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[Emzamination]

I want to roleplay a ruthless self serving bloodmage, but the thing is it's the only class I don't know how to Build  as I might end up putting too much constitution.

Side note : I always play on nightmare so please keep that in mine Guise, thx

[Blazomancer]

Here is a build that I think works quite well as a nuker blood mage. You may find it useful.

# You can get two tomes of Arcane Technique from Bodahn, and one from the Desire Demon in the Connor quest if you like.

# Regarding your 2nd Specialization, you may specialize as a Spirit Healer.

# I assume that you'll be focussed on damage dealing, so you'll probably bring along another mage for healing and other buffs.


Attributes at Level 25 (including fade bonuses, and tomes):

Strength: 15
Dexterity: 15
Willpower: 18
Magic: 93
Cunning: 16
Constitution: 20


Spells:

Blood Mage: Full Tree
Spirit Healer: only 'Group Heal'
Mage Tree: Full
Primal School: Only 'Winter's Grasp' (unless you want to use 'Storm of the Century'; personally i don't like using it)
Creation School: 'Heal', 'Glyph of Paralysis', 'Glyph of Warding', 'Glyph of Repulsion' and 'Spell Wisp'
Spirit School: 'Mana Alteration' full tree, 'Mind Blast' full tree
Entropy School: Full 2nd, 3rd and 4th tree


Equipment:

# Since the 'Improves Blood Magic' property doesn't stack, using more than one item that has this property is not useful unless the item has some other bonus that you are after.

# '+X% elemental damage' property is capped at 30 % for Origins (50% for Awakening), keep that in mind while choosing gear.

Staff: Staff of the Magister Lord
Backup Staff: Magister's Staff (for creature immune to cold damage)

Head: Cameo Cowl for the small health regen. You may use 'Helm of Honnleath' by temporarily increasing your Strength with gear if you don't mind exploiting the game. It's just a matter of perspective.
Hands: Black Hand Gauntlets
Chest: Vestments of the Seer
Legs: Magus's War Boots or Fade Striders

Belt: Sash of Forbidden Secrets
Amulet: Lifedrinker if you are Spellpower hungry, otherwise Spellward
Ring 1: Key to the City
Ring2: Lifegiver


# Take full advantage of Blood Magic's short cooldown: Start combat by casting off your mana, then turn on blood magic, if your health goes down alarmingly low, turn off bloog magic, drink a 'Lesser Health Poultice' and cast off from your mana while Blood Magic cools down in 10 seconds. Then turn on again.

# Healing: If you bring along another mage acting as a healer, then make sure you set her tactics so as not to use healing spells on your blood mage warden, as healing spells on a blood mage are highly ineffective when 'blood magic' is on. If you do need to heal, do it manually when 'blood magic' is off on your warden.

# Make sure to bring along a Tank, who is very effective at holding aggro, as you most probably know that enemies despise a nuker, especially a nuker who is using blood wound every 20 seconds.

# With 'Paralysis Explosion', 'Nightmare', 'Sleep', 'Waking Nightmare', 'Entropic Death', 'Advanced Drain', 'Blood Wound', you have more than enough croud control and nuking potential.

# 'Curse of Mortality' doesn't really prevent in-combat health regeneration, which can be fixed with the rules fixpack.

# 'Dark Sustenance' is useful in earlier levels when your constitution is considerably low, and you'd rather cast from mana. Later on, you won't really need it.

# Turn Spell Wisp on, then turn on Spell Might, turn off Spell Wisp
and then turn on Spell Wisp again, for a little more boost to
Spellpower.

[mousestalker]

One minor point, if you take blood mage/arcane warrior, any stat that says 'stamina' also supplies mana in the same amount. So any high stamina pool or high stamina regen armour will up your mana. Arcane warriors are absurdly overpowered to begin with. Paired with blood magic and you can solo a lot of the game with relative ease if that is your desire.

[keeneaow]

Another reason for arcane warrior even if you dont plan to use it,
is the last passive skill that boost mana regeneration,
and i guess the warden commander boots with a whopping 50 mana
also require AW skill to wear.
In addition to bodhan & desire in redcliffe,
wonders of theadas & merchant in mage tower also has arcane book for sale

Modifié par keeneaow, 16 octobre 2012 - 12:28 .

[TBastian]

The AW thing is overrated, any well-built mage is OP in origins. That any mage with the proper skillset and gear can reach defense values that can a rival dex rogue's, armor that rivals a tank's and the highest combination of dodge/spell resistance in the game should make that pointedly clear. There's also ridiculous poultice healing (lost on the BMs though). Arcane Warrior is just overkill, though the AW class abilities do complement the Blood Mage specialization extremely well. You can even skip the AW playstyle completely - you want be a "pure"caster, fine. Ignore Combat Magic and focus on Shimmering Shield.

A solid Blood Mage build is basically any tested AW/BM combination. There are already so many guides (some even stickied in these very forums) of these out there. There are a lot of other builds, like the BM/SH build mentioned, but you'll have to fine-tune these yourself especially if you don't like carrying around a tank.

Modifié par TBastian, 17 octobre 2012 - 05:33 .

