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[Xuan Kylin]

i cannot event beat reaper in gold, i cannot even solo gold. also i don't even have ability to play platinum. yes i'm so noobish.
is been whole week i try all the character and different build try to find a way to beat gold. tell you the trust so far no progress anyhow. they come i drop right away. also dragoon is annoying as hell once u hell unless u spam medi-pack they stomp u to death right away. if you lucky get up they still drop u down nonestop loop. just 1 faction takes me forever to find out how to beat it. not to mention other three I need to deal with.

[GhostShadow115]

 

Modifié par GhostShadow115, 15 octobre 2012 - 10:31 .

[Walhorin]

euhm no,

nerf the others and nerf the harpoon.

[Lucius Aelius]

Reapers are a little too easy, with too much emphasis on Banshees as the only real threat, and even then they are easy (albeit tiresome) to avoid by kiting. Quite frankly I don't know what to do to fix them without breaking them in the process (and with all the ridiculous and perverse emphasis in this game on Staggering and Instakills as being good ways to increase difficulty, I'm afraid of what the Devs might do if they actually make the Reapers harder), but something needs to be done to make them actually challenging rather than merely time-consuming (some of that comes from experience soloing, but I think the point is broadly applicable to co-op play as well, all you have to do is stay away from the Banshees and you're good).

As far as the Dragoon is concerned, I would say he's perfect as is (a little fast though, nerfing his movement speed at least a little might be appropriate).

[ArtyomPettits]

You should get off of bronze maybe,

[Jzadek72]

It DOES seem reasonable for Bioware to cater mainly to the top .5% of players... Who cares about the rest, amirite? They only play gold, the noobs. Their opinions don't matter!

[CaballoGallo]

Reapers need a major buff, by far the easiest faction in the game.
Dragoons are only difficult when they're in groups mixed with phantoms, but there's no reason at the moment to buff them, as far as I see it.

[FeralJester616]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Isn't the game hard enough already?

How elitist of you to post this.

plus 1,000,000,000 internets to you.
we non elitists aprove of this post.

to the op:
don't new players have it hard enough as it is? what with the rng store and all the difficulty buffs.


And don't try and tell me there are no new players...
I ended up in a bronze lobby with 3 N7 1s only yesterday...

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

it means no no no no

the enemy though already, And there are many people even they already learned, still hard to deal with the enemy..

I don't want this game become unplayable and stressing out, that cause this game become abandoned.

Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:23 .

[Elijini]

FeralJester616 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Isn't the game hard enough already?

How elitist of you to post this.

plus 1,000,000,000 internets to you.
we non elitists aprove of this post.

to the op:
don't new players have it hard enough as it is? what with the rng store and all the difficulty buffs.


And don't try and tell me there are no new players...
I ended up in a bronze lobby with 3 N7 1s only yesterday...

Not sure if srs.

If so.....hahahahahaha. And the point goes flying past your head!

[WizeMan305]

mbergeron468 wrote...

Slayin has already done this when he became the first person to beat a platinum before it was released at the bioware event during comic con .

Just for historic accuracy he didn't beat it, they made it far. Definitely impressive because he used characters he was unfamiliar with, and with randoms. But GodlessPaladin beat it using a GI at the convention, why do I remember this because I spend more time on here as opposed to working... Don't tell my boss.

[FeralJester616]

Elijini wrote...

FeralJester616 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Isn't the game hard enough already?

How elitist of you to post this.

plus 1,000,000,000 internets to you.
we non elitists aprove of this post.

to the op:
don't new players have it hard enough as it is? what with the rng store and all the difficulty buffs.


And don't try and tell me there are no new players...
I ended up in a bronze lobby with 3 N7 1s only yesterday...

Not sure if srs.

If so.....hahahahahaha. And the point goes flying past your head!

Really? Way to contribute...

The point was that after all the buffs to the enemies, bronze is now like silver was, silver like gold and so on.
At this rate it will become impossible for new players to become good enough to get out of bronze for a very long time, leaving them either stuck there or just plain leaving, thus shrinking our already diminishing player base as it is.

