have though they claim to have a max manifest?

here is my manifest

http://social.biowar...n&platform=xbox

and it not for attention. I'm doing it to give my opinion on the game. thats what the forums are for

You need to take this in a COMPLETELY joking tone...okay? Because I'm joking...

"You n00b!! you only haz liek, 1130 challenge points! Go back 2 Bronze ya loser!"

^That was a joke.
*see Sig*

lol i'm not chasing any challenge point. i did chase my lone wolf for the banner which only took one night. the rest are cumulative and i'll get by just playing over time. challenge points don't really take skill except for the lone wolf so thats all i wanted. the rest is as meaningfull as N7 which is not at all lol

I know, thats the point of the joke. Most people still think N7 means everything...I have the ones I wanted. Now I'm just playing the way I always have. If I get more banners, sweet, I have Defender, I'm happy.
However, it DOES prompt me to try new things which is cool.

I've been called an Elitist in a lobby already just because I had a banner on...
Didn't know I was cool enough to be one...

my banner hans't gotten me kicked yet. i've still yet to be kicked by anyone 

[Meistr_Chef]

If I played with a good team from my friends list I have just about no complaints because we can handle it.

Playing with random people, the experience is a lot more variable. Sometimes I get good people and we do just fine. But sometimes it's terrible because it's almost like you have to solo a match - which I cannot do consistently.

The reason I don't like the current dragoon is that if I get downed by one, and no one is near me to help and there are a few of them, they stun me while I'm getting back up and kill me again.

[count_4]

You know, the OP felt kinda strange to read. Didn't know why, but then I saw it:

upinya slayin wrote...
The fury is horrible against collectors.

Yep, you just don't know what you're talking about. Kinda has me wondering - you complain that the Reapers are too easy, yet you find the Fury horrible vs. Collectors - when she's actually one of the best against them.

Are you, by any chance, a silver player?

Modifié par count_4, 15 octobre 2012 - 08:34 .

[Meistr_Chef]

count_4 wrote...

You know, this post felt kinda strange to read. Didn't know why, but then I saw it:

upinya slayin wrote...
The fury is horrible against collectors.

Yep, you just don't know what you're talking about. Kinda has me wondering - you complain that the Reapers are too easy, yet you find the Fury horrible vs. Collectors - when she's actually one of the best against them.

Are you, by any chance, a silver player?

I am upinya slayin's automated reply:

- You suck, and I'm not even that great. I learn from the best all the time.
- I am not a bronze player, check my manifest.
- No really, check my manifest.

[count_4]

Meistr_Chef wrote...

count_4 wrote...

You know, this post felt kinda strange to read. Didn't know why, but then I saw it:

upinya slayin wrote...
The fury is horrible against collectors.

Yep, you just don't know what you're talking about. Kinda has me wondering - you complain that the Reapers are too easy, yet you find the Fury horrible vs. Collectors - when she's actually one of the best against them.

Are you, by any chance, a silver player?

I am upinya slayin's automated reply:

- You suck, and I'm not even that great. I learn from the best all the time.
- I am not a bronze player, check my manifest.
- No really, check my manifest.

Well, then, thanks for the quick reply. 

Also, I just checked his profile - he's playing on console, which explains quite a lot. 

[xandax86]

Dont know about the banshee hands, pretty sure I still got magnetgrabbed. But yeah the dragoon could use an intelligence boost, running at lmg wielding n7 operative really isn't the best idea.

[neroscuro]

Opinions are relative and everyone has at least one.
Mine is that your perception of the game OP is distorted by the fact that you played this game up to soloing Platinum. I have discovered recently that I can solo Gold but I would never ask to raise the difficulty because of that: I can think of beginners having a tougher game all along the 4 levels of the MP. My perception is that 1) the game has increased it's difficulty from the moment I started playing it (passed March). Dragoons are a real threat because they are unstoppable running tanks spamming with Hornet and slash. 2) For beginners there are too much weapon/gears/ and mods in the store before they can get the right stuff to jump to the next level: one thing is to have at least a small group of Rare Weapons at X level to face Gold and another thing is to have a plethora of weapons at I-II level, because of the store system. You should mind this.
A lot of things have been fixed with the last patch: yes, Banshees don't grab you from distance anymore and you can do headshots, but there are stomping cannibals and stomps for all the factions too. However, Banshees are still a threat in small maps because they can teleport near you fast. This shows that balancing can't be done without considering all the maps, otherwise you end up with the mess BW did to counterbalance farming in FBW-FBG.
Consider that you are also asking for a buff and many fixes to other factions, while BW has already promised to fix Geth that have become insane through time just to stop farming. You cannot compare Reapers and Geth as things stand now, so wait at least until they do this. I bet the average difficulty for the other factions would be at Reapers' level (that's just fair)

[SlimJim0725]

@count_4: Oh my, a PC elitest looking down on a lowly console peasant. That is new! (Sarcasm intended)

[kaileena_sands]

Slimjim0725 wrote...

