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[zioninzion]

Mcfly616 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Haha OP can't even make a thread showing his appreciation without getting trolled from the very first comment.

You haters are like hyenas

And you white knighters are like hookers, very easy to please and quick to defend from any sort of scrutiny.

white knighters? Lame lol


I hated the original endings and bashed them, Bioware and StarBrat since the day i rejoined the BSN, all the way up til my EC download was completed at 5:30 am on June 26....that's 3 months of straight up bashing everything about the last 10 minutes of the game and anybody that had anything to do with it. So when I found out that StarBrat wasnt completely removed and Indoc Theory wasnt being implemented, I already knew EC was going to suck. (My posts don't lie)

But it didn't. And since I was thoroughly satisfied by the EC, that makes me a hooker? Right on bro lol whatever makes you feel better about the fact that you are simply hater: picking apart anything and everything to make yourself feel better about your own point of view. Hell, I could tear ME2 apart far worse than ME3....but it seems the cool thing to do here is to hate on something while its current and then praise it after something new has been released a few years down the line.

What about the EC did you like or were satisfied by? I am genuinly curious. Perhaps there is something I am missing. For me, like others have said, all it did for me was draw a smiley face on a bad ending.

Ironically my issue wasn't with the fact that all my choices didnt matter in the end (or any for that matter). I realize that this is a video game for PS3 and not a supercomputer built by astrophysists working at NASA. I understand there had to be a limited ending. But its the ending they chose which is bad. I spent 50 hours being told that if I unite the galaxy for the first time and rally the troops, that I have a shot at winning and being the first generation to beat the reapers. Thats the whole theme of ME3! Only a united galaxy can win. So I go from solar system to solar system uniting everyone and then in the last ten minutes, I am introduced to some starbrat who negated everything I have done and left the ending to an ABC choice.

And 2 of those choices (control and synthesis) go against everything Shepard stands for and everything the game does: Saren is the evidence were given that synthesis is wrong and the Protheons and TIM are evidence that control is wrong. And for Destroy, I dont get to lead my forces head on to the Reapers to smash them and send them back to whatever hole they crawled out of, I have to engage in space magic and shoot some magic space beam.

I just don't see how the EC fixed any of that besides saying it all worked out well in the end. My faith in BW will not only be restored by sealed forever, if they introduce IT.

[EnvyTB075]

Mcfly616 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Haha OP can't even make a thread showing his appreciation without getting trolled from the very first comment.

You haters are like hyenas

And you white knighters are like hookers, very easy to please and quick to defend from any sort of scrutiny.

white knighters? Lame lol


I hated the original endings and bashed them, Bioware and StarBrat since the day i rejoined the BSN, all the way up til my EC download was completed at 5:30 am on June 26....that's 3 months of straight up bashing everything about the last 10 minutes of the game and anybody that had anything to do with it. So when I found out that StarBrat wasnt completely removed and Indoc Theory wasnt being implemented, I already knew EC was going to suck. (My posts don't lie)

But it didn't. And since I was thoroughly satisfied by the EC, that makes me a hooker? Right on bro lol whatever makes you feel better about the fact that you are simply hater: picking apart anything and everything to make yourself feel better about your own point of view. Hell, I could tear ME2 apart far worse than ME3....but it seems the cool thing to do here is to hate on something while its current and then praise it after something new has been released a few years down the line.

You are presuming that i give a damn halfway to sunday about your poor, poor feelings. If you're gonna toss names around, then so am I.

Being "satisfied" with the EC merely means you're easy to please and are ok with sprinkles on a turd for breakfast.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:12 .

[Arcadian Legend]

The EC was good enough. Still not the best ending for a sci-fi trilogy of ME's caliber, but it's passable, unlike the original ending.

[Galbrant]

Ahem... I thought it was garbage TC. The only notable thing about the EC is we actually have an ending and that's about it. In fact the EC made some things worst, Like the Normandy Beam rush evacuation, Catalyst, and Synthesis for example.

[dsl08002]

not yet

The EC was not good in my opinion, but thats only considering that the original ending was bad and that they tried to make something good out of it. they should have created a new one instead.

But i dont have lost my hopes in Bioware, but right now its just a wait and see for me. i haven´t bought a single DLC so far.

The ball is on biowares court now. lets see how they use it?

[B.Shep]

Yeah, the EC fixed most issues i had with the original endings. I am ok with them now

[Chardonney]

dsl08002 wrote...

not yet

The EC was not good in my opinion, but thats only considering that the original ending was bad and that they tried to make something good out of it. they should have created a new one instead.

But i dont have lost my hopes in Bioware, but right now its just a wait and see for me. The ball is on biowares court now. lets see how they use it?

Agreed. They still have a chance to redeem themselves in my eyes. 

