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[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

So you admit that Shepardlyst is merely a copy and not actually Shepard, as you're attempting to claim.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

I have to agree with Dreman here. Control basically cyberizes Shepard's brain, which means it's the same person. Look at Ghost in the Shell: Major Motoko Kusanagi had her mind  cyberized and placed into a proshetic body, but she was still the same person as before.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:11 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

What did you just say? Wow dude, you lost, move on.

Seplyst even says Shepard died, it isn't even a matter of semantics, this is clearly a black and white issue, Shep AI is not, and I repeat so you can get it, IS NOT, Shepard.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:11 .

[EnvyTB075]

On a completely unrelated note, that anime is one of the best i've ever seen.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:07 .

[dreman9999]

iakus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Funny, I would have said that you should understand way it can happen...

I understand why it happen...Which is the reason why I knowit won't happen with the Shepard AI. The key thing the catalyst did want it did is because it''s a shackled AI.

You ralize an unshackled AI is even more unpredictible, right.  That's why people are so scared of them, the potential danger they pose.

That does not means"Shepard ai will go crazy". And if the shepard ai goesinto the background....People will  not have this conserned over with  over time.

Modifié par dreman9999, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:10 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

On a completely unrelated note, that anime is one of the best i've ever seen.

I agree. The Ghost in the Shell franchise is one of my top five anime franchises. 

[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...
That does not means"Shepard ai will go crazy". And if the shepard ai goesinto the background....People will have this conserned or it over time.

....people will have this concerned or it over time....








wat?

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

On a completely unrelated note, that anime is one of the best i've ever seen.

I agree. The Ghost in the Shell franchise is one of my top five anime franchises. 

...not quite what i was thinking of actually.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:09 .

[KotorEffect3]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

OMG stop with the damn hating. I can't believe some of you are still whining like spoiled children over this. If you don't like it, just stop playing the damn game altogether, instead of complaining about it.

Noise that just won't cease.

I hear you.

[dreman9999]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

What did you just say? Wow dude, you lost, move on.

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.

[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.

You probably needed the audiobook version.

[dreman9999]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
That does not means"Shepard ai will go crazy". And if the shepard ai goesinto the background....People will have this conserned or it over time.

....people will have this concerned or it over time....








wat?

Reread my post.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

On a completely unrelated note, that anime is one of the best i've ever seen.

I agree. The Ghost in the Shell franchise is one of my top five anime franchises. 

...not quite what i was thinking of actually.

What were you thinking of?

[Knightly_BW]

I am kinda in between about my faith in Bioware.

I was okay with original endings. EC turned them into more understandable and enjoyable. For me Mass Effect franchise best game series made by Bioware. While ME3 have some low points it also have very smooth things in it.

However there is whole Dragon Age situation. After Dragon Age: Origins, Bioware took bad decisions after another. Horrible DA:The Awakenings followed up with poorly executed, boring Dragon Age 2. On top of those they published a freak of movie about Dragon Age franchise. Honestly I am not holding my breath for DA 3.

Fun fact; Sci Fi is my least interested genre while I love every kind of fantasy fiction. Bioware turned that trend upside down.

[dreman9999]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.

You probably needed the audiobook version.

Right, because my spelling,Which I don't care for online,  indecates how well I read.

I have you know I just started reading God emperor of Dune.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

dreman9999 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

What did you just say? Wow dude, you lost, move on.

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.

Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

[dreman9999]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

He tries so hard to make himself right lol

It is quite amusing, yes.

I also find mirth in observing the contortions he will go through to rationalize the irrational.

It's not irrational to think I have the final say if the reapers are used. The shepard ai is basicly the player.

I never downloaded the sprinkles DLC, but from videos I've seen of it, the Shep AI clearly state that it is not, in fact, Shepard, so no, you don't get any choice in the matter.

We have a winnar. In the same vein that in Halo-verse Cortana is not Halsey despite being a copy of her brain, Shepardlyst is not Shepard, and you don't get to decide what it does.

