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[Zardoc]

upinya slayin wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Buff Dragoons and Reapers? Lol, what are you smoking? Maybe try something other than Bronze or Silver, and you'll see they don't need buffing. Cannibals tear you to shreds, Dragoons are hard as fok to kill without Overload, a shotgun or any AoE. etc etc

wanna compare manifests and accomplishments and see who is teh bronze player between the 2 of us?

You are just sad, bro.

[hudder92]

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

It sounds like someone isn't going to be happy until either 98% of the community quits playing the game due to frustration or they all move to bronze since it will be the only difficulty an average player will be able to extract from.

not to sound like a jerk but an "average" player as you call it should be playing silver

beginner = bronze
average = silver
good player = gold
great player = platinum

that what it is there for. If the credits were the same for all 4 difficulties people would play the one that suits them best. instead all teh young gamers want an easy win unlock eveyrhting button. and complain when they don't get it.

You completely misunderstood my point. I said he won't be happy until the average gamer either stops playing the game or has to play bronze. Meaning if they keep buffing enemies and making this game harder. It's going to alienate 98% of the people who play this game. The people who can solo platinum with their hands tied behind their backs are the extreme minority. But yet these are the jerks who keep asking for enemy buffs.

if people quit the game becuase its not easy its no loss. the game isn't meant to be easy (except bronze) i'm by no means the best gunner out there. no even close IMO. but the great thing about ME3 MP is you have a team of 4 and you can suck at aiming and still do good if you use power classes.

I don't expect everyone to be able to solo platinum or even beat platinum and i don't want to see the game get so hard that a group of 4 good players cna't beat gold. but it shouldn't be soo easy that a group of 4 crappy players can beat gold by sitting behind a counter all game

You won't be saying that when you are forced to solo any game you want to play because everyone is either playing bronze or just quit playing altogether.

Also there is a difference between 4 crappy players beating Gold and 4 crappy players using an exploit to beat gold.

if anything it will get teh people who have no business playing certain difficulties out of it. playing PUGs (and mind you i don't do it too foten) i'd say about 5% of the players i've come across had no business being in that difficulty. 4 crappy players won't even beat a gold w/o explioting 1 cheap tactic. 

If eveyrhting was unlocked immdeiatly upon buying the game 90% of people in gold and platinum would be playing bronze and silver. teh rewards is what makes people mad. Look at my manifest. id din't do the 1st 4 challenge weekends. I also dind't play gold until i was ready. i earned my bumps and bruises on bronze and silver. I never jumed into a game hoping to be carried. excuse me if i don't have sympathy for people taking the lazy route to things.

I don't want to punish solid players by making gold unplayable. let me make that clear.

My manifest may not be maxed out, but it is pretty full. And yes I did it playing mostly silver. I don't glitch nor do I use exploits. You can check it out if you want to. I still don't play gold. And recently (last patch) I quit playing silver and went back down to bronze because well, I hate frustrating games. I play games to have fun and relax. Frustration levels in games do not cater to having fun nor relaxing.

[upinya slayin]

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

Maybe it's time for you to stop playing Bronze and try something harder. At least you'll be occupied with something rather than writing bull****.

lol new people to the forums shouldn't post. If you don't know who is who on the forums in regards to their accomplishments then don't trash them.

please just go chekc out my posts/youtube page/ arelex tourment thread etc .

bronze players don't have maxed manifests like me either

Who cares about your epeen?  I certainly don't.  Perhaps you've outgrown this game and need to move on.  

all i did was post my opinion on some balance issues. i'm not bored of the game nor do i find it soo easy that every enemy should be buffed. Not trying to stroke my epeen but i've been called a "bronze" player by several people here who probably can't beat a gold w/o doing teh FBWGG trick that doens't exist anymore

[DSxCallOfBooty-]

longgamma wrote...

Hey bro, I am having enough trouble in gold pugs, my medigel supply is at an all time low. If you want a real tough challenge, go play Dark Souls. What exactly are you trying to prove here?

Dark Souls isn't all that hard, really.

Unless you're in low level PvP or challenge playthroughs.

OT:  Dragoons are fine as is.  I wouldn't have a problem with a shields/barriers addition if less of them were on the field at once.  As is the sheer number of them is what makes them difficult.  Reapers are very manageable compared to the other enemies at this point.  Maybe more Ravagers in a wave would up the difficulty.

Modifié par DSxCallOfBooty-, 15 octobre 2012 - 02:15 .

[upinya slayin]

hudder92 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

hudder92 wrote...

It sounds like someone isn't going to be happy until either 98% of the community quits playing the game due to frustration or they all move to bronze since it will be the only difficulty an average player will be able to extract from.

not to sound like a jerk but an "average" player as you call it should be playing silver

beginner = bronze
average = silver
good player = gold
great player = platinum

that what it is there for. If the credits were the same for all 4 difficulties people would play the one that suits them best. instead all teh young gamers want an easy win unlock eveyrhting button. and complain when they don't get it.

