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Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Whine, whine, whine, moan, moan, moan.


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Not trolling. Just making an observation of the thread thus far.


People stating their opinion back, while you antagonize

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dreman9999 wrote...

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Off topic, but whay does your banner state u support a revamped priority earth? didn't you support the origninal version? I am pretty sure you and I butted heads on this a while back.:D

The ending and priority earth are two different things.
I want a better last mission(s), not a change to the ending. This is an issue of quality not content.


Fair enough. We may not agree on the ending but yeah, Priority Earth gives ME3 a whimper of a final mission.

I actually would LOVE a revamped priority earth to show war assets, harbinger fight, war assets, more variabliity outside STEEEEVEE, war assets, I could go on  :wizard::wizard:

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AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Whine, whine, whine, moan, moan, moan.


Troll, troll, troll Image IPB


Not trolling. Just making an observation of the thread thus far.


People stating their opinion back, while you antagonize


So what? If you don't like being called out on it, don't post it. 

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dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

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EC didnt change anything wat r u talking about it added a slideslow and farewells ending it still sucks donkeyballs

So we still don;t know the fate of the galeyx and it's a wasteland with no mass relays still?


Off topic, but whay does your banner state u support a revamped priority earth? didn't you support the origninal version? I am pretty sure you and I butted heads on this a while back.:D


You should hear his arguements about hub worlds, there worth a few laughs Image IPB

You mean the fact there a war going on and their is not place to make sales out side of the citadel?

You tell me someone is running a store while the reapers are destorying cities?


Thessia (pre-Thessia mission), Sur'kesh, The Crucible building site, possibly Omega, Noveria was a possiblity because all we saw was Cerberus at that one base

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Ithurael wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Off topic, but whay does your banner state u support a revamped priority earth? didn't you support the origninal version? I am pretty sure you and I butted heads on this a while back.:D

The ending and priority earth are two different things.
I want a better last mission(s), not a change to the ending. This is an issue of quality not content.


Fair enough. We may not agree on the ending but yeah, Priority Earth gives ME3 a whimper of a final mission.

I actually would LOVE a revamped priority earth to show war assets, harbinger fight, war assets, more variabliity outside STEEEEVEE, war assets, I could go on  :wizard::wizard:


This I agree with. I would like to see longer scenes featuring all my different war assets engaged in combat.

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Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Whine, whine, whine, moan, moan, moan.


Troll, troll, troll Image IPB


Not trolling. Just making an observation of the thread thus far.


People stating their opinion back, while you antagonize


So what? If you don't like being called out on it, don't post it. 


No thats not being called out, thats called being a troll because you have nothing real to say as always

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Eterna

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AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Whine, whine, whine, moan, moan, moan.


Troll, troll, troll Image IPB


Not trolling. Just making an observation of the thread thus far.


People stating their opinion back, while you antagonize


So what? If you don't like being called out on it, don't post it. 


No thats not being called out, thats called being a troll because you have nothing real to say as always


Because the majority of comments in this thread are insightful and noteworthy. 

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I never really "lost faith" in Bioware. I know they can make good games. And with the DLC now, we know what the ending was supposed to be. What we got originally was a rush-job because EA is too ****ing impatient.

In fact, this is all EA's fault. They rushed the game out, made them slap on multiplayer and make tons of DLC for it as a cash grab when they could have been making the ending properly, all the while explaining the ending to us with content I believe they intentionally cut from the release version so they could make more money (Leviathan, mainly, and Omega as well I assume; Javik too). EA obviously doesn't care even though Bioware does, and the founders obviously realized that and got the **** out before they became even more corrupted.

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Balz to the Wall wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Off topic, but whay does your banner state u support a revamped priority earth? didn't you support the origninal version? I am pretty sure you and I butted heads on this a while back.:D

The ending and priority earth are two different things.
I want a better last mission(s), not a change to the ending. This is an issue of quality not content.


Fair enough. We may not agree on the ending but yeah, Priority Earth gives ME3 a whimper of a final mission.

I actually would LOVE a revamped priority earth to show war assets, harbinger fight, war assets, more variabliity outside STEEEEVEE, war assets, I could go on  :wizard::wizard:


This I agree with. I would like to see longer scenes featuring all my different war assets engaged in combat.


I think Bioware themselves wanted to add more to Earth mission, but I'm not 100% sure on this

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the extended cut is all it took? thats great i guess

have no idea what in it made you so pleased op

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iakus wrote...

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I like it, too bad. Spoiled people are spoiled without redemption.


People are allowd to voice their dislike over and over, as the same applies to people who like it are able to voice their opinion, over an over.  

One is louder, sure, but that's liiiiiiiiife.

If this complains id just.."I didn't  kill all the reapers, be with my li and have a happy ending" or "I don't want to do anything immoral to stop the reapers."...Then I think the whiners missed the poitn.
The question ME as a series is what would you do and sacrific to stop and unstopable force...Your furture and your morals is on the table.


Funny, I was able to get through the first two games that way.  Silly me for thinking the third game would be any different...:mellow:

As thing porgress...Things become harder. Beside you did sacrifice to beat ME1. Then you worked for cerberus..who made soldiers into lab rats in ME1. And later you found out they did it to kids....Then to the mentally challenged right in front of your face.

I'll ask you this, If people learn you did not stop the reapers becausethe one way of doing so conflict with your morals....Do you think they would be happy about it?

Understand waht this statement means....

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead soul and ask the ghostif honor matter....The silence is you awnser."


If you want your honor intact...There's a control option to pick.

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I like the "band-aid for a broken ankle" analogy. That's about right. A monumentally stupid battlefield goodbye scene and a couple minutes of slides and cut-scenes is not nearly enough to redeem the puke pile that is the ME3 endings.

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dreman9999 wrote...