Cortana is not the thoughts and memories of Halsey uploaded and madei nto an AI. The shepard AI is the thoughts and meamories of Shepard uploades and made into an AI.

Next, look intothe conext of your points before using them. Cortana, an AI made via brain scans(clone of Halsey's brain scans that is), is not that same thing the thoughts and meamories of a being being uploaded and turned into an AI.

What did you just say? Wow dude, you lost, move on.

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.

Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

Yes it is. Everything thing stated in ec says it is. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

dreman9999 wrote...
Yes it is. Everything thing stated in ec says it is. 

Oh you mean " The man Shepard was" or  how it never refers to itself as Shepard?


Or how it says Shepard is dead, multiple times.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:19 .

[dreman9999]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.

It's not the first time this happens in ME ether.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Virtual_Alien

Even legion tells you that this is what the reaper plan to do to organic races.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.

Being a sycophant isn't going to make him any less incorrect.

It isn't the same person when the Ai clearly states that it is not the same person.

[dreman9999]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Yes it is. Everything thing stated in ec says it is. 

Oh you mean " The man Shepard was" or  how it never refers to itself as Shepard?


Or how it says Shepard is dead, multiple times.

Was as in "what I was before" Shepard is no longer a man/woman...Not even human.

[dreman9999]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.

Being a sycophant isn't going to make him any less incorrect.

It isn't the same person when the Ai clearly states that it is not the same person.

More like saying it's no longer human.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

dreman9999 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Yes it is. Everything thing stated in ec says it is. 

Oh you mean " The man Shepard was" or  how it never refers to itself as Shepard?


Or how it says Shepard is dead, multiple times.

Was as in "what I was before" Shepard is no longer a man/woman...Not even human.

OH, before, as in....not anymore.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:23 .

[EnvyTB075]

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]EnvyTB075 wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

You have not read any Halo books ,have you? Look up Cortana, and you'll get what I mean.
[/quote]

You probably needed the audiobook version.

[/quote]Right, because my spelling,Which I don't care for online,  indecates how well I read.

I have you know I just started reading God emperor of Dune.
[/quote]

Oh, you're reading Dune? I'm quivering in my e-boots in fear.

And yes, it does indicate how well you read, and your general intelligence. If you don't have the self respect to properly communicate with others, just how do you expect to be taken seriously in any arena? Its not that hard.




And if you want to impress anyone, go read Rainbow Six.



[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]EnvyTB075 wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...
That
does not means"Shepard ai will go crazy". And if the shepard ai
goesinto the background....People will have this conserned or it over
time.
[/quote]

....people will have this concerned or it over time....








wat?




[/quote]Reread my post.
[/quote]

I did, you still sound like a jabbering lunatic.

[quote]LDS Darth Revan wrote...

[quote]EnvyTB075 wrote...
[quote]LDS Darth Revan wrote...
[quote]EnvyTB075 wrote...

On a completely unrelated note, that anime is one of the best i've ever seen.
[/quote]
I agree. The Ghost in the Shell franchise is one of my top five anime franchises. [/quote]

...not quite what i was thinking of actually.

[/quote]
What were you thinking of?[/quote]

Well a certain user here directly refers to the Sixty Billion Double Dollar Man himself...

[quote]LDS Darth Revan wrote...

[quote]Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't
give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an
AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no
refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.
[/quote]
again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.
[/quote]

Except for the part where in the control ending its actually not.

That is a fact.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
 Don't give me that bull, Sheplyst isn't Shepards consciousness uploaded to an AI shell and you know it, scew it however you will, but there is no refuting that Sheplyst is not Shepard.

again, Dreman is right about this.A mind can be cyberized and yet be the same person.

Being a sycophant isn't going to make him any less incorrect.

It isn't the same person when the Ai clearly states that it is not the same person.

I'm not being a sycophant, in fact we disagree on several topics. However, I believe he is correct in this regard.