You completely misunderstood my point. I said he won't be happy until the average gamer either stops playing the game or has to play bronze. Meaning if they keep buffing enemies and making this game harder. It's going to alienate 98% of the people who play this game. The people who can solo platinum with their hands tied behind their backs are the extreme minority. But yet these are the jerks who keep asking for enemy buffs.

if people quit the game becuase its not easy its no loss. the game isn't meant to be easy (except bronze) i'm by no means the best gunner out there. no even close IMO. but the great thing about ME3 MP is you have a team of 4 and you can suck at aiming and still do good if you use power classes.

I don't expect everyone to be able to solo platinum or even beat platinum and i don't want to see the game get so hard that a group of 4 good players cna't beat gold. but it shouldn't be soo easy that a group of 4 crappy players can beat gold by sitting behind a counter all game

You won't be saying that when you are forced to solo any game you want to play because everyone is either playing bronze or just quit playing altogether.

Also there is a difference between 4 crappy players beating Gold and 4 crappy players using an exploit to beat gold.

if anything it will get teh people who have no business playing certain difficulties out of it. playing PUGs (and mind you i don't do it too foten) i'd say about 5% of the players i've come across had no business being in that difficulty. 4 crappy players won't even beat a gold w/o explioting 1 cheap tactic. 

If eveyrhting was unlocked immdeiatly upon buying the game 90% of people in gold and platinum would be playing bronze and silver. teh rewards is what makes people mad. Look at my manifest. id din't do the 1st 4 challenge weekends. I also dind't play gold until i was ready. i earned my bumps and bruises on bronze and silver. I never jumed into a game hoping to be carried. excuse me if i don't have sympathy for people taking the lazy route to things.

I don't want to punish solid players by making gold unplayable. let me make that clear.

My manifest may not be maxed out, but it is pretty full. And yes I did it playing mostly silver. I don't glitch nor do I use exploits. You can check it out if you want to. I still don't play gold. And recently (last patch) I quit playing silver and went back down to bronze because well, I hate frustrating games. I play games to have fun and relax. Frustration levels in games do not cater to having fun nor relaxing.

and there is nothing wrong with going back to bronze if you don't have fun in silver. just don't complain about not getting easy rewards (not saying you directly just saying people in general) the standard of difficulty should be based around gold. They don't need to buffthem for silver to bronze. they can neft them for silver or bronze for all i care. those modes sholdn't be hard. when i say the need buffs i'm talking about for gold. and if you are a majority gold player, a minor buff hsouldn't bother you

[hudder92]

If they can buff Gold and Platinum without making Silver next to impossible for the average players. I'm fine with that. I don't really play for the credits much anymore. I get enough credits playing bronze/silver. The UR weapons are just about as worthless as the Rare weapons anyway. It's one of the reasons I went back down to bronze. I'm just working on maxing out my Gears on my manifest. So All I need to buy is Veteran packs right now which I can do by playing bronze.

I also don't plan on playing Silver again until I can max out my consumables. So It will be a long time.

And while I'm on the topic. I can play Gold.. I can even get through it without going down if we have a good team. I can even get through it on top of the score board. I just don't like to play frustrating games.

Modifié par hudder92, 15 octobre 2012 - 02:20 .

[The fool you should have eaten]

golyoscsapagy wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

golyoscsapagy wrote...

Hey, if you so much like challenge, why not play it on PC? I mean you wouldn't have an aimbot and mobs would do much more damage to you.

... wait.  You're not joking.  Are you?  Please leave PC vs. Console bickering out of this.  It is not relevant, nor will it help further the discussion.

And sorry for the double post. 

It is relevant. The difficulty is not the same. It's not about 'my PC penis is bigger than your console penis', it's about a difference in difficulties. If mobs do 20% more damage on PC then a game which is fine on console is stupid hard on PC. Otherwise yeah, most console self-proclaimed shooter kings plainly suck without artificial help (chopper driving notwithstanding), but that's out of the point.

What you say is true.  It is true for one reason alone.  You used the word "if" when discribing the situation.  They don't do more damage on PC.  It is the same game.  Do you think that they would bother with keeping track of different enemy damage outputs for differing platforms?  If they do, can you give me a source?  I find that to be strange, but would be more than willing to believe it if you can show me.

Of course people have difficulty playing on a different platform after long periods of time one another one.  You could bet your bottom dollar that I would suck on a PC version of the game, and I have some 675 hours logged.  It would be like starting all over.

This response is based off of the assumption that you are saying that enemies do 20% more damage on PC, though now that I read it, you said that...  Actually I'm not really sure what you said.  Could you rephrase that?  If PC is inately harder than consoles, why would there be a damage increase on the PC?  I don't understand. 

Sorry for being dense, but my point stands, that this argument will lead to a tangent, that doesn't contribute, evidenced by the fact that you didn't actually address the topic of Dragoons at all.

[BalisticCarnage]

you want a challenge, give hunters an instant kill move
I've often felt they need one.