If you really want a hard game, solo plat all day, stop complaining that the game is too easy and if it really is too easy for you, just go. You won't be missed by the rest of the players that are actully happy with things as they are or are barely coping...

[Rinzler]

I dont like the dragoons for different reasons. 2 ot 3 of em can chain stun u so u cant move or fight back or even just run away. I want a mob to be a challenge but playing a cover shooter(and the multiplayer is a s cover shooter not an rpg) and not being able to shoot is horrendous idea. There's making a mistake and there's ****ing up royal and to me this is ****ing up royal

PS, before you tell me I shouldnt let them get that close its not always possible to keep them back. I cant watch all directions and lay fire down on 3 approaches at the same time. Spawn points are fubar too

[Pressedcat]

I'd agree that currently the reapers are the easiest of the four factions, but at the same time they are also currently my favourite to play against. This is not simply down to them being easier, but rather because their current composition and tactics fit together well. The fix to the banshee's magnet hands has made them feel less cheap, whilst the slightly unpredictable pathing still makes them a threat if you let your guard down. The faction will punish you for making mistakes whilst not feeling cheap. They could perhaps stand a buff, but I would rather see them maintain their current feel.

I am less sure about the dragoons, as I haven't played enough within the past week to make a fair assessment. My initial reaction is that they don't feel like they fit in with the tactical style of the rest of Cerberus. Their complete lack of self-preservation and tendency to simply bum-rush head on makes them feel far more like husks in armour than well trained military minded soldiers. It is true that they have relatively low armour, but the speed with which they move (especially when changing posture as they enter into their smash animation) and the fact that they appear in groups accompanied by other threats can make them difficult to handle, especially for the average shot or less practiced team (ie an awful lot of pug teams). Also, the fact that they are armoured makes them imune to the effects of many powers and they seem to have quite high stagger resistance.

All this being said, I understand their purpose: they are there to help swarm positions and ensure that phantoms have some close support. I just feel they would fit the tone better if they behaved in a more intelligent manner, initially closing more slowly, taking cover where necessary, before launching coordinated attacks with the rest of their teams (much like armoured phantoms). If they were treated as an elite unit, appeared in smaller numbers, but were more durable with a more devastating close range attack, and basically functioned as a more direct assault phantom, I think I would like them more.

But like I said, I haven't played against them enough to feel I am qualified to make these judgement calls. You may well manage them easily, but I feel the community should have a few more weeks to fully digest their impact before cries are made to buff (or indeed nerf) them.

[Arppis]

I like the Reapers.

They were only hard before because they were cheap with their 5 meter instakill hands. Now it's balanced. Maybe they could introduce a new unit. I'd be ok with that.

But, Dragoons need to be toned down in how many there are per wave,

[Elijini]

FeralJester616 wrote...

Elijini wrote...

FeralJester616 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Isn't the game hard enough already?

How elitist of you to post this.

plus 1,000,000,000 internets to you.
we non elitists aprove of this post.

to the op:
don't new players have it hard enough as it is? what with the rng store and all the difficulty buffs.


And don't try and tell me there are no new players...
I ended up in a bronze lobby with 3 N7 1s only yesterday...

Not sure if srs.

If so.....hahahahahaha. And the point goes flying past your head!

Really? Way to contribute...

The point was that after all the buffs to the enemies, bronze is now like silver was, silver like gold and so on.
At this rate it will become impossible for new players to become good enough to get out of bronze for a very long time, leaving them either stuck there or just plain leaving, thus shrinking our already diminishing player base as it is.

If you really want a hard game, solo plat all day, stop complaining that the game is too easy and if it really is too easy for you, just go. You won't be missed by the rest of the players that are actully happy with things as they are or are barely coping...

