This is to try and help those who are having problems dealing with dragoons/ bombers and how to deal with collectors so they are not so brutal and try to make to the make the game abit easier for everyone.
For those who are having a hard time with the new....
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:34
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enemies, Overall game difficulty, what about the gaMe are you having a hard time with? Anything you may have questions about with regards to dealing with these new enemies? Post builds you commonly use and maybe some players on the forums can help in some way that better dealswith the new enemies/difficulty.
This is to try and help those who are having problems dealing with dragoons/ bombers and how to deal with collectors so they are not so brutal and try to make to the make the game abit easier for everyone.
This is to try and help those who are having problems dealing with dragoons/ bombers and how to deal with collectors so they are not so brutal and try to make to the make the game abit easier for everyone.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:40
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The Praetorian's weakpoint is not the head, but the mouth (more precisely, the part where the skulls are). Any kind of AP mod or ammo, and you'll be able to hit the weakpoint from every angle.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:42
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BiO_MaN wrote...
The Praetorian's weakpoint is not the head, but the mouth (more precisely, the part where the skulls are). Any kind of AP mod or ammo, and you'll be able to hit the weakpoint from every angle.
Thank you. Didn't know that, just shot at the generaly direction of it's head and got a headshot medal. :happy:
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:45
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Geth bombers are best dealt with fast as they can flush you from cover and usually travel in packs, they also have a zap attack that can stagger players.
Cerberus dragoon are armored and thus cannot be grabbed from cover, they behave like organics though and overload seems to stagger/stun them.
Beheading abominations will not explode them on death.
Cerberus dragoon are armored and thus cannot be grabbed from cover, they behave like organics though and overload seems to stagger/stun them.
Beheading abominations will not explode them on death.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:45
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The scions are terrible but taking out the tumours on their shoulders takes their armour down a lot quicker than hitting them elsewhere on the body, it can also interrupt them from firing if you hit them at the right time.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:46
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Heavy melee will stagger dragoons, and they can be stunned by overload and disruptor ammo.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:50
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BiO_MaN wrote...
The Praetorian's weakpoint is not the head, but the mouth (more precisely, the part where the skulls are). Any kind of AP mod or ammo, and you'll be able to hit the weakpoint from every angle.
Hmm. So right where the beak is at eh? I usually aim there but that's still good to know. If only that damn thing can swallow grenades and take massive damage. That would be awesome. Anyone know if the paladin's omni-shield can block a possessed praetorian's homing rockets?
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:51
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Looking around is probably the best tip. Don't get so focused on whats in front you that something sneaks up on you.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 09:58
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Upon seeing the first Praetorian I thought this would be a much tougher enemy. Turns out they are not that bad if you keep them at a distance.
The biggest annoyances in my opinion are the Geth bombers and Cerberus Dragoons... Its not because they'r that tough to kill, just that they are so annoying to pop up in 'batches' when you least expect them... hehe
As for the maps, I like the changes/additions. Especially the new hazard maps (and of course the new FB white layout)
The biggest annoyances in my opinion are the Geth bombers and Cerberus Dragoons... Its not because they'r that tough to kill, just that they are so annoying to pop up in 'batches' when you least expect them... hehe
As for the maps, I like the changes/additions. Especially the new hazard maps (and of course the new FB white layout)
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:02
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It seems with the dragoons people are having a hard time with the speed at which they move. I am curious to know what classes people usually use against them that they cannot be stopped quick enough to avoid the dragoons destroying the team.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:14
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Furies work great against dragoons in my opinion. Their attack is slow and they travel in packs. Bumb rush them, and you can detonate them, 1 2 3.... armored so BEs do lots of damage.... when you detonte one, they stagger... by the time you detonate each in the pack they generally all go down iand probably that chick they roll with too....)
