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BW, why did you add more stun to geth?


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 Recently there have been changes to the geth, what confuses me is why BW decided to give the bomber a stun gun and the combat drone stun.

Surely you noticed that the forums were annoyed of the geth mostly because of how they stunlock us and make us completely defenceless.

im sure the bombers carpet bombing was enough and the combet drone didnt need to be buffed, it was an anti infiltrator tool that can be recast just like the turret.

so why have you included more stunning attacks when everyone seemed to make it clear that it was the worst thing about the geth. are you trying to troll us?

(feel free to tell me if im wrong, that the reduction of hunters are worth it or something if thats the case)

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This. Not to mention the primes shoot through walls now too.

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The good thing about the bomber is that they have taken up spawn budget from geth primes and other more capable stun machines. Also, bombers are easy to spot and take down before they have a chance to get close. Not to mention they only go into stun gun mode after they've dropped a batch of grenades; so you have plenty of time to take them out.

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TheAdventurer29

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Primes are horrible. Bioware promised they will tone down the geth this week balance change. 25% of the game is unenjoyable.

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 I've been trying to solo gold for the challenge award, and I damned near tore my hair out with the bombers.  Being surrounded by 4 or 5 bombers at the same time as pyros/hunters and 2 primes with their combat drones almost made me want to physically cry.  I'm a silver player.  That's where I'm comfortable, but I decided to step outside of my comfort zone for the banner.  
1 second.... 1 second out from the extraction zone!!  I...I can't even....... :crying:

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If you get caught by a bomber carpet something--somewhere--through the smallest crack in a wall will take you out during your stagger dance. Be that as it may, I'll take the bomber over a hunter any day.

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AlistairsGirl wrote...

 I've been trying to solo gold for the challenge award, and I damned near tore my hair out with the bombers.  Being surrounded by 4 or 5 bombers at the same time as pyros/hunters and 2 primes with their combat drones almost made me want to physically cry.  I'm a silver player.  That's where I'm comfortable, but I decided to step outside of my comfort zone for the banner.  
1 second.... 1 second out from the extraction zone!!  I...I can't even....... :crying:


If you want revenge just play a kroguard. Makes geth a joke.

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People hate stunlock. Solution: add more stunlock.

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PencilManners wrote...

 Recently there have been changes to the geth, what confuses me is why BW decided to give the bomber a stun gun and the combat drone stun.

Surely you noticed that the forums were annoyed of the geth mostly because of how they stunlock us and make us completely defenceless.

im sure the bombers carpet bombing was enough and the combet drone didnt need to be buffed, it was an anti infiltrator tool that can be recast just like the turret.

so why have you included more stunning attacks when everyone seemed to make it clear that it was the worst thing about the geth. are you trying to troll us?

(feel free to tell me if im wrong, that the reduction of hunters are worth it or something if thats the case)



Becuase BW wants more stuns and CC than a wow 3v3 arena match

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- Geth Trooper : Melee stuns
- Hunters : Each shot stuns. Fires three shots consecutively no matter how (stased, levitated, frozen, staggered). Melee stuns
- Rocket Launchers : Each shot stuns. If they have a player in sight, when exiting cover, they will shot an additional rocket prior to the regular one. Rockets have an homing capacity, sometimes making them bend at 90°+. One rocket will leave 95% characters at shield or health gate. Melee stuns
- Geth Prime : Each shot stun. Fire three shots consecutively. Each shot has an homing capacity, effectively enabling them to hit players going on cover, sometimes making the shot bend at 90°+. Melee stuns. Spawns up to 3 turrets, even though wall. Spawn also a Combat Drone that will take a walk around the map and fire an incineration capable of staggering players.
- Geth Bomber : Small extra fast flying unit that drop a salvo of 5 stunning grenades. Has also a close range stunning attack.

Dear BW, don't you think stunning/staggering for Geths is a little bit exagerated ?

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Do not stay in one place when the bombers come for you, otherwise you will find yourself surrounded by them. Try moving a little during the match.

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Seeing as how I am usually playing the N7 Destroyer ( who is immune to stuns and staggers) I didn't realize how much stunning was going on until I was the only one still fighting a geth prime while my team was dancing behind me.

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thatdude90210 wrote...

People hate stunlock. Solution: add more stunlock.



Bioware logic at it's finest.

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AlistairsGirl

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etm125 wrote...

AlistairsGirl wrote...

 I've been trying to solo gold for the challenge award, and I damned near tore my hair out with the bombers.  Being surrounded by 4 or 5 bombers at the same time as pyros/hunters and 2 primes with their combat drones almost made me want to physically cry.  I'm a silver player.  That's where I'm comfortable, but I decided to step outside of my comfort zone for the banner.  
1 second.... 1 second out from the extraction zone!!  I...I can't even....... :crying:


If you want revenge just play a kroguard. Makes geth a joke.


Haha, I was.  I was doing really really well too for my second try.  My first try I died midway through wave 10 objective and had no medigel left.  I was gutted.  

My second try was nerve racking and wave 9 was my problem round (using 3 medigel), but because my objective rounds were so kind to me (hack/escort/hack) I got to wave 11 with 2 gels/4 rockets/5ops/5thermals and kited the enemies while I waited for the countdown.  I got distracted for a bit then noticed the timer was down to something like 15 seconds, and in a panic I charged a prime that was blocking the door and rocketted him so he would get out of the way, completely forgetting that when they die the area they died in becomes unpassable for a second or two.  I sprinted to the extraction zone, but missed it by literally 1 second.  

Again, I am primarily a silver player.  Gold scares me and I don't dare play it outside of my kroguard vs geth.   I've never screamed and raged over a game before, but I was so angry with myself I had to turn it off, lol!

I'll try again tomorrow.  I'm determined to do it!  Twice!

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iTz JoNeSy

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Try using a typhoon or beam rifle. They literaly stops firing every second. It's quite pathetic and cheap. I for one, if was being shot at, would hold the trigger down so hard and not stop firing. I don't know why these big bad N7 soldiers stop firing.

Modifié par GJ88, 15 octobre 2012 - 04:50 .


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PencilManners wrote...

 Recently there have been changes to the geth, what confuses me is why BW decided to give the bomber a stun gun and the combat drone stun.

Surely you noticed that the forums were annoyed of the geth mostly because of how they stunlock us and make us completely defenceless.

im sure the bombers carpet bombing was enough and the combet drone didnt need to be buffed, it was an anti infiltrator tool that can be recast just like the turret.

so why have you included more stunning attacks when everyone seemed to make it clear that it was the worst thing about the geth. are you trying to troll us?

(feel free to tell me if im wrong, that the reduction of hunters are worth it or something if thats the case)


I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt here, and say that there are balance changes coming for the geth.  The major changes put in were done in the patch and balance tuning will be coming here shortly.  I also think that the reapers will be getting a buff of some sort.

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I think they need another stun unit. Maybe give the Pyro a stun.

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Blkpanthr67

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Pyro doesnt need a stun as you cant run away fast enough before they fry you anyway...

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thatdude90210 wrote...

People hate stunlock. Solution: add more stunlock.


This. A lot of developers follow this pattern. I don't mean to derail but i played Modern Warfare 3 with my friends and I came across a little thing called "Dead Man's Hand" Essentially, I killed the guy, he fell to the ground then exploded with the blast radius of a Possessed Abomination. This was a glitch in the previous Modern Warfare, but they decided to incorporate into their game. WTF?