If you had read my other posts, you'd know I did contribute, and was not in the direction of making things harder. I argued for Gold to be left untouched, even implying it was currently not an ideal level because of the difference between gold and silver. I also advocated against balancing the game around the top 1% of players.

I was just amused because Ashen Earth is definitely one of the cream of the crop players, and his post was poking fun at himself and the replies he predicted, which made you quoting it for support amusing.

[Trontor]

upinya slayin wrote...
If you go into a gold match with a harrrier you can rape things. If your best pistol is a predator X you shouldn't be playing gold.

The problem with that is of course that getting a (high level) Harrier has nothing to do with skill but only with luck and/or the ability to spend a lot of time on the game. Fixing this would be a very good improvement to the game.

On the original topic:
Dragoons aren't as hard as lot of people claim. But as the majority of player seem to struggle anyway they probably don't need a buff.

[Invader Nemesis]

Elitist post is elitist...

[Barbarian_Wall]

Just put a biotic barrier generator on the reaper faction. lol

[BerzerkGene]

What.
Dragoons need buffing?
What is wrong with you? Have you not been ambushed by a pack of 3 yet?
Just because you can apparently do everything solo with one power does not mean everyone can, just the opposite.
And weak armour? WEAK? They require a claymore to the face to be taken down. On silver..

[Applepie_Svk]

LoL buff dragons and my biotic god will have serious problems to not just run away from but also survive...

[Invader Nemesis]

ArtyomPettits wrote...

You should get off of bronze maybe,

He doesn't play bronze...

[cgj]

i'm all for the reaper buff
i like the idea of a new unit puting down barrier generators

and if by dragoon buff you would say, improving their AI then i'm down for it too

Modifié par cgj, 15 octobre 2012 - 02:02 .

[upinya slayin]

count_4 wrote...

You know, the OP felt kinda strange to read. Didn't know why, but then I saw it:

upinya slayin wrote...
The fury is horrible against collectors.

Yep, you just don't know what you're talking about. Kinda has me wondering - you complain that the Reapers are too easy, yet you find the Fury horrible vs. Collectors - when she's actually one of the best against them.

Are you, by any chance, a silver player?

lol. you obviously haven't tried her unless you don't play the suicide bomber build

1) AF field will kill posessed abominatioins which = instant death. there is no way around it. you blow the field and they die, if they run into the field the die. which mean syou die unless there is a solid wall you can teleport through before it explodes.
2) the fury is 100% depenadnt on throwing to set off BEs with AFs. once the seeker plague gets you, your powers go bye bye rendering the fury pretty useless agianst them.

I'm not syaing you cna't play a fury against them, sure you can and still deal damage out/ Just saying in general its not the best class since they have defensies built into them to take advantage of the fury weaknesses

[upinya slayin]

joker_jack wrote...

Of all the pretentious, elitist, asinine, bs I've head in a while this takes the cake op. Most of the people who make these kinds of post have their head stuck up their ***** so far they can't see tomorrow. This is about as ludacris as saying there should be no casuals in the game.

I realize like everyone op, you have the freedom to say stupid things. Just because it's a right doesn't mean you should say the 1st stupid thing to drizze from your cake hole. So if you don't like the game, go play CoD and gtfo of here. The game community would be better for it.

u mad bro?

Causal players can easily enjoy the game. I said not to have any changes to silver ot bronze. hell they can even nerf the dragoon for silver and bronze for all i care. I'm talking about gold and platinum only.

If you are a casual player and feel gold is unplayable then don't play it lol. Its not for eveyrone. its not being an elitesit. I dind't play anything but bronze until i elveled every character up to level 20 for the 1st time. then i moved to silver and so on and so on.

My point is people who want an eays win button and ant every UR at level X in 1 day playing can STFU or GTFO becuase you souund like a bunch of whiney kids. Back when i was a kid games were hard. and we dind't have internet, and cheat codes, and things like that. there weren't dofficulty modes. either. we had 1 difficulty which was always insanity mode and we would try for hundreds of hours to beat some games and or levels.