WizeMan305 wrote...

Come on guys can't we all just get along? But seriously I agree with Drummernate on this. 99% of people have trouble on anything past silver, if you play pugs on a regular you will understand. The way the game is now makes it difficult to pull a pug game with 3 average players. Gold should be difficult but not impossible, changing that would really make me consider having gold be friends only.

I do feel for you guys who want a higher difficulty without having to gimp yourselves. But why should many suffer for the few?

Again, why should the highest difficulties be doable by just anyone? Even gimping ourselves the highest difficulties aren't challenging enough to cause many fails. Yes the 99% of players should be taken care of, but why does that make them any more important as a consumer than the 1%? There are 4 difficulties currently, why are we not allowed to have even 1 that can provide the proper amount of challenge?

I'll tell you why you, as a consumer, are less important in the picture than the 99%. Firstly, of course, is that because you are a minority. Once again, BSN is a veeeery good place for the cherry picking fallacy. You say "I am a great player, my friends are also great, a lot of people from BSN are great at this, so this is super easy for everyone." But it isn't... so many people find gold very hard, and you are the exception, the top. It all sums up to perception - how do we/Bioware define hard? Is Gold hard, if 70% of players don't extract? Is Gold hard if the elite players find it fun? Or is it something else?

Also, you're not bringing the company any money at all. Yes, you paid the price for ME3, but then maxed out anything by playing. And yes, those "average" players that don't have a lot of time resources or just don't want to play very casually will, if possible, put real money into the game because they'll have no other way to get some good weapons/gear/etc. Of course, in a perfect world, the people who pay more wouldn't be more important... but the way things are right now, it is. I am also a bit thankful to them, since they keep our DLCs free. 

Btw, I am not attacking you or anything, just explaining the reasoning. Should you get an additional difficulty? Yes, why not, you deserve it as much as anyone else who wishes for different things. It would be a great idea for those players who find even platinum way too easy. However, there is the issue with the console constraints. Not many more enemies cannot be added, because your console would explode (ahh, that would be cool to watch, but not really xD) so there are trivial things that can be done at this point - buff enemies hit points, give shield/damage penalty to players at this diffuclty, make enemies hit harder. It still should make it a bit more of a challenge. And make it with as many credits at Platinum. Since those people that reaaaally want a challenge have maxed out their manifests don't need as much money (just to keep consumables in check) that shouldn't be an issue. That way Platinum+ will really be only for players wanting the challenge, and there won't be people trying to leech from them just for the money (since they will be simply playing the standard Platinum if it's only for the money).


Also this:

Lord_Sirian wrote...

The amount of bragging and trash talking in this thread disappoints me. Come on guys... it's a game.

If you disagree with someone, fine, but attack the argument, not the person.

This applies to all parties. >_>

And also, the Dragoons suck in the same way geth suck - they are not hard to kill but are cheap as hell, which is not a good thing. Yeah, buff them, and give them a sync kill too... why not. 

I feel Reapers are great on Gold now. Good challenge for us average players, and no cheapness. I wouldn't cry if they were buffed a little bit, but PLEASE, no artificial cheapness like the geth/dragoon.

[Arppis]

Jecalux wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

Maybe it's time for you to stop playing Bronze and try something harder. At least you'll be occupied with something rather than writing bull****.

lol new people to the forums shouldn't post. If you don't know who is who on the forums in regards to their accomplishments then don't trash them.

please just go chekc out my posts/youtube page/ arelex tourment thread etc .

bronze players don't have maxed manifests like me either

Haha, bazinga indeed.

[joker_jack]

Of all the pretentious, elitist, asinine, bs I've head in a while this takes the cake op. Most of the people who make these kinds of post have their head stuck up their ***** so far they can't see tomorrow. This is about as ludacris as saying there should be no casuals in the game.

I realize like everyone op, you have the freedom to say stupid things. Just because it's a right doesn't mean you should say the 1st stupid thing to drizze from your cake hole. So if you don't like the game, go play CoD and gtfo of here. The game community would be better for it.

Modifié par joker_jack, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:14 .