Geth bombers go down easy to the new master of geth (paladin.... snap freeze / ed / incinerate throw out cryo and fire exposions eeeevvvverrryywheere.... ) on gold against geth its handy to bring an fqi as she can keep the bombers away from you by hacking them. They move fast and when you hack them they put a lot of distance between you and them... take them out while they are hacked (I imagine they are harder on console, they're small, its like required headshots which are a pain on console).
Also note, flying enemies (geth bombers / seeker swarms) are actually treated by the game like walking ones, so you don't have to worry about them just flying from level to level (only where a ground bound unit can move). This leads to funny situations, like on goddess watching them come up and over the ladder.
I don't think the game is harder, per se, I think the changes just invalidated a lot of older stratagies, once we adapt, the game will be right back where it was in terms of difficulty. they have done a pretty good job forcing us to use more teamwork. A lot more wipes when people don't work together..... but a team working together crushes them just as well as it ever did.
Geth bombers go down easy to the new master of geth (paladin.... snap freeze / ed / incinerate throw out cryo and fire exposions eeeevvvverrryywheere.... ) on gold against geth its handy to bring an fqi as she can keep the bombers away from you by hacking them. They move fast and when you hack them they put a lot of distance between you and them... take them out while they are hacked (I imagine they are harder on console, they're small, its like required headshots which are a pain on console).
Also note, flying enemies (geth bombers / seeker swarms) are actually treated by the game like walking ones, so you don't have to worry about them just flying from level to level (only where a ground bound unit can move). This leads to funny situations, like on goddess watching them come up and over the ladder.
I don't think the game is harder, per se, I think the changes just invalidated a lot of older stratagies, once we adapt, the game will be right back where it was in terms of difficulty. they have done a pretty good job forcing us to use more teamwork. A lot more wipes when people don't work together..... but a team working together crushes them just as well as it ever did.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:16
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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...
I don't think the game is harder, per se, I think the changes just invalidated a lot of older stratagies, once we adapt, the game will be right back where it was in terms of difficulty. they have done a pretty good job forcing us to use more teamwork. A lot more wipes when people don't work together..... but a team working together crushes them just as well as it ever did.
Agree. New units means adjusting strategies. This is why Reapers have become "easy". No need to think or re-adjust there, just play them the old way.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:29
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Adept play is masochism! I may have to stall at 70% biotic god for now. Crowd control is an issue, especially shielded/armored enemies, or the ones with barriers. Easy to get overrun even on silver.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:38
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Volus heavy Melee is a guaranteed stagger for most infantry, even Dragoons and Phantoms who get up in your face. Detonating Tech Armor and Barrier is also a good way to get them off you for a moment.
Employ hit and run tactics against collectors, and be aggressive. The longer each unit stays on the field, the more likely they will get possessed and come at you stronger. Pop Scion cysts for extra damage, and shoot Praetoreans in their little sack of skulls for big damage boosts -- they are strong, but they have big weak points.
BE VERY CAREFUL when you see a Possessed Abomination slapping your team mates around, or stalking them from behind. It explodes like a grenade upon death and it WILL kill your team mates if it's too close.
Finally the Geth Bomber. This you should be thankful for that it takes the place of Infantry with guns in echange for flushing you out of cover against the faction that punishes you the most for being out of cover. It's the new Phantom, almost. When you see it, kill it fast.
Employ hit and run tactics against collectors, and be aggressive. The longer each unit stays on the field, the more likely they will get possessed and come at you stronger. Pop Scion cysts for extra damage, and shoot Praetoreans in their little sack of skulls for big damage boosts -- they are strong, but they have big weak points.
BE VERY CAREFUL when you see a Possessed Abomination slapping your team mates around, or stalking them from behind. It explodes like a grenade upon death and it WILL kill your team mates if it's too close.
Finally the Geth Bomber. This you should be thankful for that it takes the place of Infantry with guns in echange for flushing you out of cover against the faction that punishes you the most for being out of cover. It's the new Phantom, almost. When you see it, kill it fast.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:41
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Coalmine wrote...
