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#51
ZigarrAlo

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Broganisity wrote...

It was made specifically for use by me.

All others need not apply...In fact, just give me all your Crusaders so I can have Crusader CIXII!

Bioware, make it happen!


me too. I really love it. Pop of the heads. ( in every range)

#52
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It's not that bad, but mainly due to its weight and not so good DPS it has only a very small niche. It's true that in most cases you'll find better weapon to do the job. But it's very decent, and the lag thing isn't that much of a big deal, if you aim well you can score headshots very easily.

It can be useful IMO if you want to play a melee character with a shotgun omniblade (the best melee upgrade in the whole game) and have a weapon that can pierce cover and complement the usual lack of range for when it's too dangerous to melee with its long range and accuracy. But you need to be able to take the weight.

Modifié par Dream-Maker, 21 octobre 2012 - 10:10 .


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Diogo Marzo

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I have a crusader III and I love the thing. It hits hard, is dead accurate and doesn't cut off all periphery vision when aiming. Because it does the damage at all ranges, the weight doesn't bother me as its the only weapon I equip... When I use it. Don't get all the hate: it's one of the most unique weapons available.

#54
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Nobody knows, why the Crusader exists.
It tries to fill a niche, that just isn't there.

#55
OniGanon

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The Crusader is a high damage per shot, high damage per second weapon that is effective at all ranges and can shoot through Guardian shields while also carrying a melee mod, without any great sacrifice in mod choice.

CardboredSquare wrote...
When there's guns like the Saber (which outperforms it in everyway)


Every single way, huh?

Saber
Damage: 427.9-534.8
ROF: 80RPM
DPS (single clip): 570.53-713.07
DPS (sustained, reload cancelled): 467.01-583.68

Crusader
Damage: 630.7-788.4
ROF: 80RPM
DPS (single clip): 840.93-1051.2
DPS (sustained, NOT reload cancelled: 560.62-700.8

You're right. The Saber is simply overflowing with advantages over the Crusader.

#56
Ronnie Blastoff

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The crusader is the deadliest shotgun overall, once you learn to aim with it and control its power. Its a beast in the hands of someone who is good at headshots and shooting from across the map. I've shot swarmers on rio across the map with the crusader.

Its all about the aim, and honestly the people that don't like the crusader are usually the ones that can't aim with it.

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ForThessia wrote...

tivesz wrote...

So it can lower my chances to level up my Hurricane...



#58
LC-Manalishi

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To the OPs original question, I wish it DIDN'T exist. Got one in this weekend's Commendation pack and I have no use for it at all. I want my Hurricane upgraded!

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Perfect for melee characters that have no worry of cool down . Why does everyone compare it to the saber ? It is my favorite gun on certain characters .

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CardboredSquare wrote...

Why does the N7 Crusader exist


So it can be happy

#61
P51Mus7ang

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Buddy I play with carries this often.....it must be made for him as he is always rolling headshot awards....especially Phantoms

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I think its design is flawed from the beginning, no matter how you think of it. As a shotgun, its better at longer ranges than usual for a shotgun and fire only one pellet(or slug). As a sniper, its doesn't have the range of a scope and lacks accuracy thanks to the aim delay.

Modifié par Mozts, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:09 .


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The Crusader is a sniper rifle without the scope (ME3's scope is annoying IMO, so that's a plus) and no hipfire penalty. The concept is nice. Problem's the implementation.

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Cyonan wrote...

If it weren't for the strange aiming thing, it would actually be a very good shotgun.

The issue is that it doesn't exactly always shoot where you're aiming.


This is really the only issue I have it with right now.

I've used it a bit and I've grown to like it somehow and with the buffs it's gotten it definitely feels like it has a place in the game... but, that aiming thing. :pinched:

Basically, it's a weapon that requires you do to extra work without offering a really juicy reward.

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well, we already have pistols trying to be sniper rifles(carnifex, paladin) and ARs trying to be sniper rifles(Saber), so it makes sense that we also get a shotgun trying to be a sniper rifle.