[count_4]

Slimjim0725 wrote...
@count_4: Oh my, a PC elitest looking down on a lowly console peasant. That is new! (Sarcasm intended)

Not looking down, just expressing experience.
In all seriousness, check the forums. It has died done a bit but just about every thread concering rude behavior, senseless kicking, elitism and the like turned out to be on console - it came to be the point where this was actually asked and confirmed within these threads, because it was so prevalent in them. 
And since Meistr-Chefs response was a side blwo to exactly this behavior in this thread, OP being on console does explain things.

I don't look down on anybody and certainly not on console players (I have two consoles myself), but I've been around long enough to notice that there is a lot more imaturity on consoles - as I said, my experience. And one that is brightly confimred and validated by OP and a lot of others here. 

Modifié par count_4, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:24 .

[GhostShadow115]

Hmm...
I once read something on the forum.
"The diversity of factions were good.
Cerberus: relied on tactics, trying to drive you into a mistake, flank you but never try to overwhelm you. They were slow but only one mistake from your side made a pay of.

Reapers: rely on brute force always trying to flush you out wherever you are. They were the medium speed not too fast neither to slow.

Geth: supposed to rely on sheer numbers trying to overwhelm you in every situation. They were supposed to be just fast to keep you on your toes in every time on the map, now they are just cheap staggerlock after staggerlock.
..."

I think it's quite accurate...
Which leads me to say that Dragoons aren't alright. As you said they do feel like "n00b smashguards spammers" which isn't right in a slow and tactical faction as Cerberus. Their "buff" should be to give them some sense of self preservation instead of just running up to you as lemming at a cliff. They aren't hard just... Well... stupid.
Seeing as every single bloody person in Cerberus takes cover and is trying to flank you and is trying to set up turrets... then you see this crackhead prancing about not even trying to make a little effort to save his sorry life... yes maybe he rolls ONCE but still he basically screams shoot me if you see him.

And if you don't see him he puts you in a stun which is a great indication to get the bloody hell out of there. They are more of an annoyance than a threat, and that is not good.

tl;dr:
Dragoons need a behavior overhaul as a buff. Make them "professionals" like the rest of Cerberus, and not just a bunch of goons.

[ZoM_Head]

You must be joking OP.

Dragoons sprint so fast to you, it is silly. KNock you out of cover, then a phantom just palm blasts you while you are stunned. Three Dragoons move in a group so you'r pretty much screwed and have to be on the move.

Reapers, you MUST be insane, to think reapers need a buff. Go play Gold, seriously i grant that 95% of you people complain about an OP weapon or an easy Enemy stick to Bronze and Silver.

[ripper000]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

NBA players can dunk, therefore the rims should be raised to 15 feet and the 3 point line should be moved to the half court line. This should be done at all levels of the game, including grade school playgrounds.

lolololol oh this was good.

[XTR3M3]

they made platinum for players that thought the enemies were too easy. If where the OP is playing is too easy, he/she should move up a difficulty level instead of asking for a needless buff. No one seriously can say platinum isn't hard enough....not without sounding like a complete dumb-arse.

If the OP is playing on anything other than platinum, then they are talking out of the orifice they sit on.

[Exosnake]

Buffing any faction to make the game in general harder would be IMO a horrible idea.
Like many stated before, most casual players have a hard time already going for any silver or gold game.
There truly is only the top 1-3% of all ME 3 players that complain about the "low" difficulty. Of course those players have everything maxed out and a huge adventage compares to your average joe.
Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.
Even if maybe the 0.5-1% that regularly finishes Platinum games in Pub lobbies with a success rate of 90%, as good as always uses their lvl 20 characters, with their level X weapons, and their level IV/V consumables/gear.

If the game is too easy for you and you have no more challenge than CREATE your own challenges. Maybe not only "lets beat our fastest time" but maybe use more low lvl characters or truly some of the weakest guns there are.

I mean what is the difference if you get a new difficulty level where your lvl.20 GI with a Harrier X and Armor rounds IV will deal some puny Phaeston X damage or if you now simply use the Pheaston and you pretty much have the same effect.
Instead of using a lvl.20 dude that would be as strong as a lvl 10 guy, just use a lvl 10 guy already.

I really don't see the problem of creating your own challenge if the game becomes too easy.

[Meistr_Chef]

Exosnake wrote...

Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.

I really do think this is the case for a lot of these players calling for enemy buffs even with the current state of the game. It's telling when some of these same players say they don't like playing in random games with unknown players in public lobbies.

