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alhamel94 wrote...

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OP, just try silver.

i have to say i am never going to get sick of this.
its hilarious that people think this is totally fine to say on a buff enemies thread, but god forbid we go on a nerf the enemies thread and tell them to get better at the game


lol very true, i would play siver but its too easy. some people don't realize i'm not a bronze player just cause i'm asking for a buff. its sad

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DimJinY wrote...

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manifest is linked im dont know the numbers but to get that manifest playing bronze would probably take like i dont know 12 years

Where is link to manifest? Can't find it...
P.S. Just FYI manifest is filled from packs, which easily can be bought for Bioware Points, isn't it?


would a video help?

http://www.youtube.c...ds?feature=mhee

thats my youtube channel.

not alot but a couple of speed run vids on gold for the arelex torunment, on platinum for the hell of it. a few gold solo's (i have lone wolf on my manifest, isn't that enough to show i'm not a bronze player?) and a speed famring guide on platinum glacier.

do you need more proof still?

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I'm not too sure about the Reapers myself, I had a game against them on Rio last night (this was on Gold, the last randomers I I found to play platinum with died horribly) and it seemed a bit of a walkabout imo. Granted there is a lot of space on that map and I was a Destroyer but I was glad not being sync killed in ridiculous ways. I mean I was sync killed by a banshee but it was through my own fault, not suddenly doing the moonwalk back to her from 20 feet away; will have to play some more to see if they are truly easy or not

as for Cerberus, still the same pain in the ass Phantoms, god I love cracking their skulls open but I am a bit split on the Dragoon, at one point I think they are an interesting enemy to fight, since they use the slash and whip attack but on the other hand they just sort of come across as totally cheap and way out of character for Cerberus. 1 or 2 of them, yeh sure, but then you suddenly have 6+ of the lemmings going faster than Roadrunner and it just seems a bit...well ridiculous, like a constant stream of annoyance

I wouldn't mind buffing them if their behaviour was slightly different, would be cool if they could cloak as well perhaps or do something like a biotic charge to cover distance but I have always liked fighting Cerberus because they didn't feel cheap or annoying like say the Geth, those dudes do change that a bit but not to a great extent I guess

I shoot them first though the second I see them ha

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Hey OP, don't hold your breath:

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Hey everyone, the team does feel the game has become more difficult with the latest content and patch and we think there are a lot of reasons for this, but we don't believe it is the health/shield gate issue. We will continue to investigate the gates to see if we've missed any edge cases, but at this time we are working on other solutions to the jump in difficulty.


Also, replying nine times in your own thread back to back (see page 13/14) comes off as a combination of spam/bumping/egomania.

Modifié par ElectroNeonPanda, 15 octobre 2012 - 05:41 .


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Gylukios wrote...

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Gylukios wrote...

snip.


I know you werent addressing me, but the thing about randoms is that the game is not necessarily made more challenging or more difficult in the traditional sense, it is made more frustrating due to the idiocy of 75% of randoms who refuse to cooperate, work as a team, have immense tunnel vision. it is not the game's error, it is pure human error that makes PuGs so annoyingly frustrating.

and i dont see why the game shouldnt be balanced around random PuGs. it was made with cooperation in mind, and it's not the fault of a good team if they can roflstomp platinum games in under 25 minutes.


No, it's not the fault of a good team if they can blow through Platinum with no problem at all. However, that team does not get the right to complain that the game is too easy. By virtue of being a team, they warped the game to their favor before you take skill or loadouts into account.

And yes, annoying or idiotic randoms are annoying and idiotic. It's that way for every team based multiplayer videogame there is. Frustration is challenge and difficulty. If you have to carry an idiot teammate, that's more challenge, more difficulty for you. However, that idiot random teammate has you as a random teammate. If you're good enough to carry on to victory despite his lack of skill, then the game works, because four random persons were able to win.


Thats all well and good when the idiotic random goes down only a few times, but when they are playing gold or even silver at times and go down every wave multiple times then it become a greater problem and they should move to a lower difficulty to improve on their skills. It is a tem based game so taking a team f friends will not warp the game inot anyones favor. There are plenty of friend teams that still fail miserably so you do have to take skill into account since even if they are friends they can still suck.

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ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

Hey OP, don't hold your breath:

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Hey everyone, the team does feel the game has become more difficult with the latest content and patch and we think there are a lot of reasons for this, but we don't believe it is the health/shield gate issue. We will continue to investigate the gates to see if we've missed any edge cases, but at this time we are working on other solutions to the jump in difficulty.