Now we just need an SMG trying to be a sniper rifle! Snipeify ALL the weapon categories!

#66
E_rik

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It's there so I can slap it on all of my classes.
Seriously.
I cant enough of my crusader <3

Too bad RNG gave me a Valiant from bloodlust.

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Crusader 1 dmg = 630.7
Add 10% for Shotgun Amp 1, 25% for extended barrel, and 17.5% for dmg bonus for class passive (lowball average I seem to get for weapon classes, usually a bit higher) = 52.5% dmg bonus

630.7 * 1.525) = 961.8 dmg per shot with no pellet spread. I'm pretty sure this staggers most small enemies with each hit. I could be mistaken though. AND...

961.8 *2.5(headshot bonus) = 2404.5 dmg for a headshot... that 1 shot kills for mooks on Gold with a headshot...then, you have 3 more rounds in the mag.

I wield it with destroyer, Batarians, Turians and Krogan's occasionally. Thinking of rocking it with the Asari Vanguard with Stasis too. Cooldowns may be long, but if you take time to learn the weapon, not unlike learning the Kishock or the Graal, it is well worth the invested time.

Stabilization modules come in handy too.

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How are they better than Crusader if:
DPS: Saber 583 VS GPS 532 VS Graal 601 VS Crusader 890
Penetration: Saber 0 VS GPS 0 VS Graal 0 VS Crusader 0.50 cm
The only thing that they are better at is weight, but for classes like Destroyer it doesn't matter.
+ the only mods that Crusader requires are Spare Thermal Clip and High Caliber/Velocity Barrel.
+ GPS somtimes doesn't register hit
+ they take forever to reload in comparison to Crusader

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Crusader is amazing.

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I have Crusader VI, and with Hurricane VI on Destroyer its hell of a combination. And if you can't bother with hipfire headshots, you can allways just emptying clip after clip on large targets like Praetorian. They go down quick, just like ammo count :lol:

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OniGanon wrote...

The Crusader is a high damage per shot, high damage per second weapon that is effective at all ranges and can shoot through Guardian shields while also carrying a melee mod, without any great sacrifice in mod choice.

CardboredSquare wrote...
When there's guns like the Saber (which outperforms it in everyway)


Every single way, huh?

Saber
Damage: 427.9-534.8
ROF: 80RPM
DPS (single clip): 570.53-713.07
DPS (sustained, reload cancelled): 467.01-583.68

Crusader
Damage: 630.7-788.4
ROF: 80RPM
DPS (single clip): 840.93-1051.2
DPS (sustained, NOT reload cancelled: 560.62-700.8

You're right. The Saber is simply overflowing with advantages over the Crusader.


+1

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An English Gamer wrote...

Because a mediocre shotgun with N7 on the front of it's name hadn't been thought of yet.


Fixed that for you.  

Modifié par Hyperglide, 21 octobre 2012 - 05:04 .


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I was one of the peeps who didn't get their commendation packs immediately after completing this week's challenge. 12 hours later my commendation pack appeared and i got a Crusader. Most disappoint. All i want are Valiant and Hurricane upgrades. The Eagle and the Crusader are useless POS

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CardboredSquare wrote...

When there's guns like the Saber (which outperforms it in everyway), the GPS, and the Graal (both of which fufill the long range shotgun role)?


While most people use the graal as a sniper, the crusader has four shots compared to the graal's one. Also a change in weaponry can be fun.

Also, some classes use gear bonuses to shotguns instead of ARs, etc. So it depends on your build. Some classes have shotguns weigh 30% less or something, so, to improve cooldown, may go with the shotgun instead of the Assault rifle.

As for the GPS, sure it's longrange, but it's no sniper rifle. It doesn't match graal/crusader/claymore in accuracy by a long shot.

#75
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If it didn't have the shot delay, it would probably be my favorite gun in the game. As it stands right now, I won't touch the thing. Cyonan's discovery needs to be pushed higher in the patching priority list.