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Yet another Dragoon thread. [Buff it]


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#51
sentinel_87

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Angelwave wrote...
Also please give them a unique voice.  Sounding like a Centurian, is down right insulting to the Dragoons.  It would also give players an auditory "cue" as well.


This is needed.  The multiplayer characters also do not call out "dragoons", whenever the spawn either.  I bet the vorcha would have a great line here as always.

#52
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[quote]Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I still maintain that if Nemesis AI was fixed to be more dangerous (grouping up), some kind of dangerous melee; that would fix the easiness of the race.[/quote]

I'm all for a Nemesis buff. They're why Cerberus was considered a joke pre patch.

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I think nemesis have received a small AI bump - I noticed it while soloing - if there are three nemesis, they they sync their shots now, and drop you the health  gate in less than a second. I did not notice this behaviour pre patch.

#53
Jay_Hoxtatron

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longgamma wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...



I'm all for a Nemesis buff. They're why Cerberus was considered a joke pre patch.


I think nemesis have received a small AI bump - I noticed it while soloing - if there are three nemesis, they they sync their shots now, and drop you the health  gate in less than a second. I did not notice this behaviour pre patch.


Fixed. ;) You misquoted me. And I didn't notice anything weird about Nemesis post-patch.

Ramsutin wrote...

Also L2P, IIRC you died twice in that one platinum match we played when you were playing an off host Drellguard. :D


Must be luck ^_^.


Nicla Karsavina wrote...

Well, actually you're asking for a nerf. 



I'd call this an AI enhancement.  :whistle:

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 15 octobre 2012 - 08:41 .


#54
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Why not also give him a Cain and allow him to teleport to anywhere on the map...

Oh, and if you look directly at him you enter stasis.

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E71 wrote...

Why not also give him a Cain and allow him to teleport to anywhere on the map...

Oh, and if you look directly at him you enter stasis.


So... You agree with me then?

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

 
inB4 Go back to bronze.




:o what lunatic would tell you to go back to Bronze?!

#57
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Shpoon wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

 
inB4 Go back to bronze.




:o what lunatic would tell you to go back to Bronze?!


Me. He needs to go back to Bronze. Guy can't melee for ****.:whistle:

#58
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Haha, if one of the game's elite players says something needs a buff then it actually needs a nerf because it is too difficult for the rest of us average players.

Seriously though, Dragoon's are pretty easy unless you get them get close to you. If they surround you then you are going to get killed by their crazy smash spam with no cooldown. But if you let any enemy surround you then you will most likely get killed anyway. It is just the speed at which Dragoon's surround you is amazing. Any buff to them would need to come with a decrease to their movement speed.

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Kenadian wrote...

Shpoon wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

 
inB4 Go back to bronze.




:o what lunatic would tell you to go back to Bronze?!


Me. He needs to go back to Bronze. Guy can't melee for ****.:whistle:


Oooooooooo...those are fightin' words.  You gonna stand for that Jay?

*pops popcorn*

#60
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Angelwave wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Shpoon wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

 
inB4 Go back to bronze.




:o what lunatic would tell you to go back to Bronze?!


Me. He needs to go back to Bronze. Guy can't melee for ****.:whistle:


Oooooooooo...those are fightin' words.  You gonna stand for that Jay?

*pops popcorn*


I could totally beat him.

If he had no gun.

#61
Jay_Hoxtatron

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Angelwave wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Shpoon wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

 
inB4 Go back to bronze.




:o what lunatic would tell you to go back to Bronze?!


Me. He needs to go back to Bronze. Guy can't melee for ****.:whistle:


Oooooooooo...those are fightin' words.  You gonna stand for that Jay?

*pops popcorn*



/lame excuse mode : it's the wonky melee autotrack that always makes me meleeing the air :wizard:

#62
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Agreed.
It would at least slow 'em down some and give us some breathing room.
Either that or it's time to ditch the 4 devices missions or allow us to resume them. I'm sick of being thrown off by dragoons with a second left and have to start over.

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Tone down the FTL Speeds, their use of the hornet, make them take cover occasionally, make them a tactical player and we are golden. He is not a mindless husk, the Collector troopers are smarter than these guys.

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Dragoons are fine as is. Maybe increase their armor, but decrease the amount that spawn. So far, they're pretty squishy armor characters.

That said, I think nemesis should be able to stealth/snipe. Basically let them use tactical cloak for even more damage against us. Stealth also lets them snipe in peace w/o us being able to target them with overload -- make them a long distance geth hunter.

#65
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Dragoons are perfect as they are (apart from being a little too fast).

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They should take cover more. I mean, they are human. Not robots. They should care about their own lives.

They should be slown down. They should also have their Commando lunge decreased.

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Warp-->Shoot= Dead Dragoon.
Asari slide also gets right outta the way and then you can just light em up. I don't see where all the Dragoon hate comes from.

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Bioware will be soon releasing new character and new weapons within the new Retaliation.

Dragoon will dealt with with a Drell Infiltrator, basically throw out a recon mine that will fry those ****ers

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ForThessia wrote...

Warp-->Shoot= Dead Dragoon.
Asari slide also gets right outta the way and then you can just light em up. I don't see where all the Dragoon hate comes from.


It comes from the manner in which they fight, not how difficult they are to kill individually.

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We told them about all the problems with Geth and Reapers so they infect Cerberus with those problems too. Yeah, BW listens to us, just to laugh.

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I'd almost consider this to be a nerf to him. Most of the reason I have trouble dealing with Dragoons is because of my tendency for one-shot weapons and his tendency to sprint around like a hamster on caffeine.


I'd love it if the whip-happy bastards would take cover - they tear up Adepts up close.

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Angelwave wrote...

So basically ....tweak it then?  I'm all for it  Playing against the different factions this weekend, the Dragoons do stand out as....umm.....pretty much "unfinished", in the AI area.

Also please give them a unique voice.  Sounding like a Centurian, is down right insulting to the Dragoons.  It would also give players an auditory "cue" as well.


"DRAGOON SMASH!"

Would that work?

#73
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This is just MY opinion...but I like the swarming thing, it gives Cerberus their edge back.
However, I think they should flat out LOSE the hornet and also...THEY NEED TO MAKE NOISE!!

Making them take cover would nearly remove their Kamikaze style.