Also, replying nine times in your own thread back to back (see page 13/14) comes off as a combination of spam/bumping/egomania.


it would only be once if there was a multi-quote option this board needs

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upinya slayin wrote...

DimJinY wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...
manifest is linked im dont know the numbers but to get that manifest playing bronze would probably take like i dont know 12 years

Where is link to manifest? Can't find it...
P.S. Just FYI manifest is filled from packs, which easily can be bought for Bioware Points, isn't it?


would a video help?

http://www.youtube.c...ds?feature=mhee

thats my youtube channel.

not alot but a couple of speed run vids on gold for the arelex torunment, on platinum for the hell of it. a few gold solo's (i have lone wolf on my manifest, isn't that enough to show i'm not a bronze player?) and a speed famring guide on platinum glacier.

do you need more proof still?

more proof http://social.biowar...n&platform=xbox

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upinya slayin wrote...

mbergeron468 wrote...

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Buffing any faction to make the game in general harder would be IMO a horrible idea.
Like many stated before, most casual players have a hard time already going for any silver or gold game.
There truly is only the top 1-3% of all ME 3 players that complain about the "low" difficulty. Of course those players have everything maxed out and a huge adventage compares to your average joe.
Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.
Even if maybe the 0.5-1% that regularly finishes Platinum games in Pub lobbies with a success rate of 90%, as good as always uses their lvl 20 characters, with their level X weapons, and their level IV/V consumables/gear.

If the game is too easy for you and you have no more challenge than CREATE your own challenges. Maybe not only "lets beat our fastest time" but maybe use more low lvl characters or truly some of the weakest guns there are.

I mean what is the difference if you get a new difficulty level where your lvl.20 GI with a Harrier X and Armor rounds IV will deal some puny Phaeston X damage or if you now simply use the Pheaston and you pretty much have the same effect.
Instead of using a lvl.20 dude that would be as strong as a lvl 10 guy, just use a lvl 10 guy already.

I really don't see the problem of creating your own challenge if the game becomes too easy.


Not to mention they nuke spawn points. You're SO right about the parties being full of great players. I say, if he wants a Manly challenge, then go to a PUG/Platinum game. I bet yehs a whole nickel this Slayin guy wont last past Wave 6.


Slayin has already done this when he became the first person to beat a platinum before it was released at the bioware event during comic con :D.



lol yup.

also this
http://social.biowar.../index/14511716

In general though i don't like platinum with randoms.


I could hardly care about what you did. You're no different from me or any other of the good players here. Why don't you preach to your lacky's. The majority who posted on your "Buff the Dragoon" thread are laughing at you man, you're just to blind to see.

Modifié par CNevarezN, 15 octobre 2012 - 06:32 .


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CNevarezN wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

mbergeron468 wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

Exosnake wrote...

Buffing any faction to make the game in general harder would be IMO a horrible idea.
Like many stated before, most casual players have a hard time already going for any silver or gold game.
There truly is only the top 1-3% of all ME 3 players that complain about the "low" difficulty. Of course those players have everything maxed out and a huge adventage compares to your average joe.
Also most of those "elite" players usually play their little platinum games with full parties of great players and than they complain about the game being too easy.
Even if maybe the 0.5-1% that regularly finishes Platinum games in Pub lobbies with a success rate of 90%, as good as always uses their lvl 20 characters, with their level X weapons, and their level IV/V consumables/gear.

If the game is too easy for you and you have no more challenge than CREATE your own challenges. Maybe not only "lets beat our fastest time" but maybe use more low lvl characters or truly some of the weakest guns there are.

I mean what is the difference if you get a new difficulty level where your lvl.20 GI with a Harrier X and Armor rounds IV will deal some puny Phaeston X damage or if you now simply use the Pheaston and you pretty much have the same effect.
Instead of using a lvl.20 dude that would be as strong as a lvl 10 guy, just use a lvl 10 guy already.

I really don't see the problem of creating your own challenge if the game becomes too easy.


Not to mention they nuke spawn points. You're SO right about the parties being full of great players. I say, if he wants a Manly challenge, then go to a PUG/Platinum game. I bet yehs a whole nickel this Slayin guy wont last past Wave 6.


Slayin has already done this when he became the first person to beat a platinum before it was released at the bioware event during comic con :D.



lol yup.

also this
http://social.biowar.../index/14511716

In general though i don't like platinum with randoms.


