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[B.Shep]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I think everyone would rather die than become abominations in the Synthesis ending.

They aren't abominations. Everyone is the same person as they were before.

Everyone is the same person, what did Synthesis solve?
Synthesis was all about changing organics to accept Synthetics,  but if they're the same then they can't do that.
Your view is illogical.

Yeah everyone is the same... I am pretty sure EDI simply forgot her talk about being really alive with Shepard or Javik will love his new cyborg look without any kind of mental change....
Really, Synthesis is the worst ending and saying no one is changed with it is complete foolishness...

Modifié par B.Shep, 15 octobre 2012 - 10:01 .

[Nightdragon8]

The only way Synthesis is good, is if you head cannon, that when you made it with Tali, after the green glowing thing, she ends up getting preggy with your kid, maybe the same with Miranda

But in general its just wired. In Dus Ex it at least made some sense, and it wasn't a magical flash of light that made everyone that way. It would have been over time.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I think everyone would rather die than become abominations in the Synthesis ending.

They aren't abominations. Everyone is the same person as they were before.

Everyone is the same person, what did Synthesis solve?
Synthesis was all about changing organics to accept Synthetics,  but if they're the same then they can't do that.
Your view is illogical.

Everyone isnt the same, they just all got equally upgraded. Humans are still humans, Quarians are still quarians. They didn't all become the same species or person.

[ATiBotka]

No, Synthesis is good, my favourite ending. And yes, I'm indoctrinated, I know.

[cavs25]

Synthesis is the so call "Disney Ending" that a lot of people throw out as insult every time someone mentions a victory without the crucible.

Hell, synthesis is a Sesame street ending...The misunderstood baddies become bff's with everyone else, no one else dies, they share knowledge, all the diseases or physical weaknesses are cure and they live happily ever after...AWWWWW


All this is brought to you by the ghost child, the leader of the Reapers, the Reapers who have killed billions of people...and have been your enemy since mass effect 1....The choice the little vent kid prefers....

Let me add one more thing...
The catalyst tells Shepard "Synthesis isn't something you force on people"

So now go and force it on them!

Modifié par cavs25, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:23 .

[x5kevleo]

Synthesis is the Best Ending, I Admire the concept!

[Fixers0]

yes.

[Ticonderoga117]

Yes, because it makes no bloody sense in it's scale and it's horribly wrong to do.

[d-boy15]

synthesis is good when you don't think about it too much and just believe in what slide tell you,
throw out the logical because that not what synthesis had.

in fact all ending is good if you stop using logic.

[Paranoidal nemesis]

Shepard dies and the enemies you fought against for the past 3 games live and gain self awareness. My hatred of Synthesis can be read here: http://social.biowar.../index/14181670

I felt uncomfortable with the fact that all of Shepards friends and loved ones become biological counterparts to the reapers. The Catalyst, the entity that sought to preserve organic life by initiating a galactic Holocaust that pulverized entire species to the atomic level, considers it the ideal solution.
I felt defeated when I chose synthesis. Shepard not only died, but conformed to the Catalyst's ideology. And in doing so I don't see the point of fighting the reapers in the first place, it makes all the atrocities they committed seem justified.

[blueumi]

it is bad it's no different then a surgeon doing plastic surgery on me when i never said that he could

shepard and the reapers have no right to do this to any one and the way bioware make out that it's ok to change everyone in every conceivable manner and say there you go thats a good ending is mind numbing

we go to war in real life all the time so to kill the reapers the enemy of every organic that has ever been is self defence we did not join hitler so why bioware thinks we should go and hug and join space hitler is beyond me

the reapers crimes are unforgivable and they are mad they make no sense they have no rational logic and that is why synthesis would be the worst war crime ever it's stupid insane and ruined everything

we should work together that was the message in mass effect 1 and 2 i don't get where this lets all be reapers and say well done for destroying those other organics and stopping evolution

this is bad and thank god bioware are not in government their hatred for organics is frightening

[Seival]

Synthesis is not bad, and it's inevitable
http://social.biowar.../index/13740862

...At least I think so.