[Emzamination]

Thank you Blazomancer for that beautiful build, I shall follow it on my next playthrough and report how it goes

Thank you mousestalker for the Tip on the Arcane-warrior specialization.I'll use it as a third specialization.

Thank you keeneaow for supplementing mousestalker's tip on Aw with valuable armor info.

mr. soapbox didn't deliver anything useful or not currently aforementioned, so no thanks to you, better luck next time.

[TBastian]

Big words from someone who uses "currently aforementioned".

Learn to read between the lines. The forums is ripe with (good) BM builds of all kinds. So sorry I couldn't be bothered to give you extra words of wisdom just so you don't have to get off your high chair for 5 extra seconds and use the search function.

Modifié par TBastian, 19 octobre 2012 - 11:32 .

[Emzamination]

TBastian wrote...

Big words from someone who uses "currently aforementioned".

Learn to read between the lines. The forums is ripe with (good) BM builds of all kinds. So sorry I couldn't be bothered to give you extra words of wisdom just so you don't have to get off your high chair for 5 extra seconds and use the search function.

Mhm, did you have some kind of point you were making there or do you just not know the definition of Aforementioned? If not, I'm sure google's search function could help you out, it's ripe with definitions of all kinds.

^ Oh look my answer happens to be only equally as useless as your own

Tell ya what -- Next time I ask for a good build, you can get off your soap box Elder fourmite, go searching the dusty bsn archives and copy & paste the cream of the crop in my request thread.You do that and maybe I'll give you a little pat on the head and possibly put in a good word for you with priestly and the EA answer HQ depending on how appetizing said information is. Sound good? <3

Modifié par Emzamination, 20 octobre 2012 - 03:16 .

[TBastian]

This... is just too painful to read. You even parroted my use of my use of the word "ripe".

You're trying really really hard, aren't you? Well then, you can rest all your gray and pink little muscles, perhaps someone else will actually come and decide to dig up the various "5 star" BM guide sfor you. Of course you could simply check the stickied topics, but that amount of exertion might prove devastating to your health...
Good luck to you heh.

Modifié par TBastian, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:46 .

[Emzamination]

Blazomancer your build worked like a charm, I'm a unstoppable goddess on nightmare THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

Modifié par Emzamination, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:18 .

[Blazomancer]

Glad to help.

[Vicar01]

If you don't like your current build, just get the respecialization potion from the raven and redesign your mage. you don't have to wait until next time. I always keep one in my inventory.

[JFRiley]

Sry to necro this, but i really liek the build listed above. However, doesn't he have too many spells allocated? I thought you only get like 24/25 points to spend.

[dainbramage]

3 at level 1
24 from levelling up
3 from story
up to 5 from tomes

=35

[JFRiley]

Is that including Awakenings?

[dainbramage]

JFRiley wrote...

Is that including Awakenings?

dainbramage wrote...

24 from levelling up

[JFRiley]

Thanks. I'm looking forward to trying this build, but what is doing the killing at the lower levels before you get Blood wound and Crushing Prison? I see a lot of CC, I'm just not trackign on the offensive spells. I know Drain Life, but that's not enough to get you through the first half of the game, is it?

I may try this one with a slight mod to adding a few more primal spells.

[Blazomancer]

You can get crushing prison at level 5 itself, or at level 4 if you have the grimoire of the frozen wastes. For me, spirit bolt, winter's grasp, crushing prison, improved drain, hexes seemed enough for the first half of the game. Later on blood wound, entropic death, nightmare, mana clash were coming handy.
If you are into primal, by all means, get them; the primal school has some great spells. As you might have noticed, the build was more of a debilitating build working in tandem with a team rather than going lone wolf. It makes use of spell combos, hexes, cc aoes and relies on winter's grasp, spirit bolt, crushing prison, hexes + staff for damage while the aoe's are in cooldown.

[Last Darkness]

Im always disappointed with the Arcane Warriors who put on all tanking gear and weapons.

I always like Blood Mage/Arcane Warrior whos still a caster. I also stop at 60 Magic, and focus more points into Con. Theres many ways to boost your spell power beyond this point and even mana pool.

Just remeber to cast your biggest spells using mana first then activate sustained spells and switch to blood magic to maximise efficiency.

Too many people make the mistake of trying to be in blood magic mode all the time.

[keeneaow]

Look no further than Blood gorged amulet
http://dragonage.wik...d-Gorged_Amulet
stats
+12 constitution
-3 strength
-3 willpower
With this, you can stretch magic a fair bit more, say 80.

Also use blood dragon armor, it will boost everything you need, notably health points

Modifié par keeneaow, 16 janvier 2013 - 12:36 .

[Last Darkness]

keeneaow wrote...

Look no further than Blood gorged amulet
http://dragonage.wik...d-Gorged_Amulet
stats
+12 constitution
-3 strength
-3 willpower
With this, you can stretch magic a fair bit more, say 80.

Also use blood dragon armor, it will boost everything you need, notably health points

If your a arcane warrior have a look at Blood Dragon Chest, Warden Commander Boots and executioners Helm is a mana/health boosting combo. You can even wear Provacateurs chest in this combo for more mana.