[hudder92]

BalisticCarnage wrote...

you want a challenge, give hunters an instant kill move
I've often felt they need one.

I think the bombers should just drop a nuke on you if you are hiding behind a counter. lol

[ryoldschool]

Jecalux wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

Maybe it's time for you to stop playing Bronze and try something harder. At least you'll be occupied with something rather than writing bull****.

lol new people to the forums shouldn't post. If you don't know who is who on the forums in regards to their accomplishments then don't trash them.

please just go chekc out my posts/youtube page/ arelex tourment thread etc .

bronze players don't have maxed manifests like me either

Yeah, I'm not sure why you bothered to post this thread in the first place.   We just got a whole lot of content, and its pretty much obvious that Cerberus and Geth are harder now since they have added effective units, and the collectors are all new.   The thing that made reapers a pain to play was the magnet hands which allowed the banshees to cheat - now that that is fixed they are of course easier to play.

Calling enemies a joke is not exactly going to help the developers to improve the game if that is your intent.

[upinya slayin]

ryoldschool wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

Maybe it's time for you to stop playing Bronze and try something harder. At least you'll be occupied with something rather than writing bull****.

lol new people to the forums shouldn't post. If you don't know who is who on the forums in regards to their accomplishments then don't trash them.

please just go chekc out my posts/youtube page/ arelex tourment thread etc .

bronze players don't have maxed manifests like me either

Yeah, I'm not sure why you bothered to post this thread in the first place.   We just got a whole lot of content, and its pretty much obvious that Cerberus and Geth are harder now since they have added effective units, and the collectors are all new.   The thing that made reapers a pain to play was the magnet hands which allowed the banshees to cheat - now that that is fixed they are of course easier to play.

Calling enemies a joke is not exactly going to help the developers to improve the game if that is your intent.

my intent was giving BW my opinion on a new enemy that should be "balanced" its ok for eevryone to say nerf them but not ok for me to say buff them?

[ToaOrka]

Ha. Hah ha.

Oh wait, you're serious.

[Thorein]

I agree about the Reapers. Compared to the other factions, they are definitely the easiest. Dragoons, not too sure. Only played against them as a vanguard so far and I mowed them down fast. I think they definitely need a damage buff but I think the health is fine where it is.

[drakon136]

Okay I just played a few more Gold matches against Cerberus and I take it back. The Dragoons don't need a buff, they just need to get thrown in a deep hole.

[JGDD]

upinya slayin wrote...

Jecalux wrote...

Maybe it's time for you to stop playing Bronze and try something harder. At least you'll be occupied with something rather than writing bull****.

lol new people to the forums shouldn't post. If you don't know who is who on the forums in regards to their accomplishments then don't trash them.

please just go chekc out my posts/youtube page/ arelex tourment thread etc .

bronze players don't have maxed manifests like me either

i lol'd. You joined after the person you tried to ridicule with your artificial forum status swagger. Nice try.

The Dragoons are fine, too. Just the right amount of '****** you off' molded into them.

[Jadebaby]

It's because of this thread that the game is getting worse and worse. Just remember that the game shouldn't be designed so only regular players can play it. With all the complaining that it's too easy. This is what it starting to happen.

[Big_Choppa]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Dragoons are stupid, just like this topic. Their general design is just dumb.

I agree. It seemed cool at first but they don't feel like they fit in with the Cerberus groups.

[Badpanzer]

Big_Choppa wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Dragoons are stupid, just like this topic. Their general design is just dumb.

I agree. It seemed cool at first but they don't feel like they fit in with the Cerberus groups.

Agreed.

[dimeonwu]

Happy Shepard wrote...

No.

If Gold is too easy for you, play Platinum.

Word! Upinya, man, I respect your mad skillz and all that, but if you want a bigger challenge, take it up to Platinum instead of getting Bioware to increase the difficulty.
As it is, I already spend a lot of time break dancing on the floor after Retaliation:crying:

[BeoWulf151]

oh the game is too easy ...jee what do we do now ...hmmm ...oh why not play gold ore platinum ...

Dragoons are god damn pest they run like speedy gonzalez shoot like a nemesis and are more stealthy then a phantom ( i never hear them coming i can hear a phantom but not them ) ...about the reapers why not add a new unite ther too 1 that uses nukes that be fun right ...it runs right up to you and BOOOOM nothing left even for medygel to revive ,,,, sound good yes ? ( NO )

[HoochieHamiltoe]

OP is loosing credibility with every post he makes......

[Necrotron]

Dragoons would need an AI change if they are buffed.

They're the most obnoxious unit in the game until you have overpowering damage to deal with them.

[Titus Thongger]

reapers could use a buff.

dragoons are a bit squishy imo. 1 saber headshot. pow. so much for all that armor. they could use barriers imo.

btw, anyone ever sent sabotaged geth pyros against dragoons? it's hilarious

[HoochieHamiltoe]

I personally think the game is more fun now then it ever has been. Except for Geth of course. Have more lulz when I play against Collectors.