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[Mozts]

I don't look at them at all.

[Road Wulf]

I tend to only play Bronze for 2 reasons when I do:

#1 I'm soloing for fun.

#2 I've played enough PUG Silver and Gold and have had enough of relying on completely useless people and would like to play somewhere where other people don't matter.

[VaultingFrog]

alhamel94 wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...

you people are really awful listeners. first off majority of people wont kick for a build, especially if you score over 100k in the previous game
second reading this thread the majority of you are wrong.
bsn does not look down on bronze players. go ahead and count how many do and how many dont. also count the number of people who said that they think the bsn does but they dont.

http://social.biowar.../index/14517175

For your reading pleasure.

okay so i read through and most people entirely disagree and ridicule the op, dont quite understand what you are getting at. almost no one agreed with him

The point is that the thread I linked you is just one out of countless thousands with the same theme behind them. Elitism is still going very strong on BSN. Oh no doubt there are plenty of simpathetic people on here too but they rarely make threads about such things. On a more frequent basis however the mighty e-peens of BSN get demands from crappy places to post about their "godlyness" or other such non-sense.

I dont particularly have time, no the inclination, to search for a comprehensive list to give you. I just wanted you to open your eyes and be aware that the validity of what many have posted in this thread is there. In many cases lower difficulty players are hated upon. And quite a few that hate upon them end up on BSN to post about it.

Beyond that, the people who replied in that thread, myself included, are the regular few who end up posting replies in other threads of similar make sticking up for the little guys. It gets old after a while but I keep doing it.

[alhamel94]

VaultingFrog wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...

alhamel94 wrote...

you people are really awful listeners. first off majority of people wont kick for a build, especially if you score over 100k in the previous game
second reading this thread the majority of you are wrong.
bsn does not look down on bronze players. go ahead and count how many do and how many dont. also count the number of people who said that they think the bsn does but they dont.

http://social.biowar.../index/14517175

For your reading pleasure.

okay so i read through and most people entirely disagree and ridicule the op, dont quite understand what you are getting at. almost no one agreed with him

The point is that the thread I linked you is just one out of countless thousands with the same theme behind them. Elitism is still going very strong on BSN. Oh no doubt there are plenty of simpathetic people on here too but they rarely make threads about such things. On a more frequent basis however the mighty e-peens of BSN get demands from crappy places to post about their "godlyness" or other such non-sense.

I dont particularly have time, no the inclination, to search for a comprehensive list to give you. I just wanted you to open your eyes and be aware that the validity of what many have posted in this thread is there. In many cases lower difficulty players are hated upon. And quite a few that hate upon them end up on BSN to post about it.

Beyond that, the people who replied in that thread, myself included, are the regular few who end up posting replies in other threads of similar make sticking up for the little guys. It gets old after a while but I keep doing it.

for everyone that posts an elitist thread there are at least 8 others that reply bashing the elitism, so my point is saying that bsn looks down on bronze players is an incorrect statement, in fact i have evidence that sugggests that bsn as a comunity does not look down on bronze players. im sure there are plenty of elitist threads but what im saying is that there are more people that disagree with them than agree.

[Boog_89]

The only players I look down on are the people in gold lobbies who ready up with things like a pheaston IV and no equipment. Seriously...

[VaultingFrog]

alhamel94 wrote...

for everyone that posts an elitist thread there are at least 8 others that reply bashing the elitism, so my point is saying that bsn looks down on bronze players is an incorrect statement, in fact i have evidence that sugggests that bsn as a comunity does not look down on bronze players. im sure there are plenty of elitist threads but what im saying is that there are more people that disagree with them than agree.

As I said its alot of the same people posting over and over again in reply to those kinds of threads. Sure it may be 8 replys but if its the same 8 replying to each thread its not exactly sweeping ratio like you think.

But then again thats a battle of opinions in which neither of us will win. Points have been made, I say call it a day.

[endlessroundz]

I don't look down on bronze players but I do look down on low experienced players trying to start out on gold.

[Epsilon330]

Not from what i've seen.
But if they only deem themselves Bronze capable, it seems a lot of people here would prefer it if they stayed there. Going by that logic, I should still be fighting one ATLAS per wave, instead of soloing Silver every now and then, and treating Gold as I did Bronze.
Of course, someone who has little self-confidence should steer away from Gold and Platinum to avoid horror stories, but a few baby-steps into Silver can work wonders.

[Talvaris]

I don't judge those who play on bronze though if they have a lvl 12 or higher I might ask them why they haven't tried silver and if they mention that they are just comfortable playing on that difficulty well then I'm okay with that. Not everyone enjoys a fight where the enemy is a lot harder then when you were on bronze especially if you try a plat match.

[Zero132132]

I'm going to say this; I think even most elitist snobs on this site are alright with the fact that there are people who play bronze, and they're okay with those people playing on bronze. What NO ONE likes is when bronze-level players jump into Gold or Platinum hoping to be carried so that they can have an easy payday.

