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[NightAntilli]

Operator m1 wrote...

NightAntilli wrote...

Fire rate and reload speed are decent, especially for its damage. I actually like the Crusader. If there's an N7 gun to complain about, it's the Eagle.

Hey, the eagle puts most of the AR category to shame, especially with the new heavy barrel. Only problem with it is the fact it's bumping shoulders with the scorpion/acolyte in the pistol slot.

I don't like the recoil on it. I'm personally more effective with the M3-Predator than with the Eagle.. 

[Uchimura]

Earlier I used it with HVB and Shredder. Dat cover penetration. Hoo.

[Volkai7]

Crusader is the only shotgun that fires slugs instead of pellets or toroids. Don't like it? Don't use it.

[KiraTsukasa]

Chealec wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I can only laugh at everyone saying "It doesn't shoot where I aim!"

Truly, truly amusing.

Well, it's either that or it fires blanks about 50% of the time for me. I mean I've had it not connect on Cerberus Turrets and it's not like they're running about the map. I honestly have better success headshotting Phantoms with the Javelin than the Crusader.

I might try it again next time I host a game to see if it's lag related but it really doesn't seem to fire "right" for me - which is a shame as I kinda like it on the Human Soldier otherwise.

I'll tell you the secret.

The Crusader is similar to the Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower in that the gun is NOT hitscan. That means the shot fired does have travel time and can (and most often will) miss if the target moves even slightly. The "blank shots" that you experience are actually shots in which you flat out missed the target.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Chealec wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I can only laugh at everyone saying "It doesn't shoot where I aim!"

Truly, truly amusing.

Well, it's either that or it fires blanks about 50% of the time for me. I mean I've had it not connect on Cerberus Turrets and it's not like they're running about the map. I honestly have better success headshotting Phantoms with the Javelin than the Crusader.

I might try it again next time I host a game to see if it's lag related but it really doesn't seem to fire "right" for me - which is a shame as I kinda like it on the Human Soldier otherwise.

I'll tell you the secret.

The Crusader is similar to the Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower in that the gun is NOT hitscan. That means the shot fired does have travel time and can (and most often will) miss if the target moves even slightly. The "blank shots" that you experience are actually shots in which you flat out missed the target.

I've noticed this "fireing blanks" problem with the crusader, its not hitscan, it just is "off" when you fire it before it resets to a stable position somtimes, simular to how the falcon acts when you fire before the gun completely stabalizes itself after a recoil. Hitscan acts different, the shots are instant on target if you let the guns recoil wear off.

[CptSketch13]

i love my crusader, i put the piercing barrel and mod on it and it kills all. especially effective on the destroyer

[KiraTsukasa]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Chealec wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I can only laugh at everyone saying "It doesn't shoot where I aim!"

Truly, truly amusing.

Well, it's either that or it fires blanks about 50% of the time for me. I mean I've had it not connect on Cerberus Turrets and it's not like they're running about the map. I honestly have better success headshotting Phantoms with the Javelin than the Crusader.

I might try it again next time I host a game to see if it's lag related but it really doesn't seem to fire "right" for me - which is a shame as I kinda like it on the Human Soldier otherwise.

I'll tell you the secret.

The Crusader is similar to the Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower in that the gun is NOT hitscan. That means the shot fired does have travel time and can (and most often will) miss if the target moves even slightly. The "blank shots" that you experience are actually shots in which you flat out missed the target.

I've noticed this "fireing blanks" problem with the crusader, its not hitscan, it just is "off" when you fire it before it resets to a stable position somtimes, simular to how the falcon acts when you fire before the gun completely stabalizes itself after a recoil. Hitscan acts different, the shots are instant on target if you let the guns recoil wear off.

Not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but hitscan means that when you fire the gun, the shot will hit whatever obstacle the reticle is pointing at instantly when you fire. All guns are hit scan except for Crusader, GPS, Graal, Kishock, Krysae, Falcon, Striker,  Acolyte, and Scorpion, whose shots all require travel time.

[Wynne]

sclera wrote...

Wynne wrote...

I don't think a Promotional weapon should be some elite thing which has such a staggering disadvantage that only a few people can use it well. 

"Must know how to aim" is not a staggering disadvantage. I think people get lazy when they play mass effect, thinking their powers will do the aiming for them so they don't even try. I think you should all give the Crusader a shot, you'll surprise yourselves. 

I've given it a shot already, and I can aim just fine with most weapons. Not this one, however. "Must know how to aim" is not the Crusader's problem at all. "Must calculate where the enemy is moving to" is.

See the thread I linked to. 

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I can only laugh at everyone saying "It doesn't shoot where I aim!"

Truly, truly amusing.