[darkway1]

Considering that Mass3 was the grand finale to an epic trilogy,I think Bioware let themselves down,the original ending was extremely poor in both concept and execution.....the EC did the job of answering much needed questions but wasn't a fitting ending to a great franchise,disappointed.

[Nightdragon8]

^ Agreed

[h0neanias]

While I find the amount of concern for a videogame amusing at best, I would still say this -- the EC fixed the ending's form, true. Now it looks like a professional job instead of someone just giving up in the middle of his work. The ending's content, however, remains unaddressed -- has to remain, at this point, sadly. It is what happens where the main problem lies, not how it is presented. But that's a done deal now.

[Foxhound2121]

What is sad is that they thought teleporting people and contradictions to characters was acceptable for an ending.

Not to mention speculation for everyone after they announced the complete opposite.

[008Zulu]

No. No. The whole "Crucible/Catalyst" is whats wrong with ME3's ending. Maybe in 200 years it'll be considered art, but today, it's just... lame.

[thearbiter1337]

If i can romance that FemTurian

Faith in BW restored here

[crimzontearz]

no, if anything the EC showed me their stubbornness and high and mighty attitude

I might buy their games in the future.....used

[Biosman]

sorry but nothing will fix the feeling i had after the traumatic experience of the original ending. the EC was really a bone thrown to the baying crowds, it may have patched some plot holes, but it was done badly, cheaply, and cheesily.
the whole part after the death of anderson (up to that bit it was good) should have been scrapped and completely re-written, ME is dead, it's toast EC or no EC, we were played a bad card and they know it, no amount of spin is going to change the godawful gut feeling i was robbed of thousands of hours of gameplay and real life.,

i refuse to buy Leviathan, and anything else from the ME franchise till its fixed, or at least, the game can be modded and put right, until then ME franchise remains uninstalled.

hoping DA:3 can redeem the terrible crimes made to the great epic DA franchise , then again thats another Franchise broken irrepairably so MEH

[Killer3000ad]

SOrry, bad dessert is still bad dessert and ruins the main course and appetizer. Just because they plonk some cherry on the top, it doesn't change the fact that at the bottom of the bowl is pigeon crap.

[Mcfly616]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Haha OP can't even make a thread showing his appreciation without getting trolled from the very first comment.

You haters are like hyenas

And you white knighters are like hookers, very easy to please and quick to defend from any sort of scrutiny.

white knighters? Lame lol


I hated the original endings and bashed them, Bioware and StarBrat since the day i rejoined the BSN, all the way up til my EC download was completed at 5:30 am on June 26....that's 3 months of straight up bashing everything about the last 10 minutes of the game and anybody that had anything to do with it. So when I found out that StarBrat wasnt completely removed and Indoc Theory wasnt being implemented, I already knew EC was going to suck. (My posts don't lie)

But it didn't. And since I was thoroughly satisfied by the EC, that makes me a hooker? Right on bro lol whatever makes you feel better about the fact that you are simply hater: picking apart anything and everything to make yourself feel better about your own point of view. Hell, I could tear ME2 apart far worse than ME3....but it seems the cool thing to do here is to hate on something while its current and then praise it after something new has been released a few years down the line.

You are presuming that i give a damn halfway to sunday about your poor, poor feelings. If you're gonna toss names around, then so am I.

Being "satisfied" with the EC merely means you're easy to please and are ok with sprinkles on a turd for breakfast.

ahaha i could care less what you think. Funny, you assumed otherwise. You're simply a hater. Nothing more. Everybody has their opinions on what they like and do not like, but you don't bring anything constructive to the conversation. You are merely a troll.

[EnvyTB075]

Mcfly616 wrote...
ahaha i could care less what you think. Funny, you assumed otherwise. You're simply a hater. Nothing more. Everybody has their opinions on what they like and do not like, but you don't bring anything constructive to the conversation. You are merely a troll.

Yes, everyone has an opinion, yours happens to be stupid.


But hey, i'm not the one who shows up, calls everyone a "hater" in their first post and accuses everyone else of trolling after a discussion.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:12 .

[Mcfly616]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
ahaha i could care less what you think. Funny, you assumed otherwise. You're simply a hater. Nothing more. Everybody has their opinions on what they like and do not like, but you don't bring anything constructive to the conversation. You are merely a troll.

Yes, everyone has an opinion, yours happens to be stupid.


But hey, i'm not the one who shows up, calls everyone a "hater" in their first post and accuses everyone else of trolling after a discussion.

called "everyone" a hater? Lol umm no. Wrong again. Though, by responding you effectively admitted to being one lol

Stupid? And now you're just effectively proving that you are indeed a troll.... Bro, all you have to do is look in the mirror lol. My opinion isn't yours so its stupid? Lol genius. What a f*ckin moron. Lol you're fun to laugh at. Troll on bud

Modifié par Mcfly616, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:19 .