If I stick with my best team all the time, preplan and prep etc, we'd have no trouble too. But somehow that seems boring so I actually play random public games most of the time. Of course it sucks when some days you get game after game of bad players - but take the bad with the good. When I get desperate for credits I'll call upon my friends, haha.

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:54 .

[CNevarezN]

Exosnake wrote...

Buffing any faction to make the game in general harder would be IMO a horrible idea.
Like many stated before, most casual players have a hard time already going for any silver or gold game.
There truly is only the top 1-3% of all ME 3 players that complain about the "low" difficulty. Of course those players have everything maxed out and a huge adventage compares to your average joe.
Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.
Even if maybe the 0.5-1% that regularly finishes Platinum games in Pub lobbies with a success rate of 90%, as good as always uses their lvl 20 characters, with their level X weapons, and their level IV/V consumables/gear.

If the game is too easy for you and you have no more challenge than CREATE your own challenges. Maybe not only "lets beat our fastest time" but maybe use more low lvl characters or truly some of the weakest guns there are.

I mean what is the difference if you get a new difficulty level where your lvl.20 GI with a Harrier X and Armor rounds IV will deal some puny Phaeston X damage or if you now simply use the Pheaston and you pretty much have the same effect.
Instead of using a lvl.20 dude that would be as strong as a lvl 10 guy, just use a lvl 10 guy already.

I really don't see the problem of creating your own challenge if the game becomes too easy.

Not to mention they nuke spawn points. You're SO right about the parties being full of great players. I say, if he wants a Manly challenge, then go to a PUG/Platinum game. I bet yehs a whole nickel this Slayin guy wont last past Wave 6.

[SlimJim0725]

count_4 wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...
@count_4: Oh my, a PC elitest looking down on a lowly console peasant. That is new! (Sarcasm intended)

Not looking down, just expressing experience.
In all seriousness, check the forums. It has died done a bit but just about every thread concering rude behavior, senseless kicking, elitism and the like turned out to be on console - it came to be the point where this was actually asked and confirmed within these threads, because it was so prevalent in them. 
And since Meistr-Chefs response was a side blwo to exactly this behavior in this thread, OP being on console does explain things.

I don't look down on anybody and certainly not on console players (I have two consoles myself), but I've been around long enough to notice that there is a lot more imaturity on consoles - as I said, my experience. And one that is brightly confimred and validated by OP and a lot of others here. 

Plenty of immaturity on PC's as well. Your comment reeked of PC elitism plain and simple. Also, as long as I have been around these forums it has been the PC players constantly talking down upon console players, not as often the other way in my experiences.

@Kaileena_Sands: Many of us "top" players are also the ones that have been playing since ME1 and while I am not saying there wouldn't be an ME3 without us, we certainly didn't hurt them buy paying for all 3 games as well as the DLC they put out for them. I am by no means saying make every difficulty more difficult even, simply Gold and Platinum. If they made credits the same across the board would it hurt to include everyone?

[The Shadow Broker]

Happy Shepard wrote...

No.

If Gold is too easy for you, play Platinum.

Exactly
Now im having fun against reapers without magic instakills

[mbergeron468]

CNevarezN wrote...

Exosnake wrote...

Buffing any faction to make the game in general harder would be IMO a horrible idea.
Like many stated before, most casual players have a hard time already going for any silver or gold game.
There truly is only the top 1-3% of all ME 3 players that complain about the "low" difficulty. Of course those players have everything maxed out and a huge adventage compares to your average joe.
Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.
Even if maybe the 0.5-1% that regularly finishes Platinum games in Pub lobbies with a success rate of 90%, as good as always uses their lvl 20 characters, with their level X weapons, and their level IV/V consumables/gear.

If the game is too easy for you and you have no more challenge than CREATE your own challenges. Maybe not only "lets beat our fastest time" but maybe use more low lvl characters or truly some of the weakest guns there are.

I mean what is the difference if you get a new difficulty level where your lvl.20 GI with a Harrier X and Armor rounds IV will deal some puny Phaeston X damage or if you now simply use the Pheaston and you pretty much have the same effect.
Instead of using a lvl.20 dude that would be as strong as a lvl 10 guy, just use a lvl 10 guy already.

I really don't see the problem of creating your own challenge if the game becomes too easy.

Not to mention they nuke spawn points. You're SO right about the parties being full of great players. I say, if he wants a Manly challenge, then go to a PUG/Platinum game. I bet yehs a whole nickel this Slayin guy wont last past Wave 6.

Slayin has already done this when he became the first person to beat a platinum before it was released at the bioware event during comic con .