BE VERY CAREFUL when you see a Possessed Abomination slapping your team mates around, or stalking them from behind. It explodes like a grenade upon death and it WILL kill your team mates if it's too close.
I played my batarian sentinel last night to get my submission net point. SN is perfect for these. Hold them in place and drop them from afar.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 10:51
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HolyAvenger wrote...
Coalmine wrote...
BE VERY CAREFUL when you see a Possessed Abomination slapping your team mates around, or stalking them from behind. It explodes like a grenade upon death and it WILL kill your team mates if it's too close.
I played my batarian sentinel last night to get my submission net point. SN is perfect for these. Hold them in place and drop them from afar.
Also... You own traitorous turret might shoot it right in the middle of the team. So be carefull.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 11:02
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If you finish off abomination with a headshot it won't explode regardless if it is possessed or not
(still being human there is always space for mistakes make sure the creepy facehugger is not near you/your squaddies).
Swarms use same paths as players can (a.k.a they won't climb flat wall instead they will look for ladder ot elevations).
(still being human there is always space for mistakes make sure the creepy facehugger is not near you/your squaddies).
Swarms use same paths as players can (a.k.a they won't climb flat wall instead they will look for ladder ot elevations).
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 11:02
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Throw and Pull are very effective against Abominations. Especially to rescue teammates from being jumped or blown up. I know it's a pretty obvious tip, but those things are extremely annoying and using an Adept with either Throw, Pull or Singularity helps your team a lot. If you're doing it right, of course.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 11:07
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Everybody has way too many ops packs. Use them whenever your health gets down to 1 bar and you'll save medigel. They're also good for emergencies but I find they also often work after you die (wasting the pack).
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 11:59
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ifritanshiva wrote...
The scions are terrible but taking out the tumours on their shoulders takes their armour down a lot quicker than hitting them elsewhere on the body, it can also interrupt them from firing if you hit them at the right time.
Is that right? Well I will stop aiming for square between thier eyes and maybe I won't end up needing to be revived soooooo much. They need a debuff, they are just unbearable in pairs...but also fun!
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 12:05
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78stonewobble wrote...
Looking around is probably the best tip. Don't get so focused on whats in front you that something sneaks up on you.
But this is not the way of the typhoon.
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Posté 15 octobre 2012 - 12:10
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Datdude1970 wrote...
ifritanshiva wrote...
The scions are terrible but taking out the tumours on their shoulders takes their armour down a lot quicker than hitting them elsewhere on the body, it can also interrupt them from firing if you hit them at the right time.
Is that right? Well I will stop aiming for square between thier eyes and maybe I won't end up needing to be revived soooooo much. They need a debuff, they are just unbearable in pairs...but also fun!
Yeah, def lol. The only thing is, it can be hard to aim for those if you run around a corner and they're already shooting you in the face ha ha:lol:
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Posté 16 octobre 2012 - 02:57
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I use to get really annoyed becuase the collectors was so hard to beat but that was all bc i wasnt use to them now that i know how to deal with them i think the best way to deal with them are adepts. I usually use my fury equiped with my n7 hurricane and acolyte.
•Acolyte is great on taking away biotic barriers
•Hurrican is basicaly the best SMG
•Throw is great on keeping those suiced bombers (abominations) from grabing you or getting close
•Darkchannel is great on setting biotic detonations and eating the scions life away while teleport away from it (that goes for every other enemies)
•Annihalation is awsome for stunning your enemies, biotic detonations, restoring your barriers, increasing your speed, and great on those package retreival missions
But thats becuase of my Furys Build
•Acolyte is great on taking away biotic barriers
•Hurrican is basicaly the best SMG
•Throw is great on keeping those suiced bombers (abominations) from grabing you or getting close
•Darkchannel is great on setting biotic detonations and eating the scions life away while teleport away from it (that goes for every other enemies)
•Annihalation is awsome for stunning your enemies, biotic detonations, restoring your barriers, increasing your speed, and great on those package retreival missions
But thats becuase of my Furys Build
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