I could hardly care about what you did. You're no different from me or any other of the good players here. Why don't you preach to your lacky's. The majority who posted on your "Buff the Dragoon" thread are laughing at you man, you're just to blind to see.


I never said i was. I lvoe how people put words in other peopls mouth.

point is i gave my opinon on teh new enemy and how it needs adjsuting.

I got called a bronzie = i proved that was true
I got called a troll = i proved that worng by responding with reasons for my opinon
i got called an eliteist DB = i've helped more new players and most of teh haters in teh thread combined.

i do alot of good for the forums and the ME3 community as a whole. people like you just waste space with hatefull posts. if we were figures in histroy, you'd be hitler and i'd be ghandi

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Bioware please ignore these morons

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upinya slayin wrote...

it would only be once if there was a multi-quote option this board needs


You can manually multi-quote, isn't as hard as Gold/Plat so you'll have no problem, OP.

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upinya slayin wrote...

I never said i was. I lvoe how people put words in other peopls mouth.

point is i gave my opinon on teh new enemy and how it needs adjsuting.

I got called a bronzie = i proved that was true
I got called a troll = i proved that worng by responding with reasons for my opinon
i got called an eliteist DB = i've helped more new players and most of teh haters in teh thread combined.

i do alot of good for the forums and the ME3 community as a whole. people like you just waste space with hatefull posts. if we were figures in histroy, you'd be hitler and i'd be ghandi


*Sigh* How can I respond to that one? Take the criticism being thrown at you like a man bro. You're comparing figures of History to a damn MP game just because you help people out and whatnot? You definitly need to get some ****, Capitan and relax. If you can't stand the heat, don't post, Gandhi.

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You know OP, this might not have occurred to you but when the majority of the posters are stating they feel the difficulty level is fine - if not a little too tough - maybe you're the odd one out and rather than asking for BW to tune the game solely so you, and a chosen few, find it challenging to the expense of everyone else's enjoyment maybe it's time you found another game more suited to your particular tastes.

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CNevarezN wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I never said i was. I lvoe how people put words in other peopls mouth.

point is i gave my opinon on teh new enemy and how it needs adjsuting.

I got called a bronzie = i proved that was true
I got called a troll = i proved that worng by responding with reasons for my opinon
i got called an eliteist DB = i've helped more new players and most of teh haters in teh thread combined.

i do alot of good for the forums and the ME3 community as a whole. people like you just waste space with hatefull posts. if we were figures in histroy, you'd be hitler and i'd be ghandi


*Sigh* How can I respond to that one? Take the criticism being thrown at you like a man bro. You're comparing figures of History to a damn MP game just because you help people out and whatnot? You definitly need to get some ****, Capitan and relax. If you can't stand the heat, don't post, Gandhi.


lol constructive accurate critism is helpfull. critism based on made up informaiton and bad asusmption just makes you look like an ass. Just becuase people are on the internet doens't mean they have to automatically be retarded.

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upinya slayin wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I never said i was. I lvoe how people put words in other peopls mouth.

point is i gave my opinon on teh new enemy and how it needs adjsuting.

I got called a bronzie = i proved that was true
I got called a troll = i proved that worng by responding with reasons for my opinon
i got called an eliteist DB = i've helped more new players and most of teh haters in teh thread combined.

i do alot of good for the forums and the ME3 community as a whole. people like you just waste space with hatefull posts. if we were figures in histroy, you'd be hitler and i'd be ghandi


*Sigh* How can I respond to that one? Take the criticism being thrown at you like a man bro. You're comparing figures of History to a damn MP game just because you help people out and whatnot? You definitly need to get some ****, Capitan and relax. If you can't stand the heat, don't post, Gandhi.


lol constructive accurate critism is helpfull. critism based on made up informaiton and bad asusmption just makes you look like an ass. Just becuase people are on the internet doens't mean they have to automatically be retarded.



Based on how you type on the way you present yourself, you should read your own advice. I'm no tough guy, I'm just a guy who digs gaming on my Xbox, slugger.

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all right people. http://social.biowar...94&platform=ps3 im really not amazing. look i dont have a maxed manifest very few high UR and gold reapers is sooooooo easy. gold collectors, challenging and fun, gold geth yeah its tough, gold cerberus real in your face, reapers, take 0 damage from anything except a marauder. it is extremely imbalanced. reapers are so incredibly weak

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ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

You know OP, this might not have occurred to you but when the majority of the posters are stating they feel the difficulty level is fine - if not a little too tough - maybe you're the odd one out and rather than asking for BW to tune the game solely so you, and a chosen few, find it challenging to the expense of everyone else's enjoyment maybe it's time you found another game more suited to your particular tastes.


since you actually responded nicely, i'll explain myself again becuase some things aren't clear to most people.