[TheAshenPhoenix]

yes, and no. at least to me, generally I dont look down upon bronze players. I understand that they could be just starting out, taking a break, or just casual players. anytime I see a low ranker/someone who needs help I do my best to help them, bronze players are totally fine to me. However people who play higher difficulties do tend to be better most of the time, so while I dont look down upon them, I do expect to generally score higher than them. and the only time I dislike bronze players is when they vote to insta kick you or troll you when you yourself are a high rank and are ethier A. taking a break from platnuims and just want something ****** easy, or B. a lvl 1 and trying out a new build. but thats more of a specfic preference thing and not really all bronze players.

[Ryan_H]

I love bronze players as long as they stay in bronze!

[An English Gamer]

If they start expressing opinions towards stuff being overpowered then of course.






That makes me sound that a right **** buts it's reasonable.

Modifié par An English Gamer, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:53 .

[TheAshenPhoenix]

An English Gamer wrote...

If they start expressing opinions towards stuff being overpowered then of course.

I think they fall into the same catagorey as those who are generally disliked even if not bronze players though

its not the power its the player

Modifié par Phoenix535, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:54 .

[Xaijin]

I don't have an issue with people who only play the easiest level.

I do have an issue with people calling for balance changes while only playing one mode of the game.

[OuterRim]

I like popping into a bronze lobby now and then, although I haven't done it in awhile. I now have several friends from such lobbies that I play gold with. Yesterdays Bronze players are todays Gold players so don't look too down on them.

[Computron2000]

I only have an issue with people playing bronze is when they are obviously just trying to get an ego boost, basically the n3000+, UR X weapon holders, Grenade cap 5 gearheads, level 3/4 consumables on bronze. Its screwing with people playing bronze trying to learn.

[Acacia Meridian]

Yes, a little bit.

I can play Silver. I enjoy it actually, if I've got a good group of friends and I'm not lagging a ridiculous amount (which, since the last patch, the latter has become a problem). With randoms...I don't want to take the risk of lagging and disconnecting from the server. It's not fair on me or them (because they're down a person and lose all of my points towards the total).

[CaliJoe090]

Road Wulf wrote...

I tend to only play Bronze for 2 reasons when I do:

#1 I'm soloing for fun.

#2 I've played enough PUG Silver and Gold and have had enough of relying on completely useless people and would like to play somewhere where other people don't matter.

I agree with this. I get tired of Rambos.

[u21]

Look no further than this special snowflake.
http://social.biowar.../index/14531175

[Outlawstar15a2]

I do not look down on them. Only the ones who play bronze and then try to **** that something is OP since their seeking to influence change without the wisdom to go with it. But normally I have a tolerant attitude, I even allow them to join some of my gold matches as long as they are capable of handling it and willing to learn.

[Lajkos]

Kalas321 wrote...

yes.

[Wynne]

 I am Gold-capable, not the best player ever but I think slightly above average, at least from what I've seen in random matches.
But you know what? I still play Bronze sometimes. If I promote and want to re-level, or want to solo for the practice with a character, or just friggin' feel like it, like when I don't know the map I'm going to play on yet. 

Reasons people might stick to Bronze: 

• Bad luck--i.e. disgust with bad experiences with lots of randoms who aren't team players and don't have the first clue about how to even be respectful
• Difficulty performing under pressure
• A stressful real life, which leads to less interest in stressful gaming
• A lack of kickass friends who can help them make the transition to higher difficulties (I tried Silver once I had a frequent gaming partner and we were both confident--I might've stayed there, if not for excellent players on my list who poked me continually to try Gold; after that I farmed FBWGG with randoms until I had the courage to venture into real Gold play.)
• Being a less experienced/more casual gamer in general, for whom the feeling of pwning everything is all the fun they need
• A lack of free time.
• Illness. (I had Lyme for months, and due to the sometimes excruciating joint pain I didn't play at all, but if I had, it would've been Bronze.) 

And you'll notice, with the really excellent players of this game, they don't look down on Bronze players. They don't expect everyone to be as hardcore as they are. They're smart, decent people who get that there is a world outside this game.

For me, even if I were able to solo Platinum, I think the important thing is, you play!!! That's cool, period. 

Most of the time, outside of BSN, people you talk to won't have a clue what Mass Effect even is. So maybe we should just respect our own community a little bit.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

I play on Bronze, simply because I like to experiment with weird setups, and don't want my teammates to revive me ever five seconds.

[NikkoJT]

I think yes, Bronze players (and sometimes Silver players) are looked down on. There's a lot of "oh, you tested it on Bronze/Silver? Well that means both you and your results are irrelevant!" going around. I don't think it's entirely fair.

This happens in other games too, for what it's worth, particularly MMOs. New players get insulted, misled, scammed, patronized, laughed at, and treated as if they're stupid or as if they shouldn't even be playing ("you're terrible find another game"/"go back to WoW"/"scrub").