Yes. Stating facts is somehow hilarious.... Apparently, both of you missed this link.

And have never experienced lag.

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Well, it's either that or it fires blanks about 50% of the time for me. I mean I've had it not connect on Cerberus Turrets and it's not like they're running about the map. I honestly have better success headshotting Phantoms with the Javelin than the Crusader.

I might try it again next time I host a game to see if it's lag related but it really doesn't seem to fire "right" for me - which is a shame as I kinda like it on the Human Soldier otherwise.

I'll tell you the secret.

The Crusader is similar to the Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower in that the gun is NOT hitscan. That means the shot fired does have travel time and can (and most often will) miss if the target moves even slightly. The "blank shots" that you experience are actually shots in which you flat out missed the target.

Ah, so you were in fact aware that the gun has peculiarities, yet felt compelled to laugh at people who were having completely reasonable trouble with those peculiarities?

I do not understand your attitude. It seems... uncharitable and rude, to say the least. Which makes it all the stranger that you then mention this perspective on the Crusader's workings to someone.

Still, the average person, quite justifiably, does not like having to wait until a target is not moving "even slightly" and prefers a weapon that simply hits when fired. That is neither shocking nor a sign of a lack of skill. It is a sign that the weapon in question is finicky and not everyone will want to deal with it, which is awfully strange for a promotional weapon.

IndomitusRex wrote...

The Crusader is the perfect companion for my favourite character, the Batarian Sentinel. I spec my Bat Sentinel for melee damage, so I don't really need a close range shotgun. I've got Submission Net to line up nice easy headshots on Phantoms, Nemeses, and other such nuisances. It's got built in AP, so I'm free to use a melee mod and a straight damage increase. It's got a decent clip (for a shotgun), and it reloads quickly. It also hits like a frigging truck.

That's an interesting thought... but when I look at +195% recharge time vs. +56% after the weight capacity upgrade on my BatSent, it's hard to imagine trading in my lovely Indra IV. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] I like getting TBs with his powers, and Submission Net tends to get dodged, so a fast CD is important to me.

[mybudgee]

I cannot use it... awful with it

[STRANGE10VE]

I was never a big fan until I tried it on kits with stun powers. It is really good on SI and TGI but you really have to practice.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

KiraTsukasa wrote...


Not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but hitscan means that when you fire the gun, the shot will hit whatever obstacle the reticle is pointing at instantly when you fire. All guns are hit scan except for Crusader, GPS, Graal, Kishock, Krysae, Falcon, Striker,  Acolyte, and Scorpion, whose shots all require travel time.

Just pointing out that unlike the weapons you mentioned. (Scorpion falcon krysae GPS and Graal I could bet my life on) The Crusader does instantly hit the target when you fire simular to say the revenant or black widow. There is no "bullet travel time" between when you hit the trigger and it impacts the target. The "missing shots" I was talking about comes from not letting the recoil of the gun reset simular to how the falcon was having issues before it was corrected. By alowing the recoil to reset, you slow down the DPS of the weapon, but its better than not having any bullets fire from the gun at all.

[elessarz]

It's been said already but it's worth repeating that the Crusader is a good shotgun very much damaged by its (in my humble opinion) exaggerated weight.

That said, the Saber has the advantage if your plan is to get headshots.

[Influ]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but hitscan means that when you fire the gun, the shot will hit whatever obstacle the reticle is pointing at instantly when you fire. All guns are hit scan except for Crusader, GPS, Graal, Kishock, Krysae, Falcon, Striker,  Acolyte, and Scorpion, whose shots all require travel time.

The Crusader has a slight delay between the moment you pull the trigger and when the shot is actually fired. Despite that, it's still a hitscan weapon. The shot will hit the target instantly when it is fired. There is no actual projectile with travel time, like is the case with the GPS, Kishock, Graal etc.

The shots will also always hit the spot you are aiming at at the time of pulling the trigger, not the spot where your crosshair is when the shot is actually fired. This is why you have to lead your shots slightly against moving targets and why the Crusader feels weird in general.

[neverhadspam]

use it on the demolisher and arc grenades hold everyone in place for you..

[Heldarion]

Crusader exists so you unlock it instead of Hurricane.

[LtAdams2247 Origin]

staindgrey wrote...

tivesz wrote...

So it can lower my chances to level up my Hurricane...

I have a Crusader VI. And a Hurricane I.

I feel your pain. A lot.

Only four short weekend ops and you'll never have to see it again. How do you feel about the Eagle ;-)

[CardboredSquare]

So I used it and I was not doing as well as I was with the Saber. I swear there's something odd about it's aim. The slow RoF and small clip didn't help either. Guess I'm going back to the Saber.