1) In no way, shape or form do i want to quit ME3 MP. I think it is an aweosme game. I'm gonna play it until i get bored of it

2) I don't want the game to be changed to accomodate me only. I already stated that they should buff them for gold and platinum only. Most of the people complaining they are too hard said they play silver mostly. You know what? they can nerf them for silver and bronze and taht would be fine with me. My buffs are for plaitnum and gold. And if you are on that diffculty a minor health buff to a mid tier enemey shouldn't bother you.

3) why is it ok for a majority to say somehting but me disagree. a majority of people picked george bush to be president. that didn't work out great did it? a majority doens't always mean its the best choice. Not eveyrone will agree with eveyrone. they are entitiled to their opinion just as i'm entitiled to mine. I didn't harass people who said that they are too hard, just as i expected not to be harassed for syaing they are easy. I treat other how I'd like to be treated. Its sad that most people are now only selfish

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CNevarezN wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I never said i was. I lvoe how people put words in other peopls mouth.

point is i gave my opinon on teh new enemy and how it needs adjsuting.

I got called a bronzie = i proved that was true
I got called a troll = i proved that worng by responding with reasons for my opinon
i got called an eliteist DB = i've helped more new players and most of teh haters in teh thread combined.

i do alot of good for the forums and the ME3 community as a whole. people like you just waste space with hatefull posts. if we were figures in histroy, you'd be hitler and i'd be ghandi


*Sigh* How can I respond to that one? Take the criticism being thrown at you like a man bro. You're comparing figures of History to a damn MP game just because you help people out and whatnot? You definitly need to get some ****, Capitan and relax. If you can't stand the heat, don't post, Gandhi.


lol constructive accurate critism is helpfull. critism based on made up informaiton and bad asusmption just makes you look like an ass. Just becuase people are on the internet doens't mean they have to automatically be retarded.



Based on how you type on the way you present yourself, you should read your own advice. I'm no tough guy, I'm just a guy who digs gaming on my Xbox, slugger.


i was constructive. since the changes the geth are cheaper, the collectors are brutal, ceberus makes you get out of cover, and the reapers ahve beocme pushovers.

face it 1 group will always be weaker and hence played the most. 1st it was geth, then the becuase cheap and fruststarting. then it was ceberus now they added dragoons and buffed atlas's , now its reapers. give it 2 weeks and soo how much more repaers get played then other factions. BW will see this and buff them anyway. i predict a reaper buff within the next 4 weeks.

aslo since the dragoon and bomber are new i expect them to be balanced sometime in the next month or so. Maybe they'll nerf them, maybe they'll buff them nobody knows. I reserve the right to my opinion. as does everyone else. no reason to attack eveyrone for their opinion

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alhamel94 wrote...

all right people. http://social.biowar...94&platform=ps3 im really not amazing. look i dont have a maxed manifest very few high UR and gold reapers is sooooooo easy. gold collectors, challenging and fun, gold geth yeah its tough, gold cerberus real in your face, reapers, take 0 damage from anything except a marauder. it is extremely imbalanced. reapers are so incredibly weak


glad i'm not the only one who sees this.

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Last time i remembered that the Scion was considered a reaper in ME2 and i thought they were going to be added to the reapers but you know im not complaining im just stating this out there.

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lmysterie wrote...

Last time i remembered that the Scion was considered a reaper in ME2 and i thought they were going to be added to the reapers but you know im not complaining im just stating this out there.


scions are brutal. geth pulse cannon, cluster grenades,a nd a ton of armor

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upinya slayin wrote...

lmysterie wrote...

Last time i remembered that the Scion was considered a reaper in ME2 and i thought they were going to be added to the reapers but you know im not complaining im just stating this out there.


scions are brutal. geth pulse cannon, cluster grenades,a nd a ton of armor

lol imagine if they added the geth COLOSSUS from ME2 as a new geth enemy XD

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On Gold/Platinum, you want them buffed by more armor, more damage then? That makes sense. If you're asking to buff their speed and Smash spamming... that doesn't make sense. Dragoons should have the same speed on their Smash animation as Ex-Cerberus Adepts... and the same cooldown speed in my opinion.