[EnvyTB075]

Mcfly616 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
ahaha i could care less what you think. Funny, you assumed otherwise. You're simply a hater. Nothing more. Everybody has their opinions on what they like and do not like, but you don't bring anything constructive to the conversation. You are merely a troll.

Yes, everyone has an opinion, yours happens to be stupid.


But hey, i'm not the one who shows up, calls everyone a "hater" in their first post and accuses everyone else of trolling after a discussion.

called "everyone" a hater? Lol umm no. Wrong again. Stupid? Bro, all you have to do is look in the mirror lol. My opinion isn't yours so its stupid? Lol genius. What a f*ckin moron. Lol you're fun to laugh at. Troll on bud

Yes, yours is stupid, because simplified it goes something like this.

Dog takes a dump in your cereal. You're all mad, understandably so. Then pisses on top of said dump and you chow down those cornflakes like no tomorrow, proclaiming it to be the best thing since sliced bread. That is your opinion.

Mcfly616 wrote...
Bro, all
you have to do is look in the mirror lol.

OH U, i know i'm handsome but you really should stop, i'm mighty shy y'know.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:21 .

[Balz to the Wall]

I created this thread to share my opinion and i seem to have stimulated a very good conversation. let's stop with the name calling. I respect everyones opinion. Heck I fought for your right to have one.

[Rovay]

Balz to the Wall wrote...

I created this thread to share my opinion and i seem to have stimulated a very good conversation. let's stop with the name calling. I respect everyones opinion. Heck I fought for your right to have one.

Well, I wouldn't call what we have here a 'conversation' in the normal sense of the word. But you've certainly stimulated something.

[Argolas]

I am glad it worked for you, OP. It fixed many of my issues, but my two main issues were not solved yet.

1) Character Focus

Just one example: It would have done so, so much for me if I could have taken my two favourite characters with me up to the decision chamber, or at least would be able to contact them. I want everyones opinion in the final choice. Not being alone was one of the best parts of the series, I replayed the games multiple times just for the sake of some unique dialogue lines (bring Legion to the Flotilla!). But shortly before the end, all the loved characters are evacuated and disappear. The normandy crash scene does not mean anything because they are all repleacable there. These are just character models, not characters, as long as they neither talk nor do anything that another character would not say or do. The pictures in the EC actually did solve a bit of that, at least I know they are fine, but... it´s not the same as talking to them. I think most people who love Mass Effect or used to can relate.

2) War assets and non-squaddies

We know they are on earth, fighting. That´s great, but... we never see or meet them. For example, in the scene where we fight and suddenly the reapers break through our left flank I want a Krogan charge to fix that, or if the bomb exploded, at least a weak charge, or if you failed to recruit them, you are on your own. Maybe we fight a big badass enemy once, and then get support of Jack´s Biotic Artellery Squad, or if they are Support, we get Backup from their shields, or if they are not recruited, we are on our own once again. I would also have loved an appearance of Samara and the last Justicars defending a group of civilians, maybe together with Asari commandos (I know there aren´t many civilians left by then). I would also have loved the raging Rachni Queen fighting a harvester that you otherwise would have to defeat yourself.

I could go on like this for a looong time, but I think you get the point: The war assets could be so much more than plain numbers, but they aren´t. There is so much potential here. If they made a DLC where at least the ground troop assets and the characters we care about appear like in my examples above, this would turn the horrible Priority: Earth mission into a real highlight of the series, at least in my opinion.

While I have no hope for the first point ("no more ending DLC"), I still did not give up on the second one. THAT would restore my faith in Bioware.

[christrek1982]

Balz to the Wall wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Balz to the Wall wrote...

Like many of you I was dissatisfied with the original endings but after just finishing the extended cut my faith in Bioware is restored. I even started a second playthrough and can't wait for Omega to come. Thank you Bioware for your commitment to the fanbase and for the countless hours of enjoyment you have given me.

What are you talking about?  Even after the EC, Bioware still didn't delivery any of they're promises tha tI know of.  Why is there still an ABC ending?  It's just like the time my dad didn't get me a Macbook Pro for Christmas.

I get what your saying but they can't make a separate ending for every possibility you know? The game would never get finished.

this is true and I understand that I also knew that star kid was not going anywhere and in truth I could live with most of the issue aside from three.

1 an ending where shep live to go with the ending where she dies.(no more farced sacrafice)
2 the mass relay don't get destroyed.
3 The normandy is not stranded fror the crew to starve.

 two are fixed and it is a matter of opinion as to the third.

the team came close to fixing the ending at least for me but no real shep live outcome so they fell short.

and I still find it shocking that a game that prides itself on choice take it all away in the last few moments so that it can force the player into some force sacrafice so that they can force one last tear out of the player and call themselve deep or artistic. 

Modifié par christrek1982, 15 octobre 2012 - 11:57 .