Modifié par Seival, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:37 .

[Ticonderoga117]

Seival wrote...

Synthesis is not bad, and it's inevitable
http://social.biowar.../index/13740862

...At least I think so.

Are we moving towards Synthesis? Sure. However, deciding that everyone forever from one day onward MUST be synthesised is wrong.

I may want cool cyborg toys, but other might not. That's the problem.

[blueumi]

Seival wrote...

Synthesis is not bad, and it's inevitable
http://social.biowar.../index/13740862

...At least I think so.

look in this day and age some people dye their hair but some don't some people have plastic surgery some don't since when would all living beings change dna

evolution is natural it's the only thing that is inevitable being organic and synthetic at the same time is not going to just happen it has to be done and so is not inevitable

[spirosz]

I like the concept of it, but the execution of it was done poorly, for me at least.

[AlexMBrennan]

Free will is maintained

Then it won't work. War will continue - unless you take away the Reapers' free will, they might just decide to kill us anyway and it would not be a viable choice.

What's more, the game clearly shows that free will is not maintained - you see a husk hugging a marine at the end: common sense in that situation would be to keep shooting that guy that just ripped your best mate's head off

[mauro2222]

The fact that everyone is bff with the Reapers after what they have done contradicts this...

"1. Wraps special nanites around DNA that allow organics to more easily augment themselves with technology.

2. Grants synthetics the ability to experience emotions.

That's it. Nothing else. Free will is maintained."

So what? they forget? they don't hate because they "understand"? understanding doesn't grant acceptance.

I understand the need for technology, but I don't want to be a green lamp.

[Jere85]

Havent read the OP, but to the forum topic:

Yes.

[AresKeith]

Seival wrote...

Synthesis is not bad, and it's inevitable
http://social.biowar.../index/13740862

...At least I think so.

LOL

[RebelTitan428]

until it is explained how Shepards essence allows for the possibility for this space magic, yes, it is really that bad..

[spirosz]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Free will is maintained

Then it won't work. War will continue - unless you take away the Reapers' free will, they might just decide to kill us anyway and it would not be a viable choice.

What's more, the game clearly shows that free will is not maintained - you see a husk hugging a marine at the end: common sense in that situation would be to keep shooting that guy that just ripped your best mate's head off

Exactly, lol.

All it did was make more efficient killers.  

Modifié par spirosz, 15 octobre 2012 - 09:48 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

I think everyone would rather die than become abominations in the Synthesis ending.

They aren't abominations. Everyone is the same person as they were before.

Everyone is the same person, what did Synthesis solve?
Synthesis was all about changing organics to accept Synthetics,  but if they're the same then they can't do that.
Your view is illogical.

Everyone isnt the same, they just all got equally upgraded. Humans are still humans, Quarians are still quarians. They didn't all become the same species or person.

To quote earlier you said

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

They aren't abominations, Everyone is the same person as they were before.

Now you're changing your view saying they're not the same.
Make up your mind.

I meant that after the Synthesis occured, I am still me while you are still you. When I said everyone isn't the same in the quote, I was saying that after the Synthesis occured, everyone is not me.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

spirosz wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Free will is maintained

Then it won't work. War will continue - unless you take away the Reapers' free will, they might just decide to kill us anyway and it would not be a viable choice.

What's more, the game clearly shows that free will is not maintained - you see a husk hugging a marine at the end: common sense in that situation would be to keep shooting that guy that just ripped your best mate's head off

Exactly, lol.

All it did was make more efficient killers.  

Everyone has achieved full understanding of each other, so there's no need to fight. Everyone still has freewill still, they just now see fighting is pointless.
PS: Love your avatar pic Spirosz

[blueumi]

think about the synthetics that also are fine with who and what they are so they have to change as well if they are alive in any real sense then they also should have the right to say sorry no thanks i want to keep my own form

star child said we can't why can't we it's just the reapers being sick bullys who get to turn us in to what ever they want and that is a win in biowares eyes sorry no man that choice is stupid