If this complains id just.."I didn't  kill all the reapers, be with my li and have a happy ending" or "I don't want to do anything immoral to stop the reapers."...Then I think the whiners missed the poitn.
The question ME as a series is what would you do and sacrific to stop and unstopable force...Your furture and your morals is on the table.


For certain people, the series was about something different, could of been just about the characters or could of been what you just said - stopping the Reapers, obviously the obvious "goal" was the latter, but I for one, cared more about the characters than the plot itself, which lost it's appeal after ME1 (IMO).  

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the extended cut is all it took? thats great i guess

have no idea what in it made you so pleased op


It contains possibly 1000% more closure than the original ending, for a start. And, yes, the Catalyst does make more sense.

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dreman9999 wrote...
As thing porgress...Things become harder. Beside you did sacrifice to beat ME1. Then you worked for cerberus..who made soldiers into lab rats in ME1. And later you found out they did it to kids....Then to the mentally challenged right in front of your face.

I'll ask you this, If people learn you did not stop the reapers becausethe one way of doing so conflict with your morals....Do you think they would be happy about it?

Understand waht this statement means....

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead soul and ask the ghostif honor matter....The silence is you awnser."


If you want your honor intact...There's a control option to pick.


If I want my honor intact, I can turn off the game and uninstall it, and that's just what I did.

Games are meant to be fun, to be enjoyed.  I'm frankly sick of this grimdark fad.

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As awful as I think the original ending is, I think that the extended cut made it worse. 

Agreed, I picked control, and until the EC came out, I could have at least imagined that my Shepard used the reapers to rebuild the mass relays before flying them all into a black hole ending the threat once and for good, but not anymore...

Speaking of control, I actually thought that with the original ending that it was a viable option for a power hungry Shepard too, but as you said, the ec commentary put a damper on that. :/

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If I want my honor intact, I can turn off the game and uninstall it, and that's just what I did.

Games are meant to be fun, to be enjoyed.  I'm frankly sick of this grimdark fad.


It really must suck to be you (and anyone sharing your preferences).

I'm fortunate enough to enjoy comedies and grimdark.

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OMG stop with the damn hating. I can't believe some of you are still whining like spoiled children over this. If you don't like it, just stop playing the damn game altogether, instead of complaining about it.

Noise that just won't cease.

0/10


People like you are why the world is in such ruin, blindly accepting whatever your masters hand you.


I'm not blindly accepting anything. Painly speaking, I liked the Ending which I worked for (Destroy). I didn't like it for BioWare's sake. I liked it, simply because I did.

Calling someone blind because they are not part of some insane majority is completely asinine.

So what if someone likes the ****ing game? It doesn't mean that person is being BioWare's b*tch.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 octobre 2012 - 03:37 .


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DirtyMouthSally wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

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As awful as I think the original ending is, I think that the extended cut made it worse. 

Agreed, I picked control, and until the EC came out, I could have at least imagined that my Shepard used the reapers to rebuild the mass relays before flying them all into a black hole ending the threat once and for good, but not anymore...

Speaking of control, I actually thought that with the original ending that it was a viable option for a power hungry Shepard too, but as you said, the ec commentary put a damper on that. :/


Renegade Shepard and Paragon Shepard have different control commentaries. At least I think so.

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I must admit it helped, but it hardly restored my faith. Kinda like a band-aid for a broken ankle, know what I mean?

A band-aid that, in being applied, also breaks your shin.

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If being forced to choose a heinous war crime and/or murder your friends was truly "the point" of the the Mass Effect series, then Bioware can truly go eff themselves.

Modifié par clennon8, 15 octobre 2012 - 03:37 .


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Jamie9 wrote...

iakus wrote...
If I want my honor intact, I can turn off the game and uninstall it, and that's just what I did.

Games are meant to be fun, to be enjoyed.  I'm frankly sick of this grimdark fad.


It really must suck to be you (and anyone sharing your preferences).

I'm fortunate enough to enjoy comedies and grimdark.


It only sucks when the writers pull the rug out from under you in the last ten minutes.

Usually I can get a sense ahead of time if it's something I'd enjoy or not.

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For certain people, the series was about something different, could of been just about the characters or could of been what you just said - stopping the Reapers, obviously the obvious "goal" was the latter, but I for one, cared more about the characters then the plot itself, which lost it's appeal after ME1 (IMO).  


ME1 had the least fleshed out characters of the trilogy.

Tali and Wrex are talking codexes. Joker has a total of one dialogue wheel (plus random comments on each plot world). Pressley has one dialogue wheel.

You obviously have the least amount of squaddies in any of the games, and combined with them not being fleshed out, I feel that characters really came alive in ME2.

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iakus wrote...
It only sucks when the writers pull the rug out from under you in the last ten minutes.

Usually I can get a sense ahead of time if it's something I'd enjoy or not.


Indeed. I've always said they should have advertised it correctly: as a dark, gritty war story, as opposed to a Sci-Fi Epic.

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Jamie9 wrote...

spirosz wrote...
For certain people, the series was about something different, could of been just about the characters or could of been what you just said - stopping the Reapers, obviously the obvious "goal" was the latter, but I for one, cared more about the characters then the plot itself, which lost it's appeal after ME1 (IMO).  


ME1 had the least fleshed out characters of the trilogy.

Tali and Wrex are talking codexes. Joker has a total of one dialogue wheel (plus random comments on each plot world). Pressley has one dialogue wheel.

You obviously have the least amount of squaddies in any of the games, and combined with them not being fleshed out, I feel that characters really came alive in ME2.


As do I, ME1 had the best plot, ME2 had the best characters for me.  Again, that has to do with ME2 having a bad plot and being more character focused, which is fine to a degree, but that all came down to the "stand alone" mindset Bioware had mixed in with this trilogy.