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[Scott Sion]

Maybe that's how Flemeth came to be. Maybe the dark ritual was preformed during a previous blight and she was the result of it.

I know that Morrigan tells you the story of how Flemeth gained her power, but at this point I think it's all BS. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm sort of tired right now so chances are I forgot to factor something in that could completely disprove this but if not I think it's an interesting theory.

[MillKill]

It's possible. It's also possible that Flemeth wants to pull her bodysnatching routine on the OGB, but isn't one herself. Or maybe she wants to use the OGB to take over/destroy the world. Or something else entirely.

We really can't do anything more than speculate at the moment. Personally, I think she's Fen'Haral, but that's pretty much a wild guess.

[Plaintiff]

We know for a fact that the original story of how Flemeth came to be is a lie. In Witch Hunt Morrigan flat-out tells you that Flemeth is not an abomination. THat she isn't even human and possibly never was.

But what Flemeth is has not yet been clarified.

[Vicious]

No. Flemeth needs to take over the bodies of powerful Mages to survive. That's pretty much the definition of an abomination. She could be some kind of primeval fade spirit but regardless is very bad news.

Any evidence of her being an OGB is sketchy at best, mostly because there is none. Just a ton of uncertainty.

It's also possible that Flemeth wants to pull her bodysnatching routine on the OGB, but isn't one herself.

I think that's what we can deduce from what Morrigan says, but then we go back to the problem of why specifically an OGB in the first place? We learn in Witch Hunt that OGB is a little human or part/elf/dwarf boy with the soul of an ancient dragon.

Nothing else is implied by this. He's not an ageless inhuman freak of nature that needs to eat bodies of powerful mages to survive. Morrigan in fact states he is an innocent child.

So basically, his dragon SOUL is what makes him different. So what good does his body do for Flemeth, exactly? Does one's soul determine how they appear in the fade? So when he sleeps he dreams he's a giant dragon roaring at stuff? Is that why she took him beyond the fade? Or not?

Modifié par Vicious, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:08 .

[inko1nsiderate]

The Witch Hunt certainly seems to make Flemeth's 'origin story' really questionable. I always wondered about Flemeth being a previous OGB, or even just an Old God before. Certainly I've seen speculation that she is the elven god of trickery (forget the name at the moment).

[inko1nsiderate]

Vicious wrote...
So basically, his dragon SOUL is what makes him different. So what good does his body do for Flemeth, exactly? Does one's soul determine how they appear in the fade? So when he sleeps he dreams he's a giant dragon roaring at stuff? Is that why she took him beyond the fade? Or not?

Well, first, we don't even entirely understand the fade or its real histroy.  And second, what exactly is beyond the fade?  Maybe the Old God soul has access to this 'beyond the fade' which yields ever more powerful magic, or even meta-magic?  No idea.  But this is the kind of mystery in the lore that gets me excited about Dragon Age.

[KiwiQuiche]

She's old enough the Dalish regonize her along side their 'Gods' so she's been around and obviously kick ass (Though her fight in DAO is lame, if you decided to kill that part of her) maybe since the time of the Dales.

When did the First Blight begin, anyone know?

[MillKill]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

She's old enough the Dalish regonize her along side their 'Gods' so she's been around and obviously kick ass (Though her fight in DAO is lame, if you decided to kill that part of her) maybe since the time of the Dales.

When did the First Blight begin, anyone know?

800 TE.

~1300 years before Origins

[TCBC_Freak]

Flemeth takes over her daughters, the OGB is a male, and the dark ritual may not have even worked how people think. So there is no guarantee that there even is a "Old God" Baby, it may just be a baby and the Old God soul may just hang on and leave the baby when he's born to find a darkspawn or Warden, the Old God soul may have died even and been over powered by the babies soul because he's the makers chosen vessel or something, or any number of things. Magic isn't an exact science.

Modifié par TCBC_Freak, 16 octobre 2012 - 09:02 .

[BouncyFrag]

It sounds plausible. However, if after waiting for all these years to find out about the OGB and it turns out to have been Flemeth all this time, I will need to enter an anger management group.

[DRobin13]

It's an interesting idea but I don't think she is an OGB. I do think that Flemeth has plans for the OGB which will relate to DA3. She wasn't suprised when Morrigan went beyond the Eluvian. Flemeth may be an old God that the Tevinters once worshiped. I think this because she was concerned about the blight and that she said that the blight is just as much a threat to her. The elves seem to have many legends of Flemeth which only proves she is older beyond we know

[whykikyouwhy]

 Maybe she's the mother of all dragons and Old God-dragonkind. Maybe every OGB is actually her progeny or descendant - six degrees of separation from Asha'bellanar.  

[Fallstar]

Flemeth is Razikale, whose spirit/soul/whatever you want to call it somehow escaped his prison. No factual basis for this, just a hunch.

Kind of like Ishamael from WoT.

That's the best I can come up with. Also, my signature.

Modifié par DuskWarden, 16 octobre 2012 - 10:22 .

[mousestalker]

So Flemith is really Kyra Sedgwick?

[scootermcgaffin]

I want there to be a long, involved, entire game spanning subquest to find out who Flemeth is.

And then it's revealed she's just an old, powerful, slightly crazy apostate who really just wants to be left alone.

[brushyourteeth]

Flemeth might be an Old God, but she is definitely no Baby....

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Flemeth might be an Old God, but she is definitely no Baby....

Unless she's Benjamin Button... She certainly looks younger in DA2! 

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Flemeth might be an Old God, but she is definitely no Baby....

Unless she's Benjamin Button... She certainly looks younger in DA2! 

Good point, though that could be the power of Kirkwall! Cullen got a facelift too:

http://t1.gstatic.co...4V-vPkP6bSANXpA

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Flemeth might be an Old God, but she is definitely no Baby....

Unless she's Benjamin Button... She certainly looks younger in DA2! 

Good point, though that could be the power of Kirkwall! Cullen got a facelift too:

http://t1.gstatic.co...4V-vPkP6bSANXpA

Health care must be top notch in Kirkwall! 

[chuckwells62]

Cullen had previously been under severe strain given his experience in DA:O, so no "face lift" effect occurred due to Kirkwall's malign influence. He had just put past events behind him. Flemeth received an improved "look" thanks to the Devs realizing that they could do better, so again, Kirkwall not to blame!

[ShimmeringDjinn]

TCBC_Freak wrote...

Flemeth takes over her daughters, the OGB is a male, and the dark ritual may not have even worked how people think. So there is no guarantee that there even is a "Old God" Baby, it may just be a baby and the Old God soul may just hang on and leave the baby when he's born to find a darkspawn or Warden, the Old God soul may have died even and been over powered by the babies soul because he's the makers chosen vessel or something, or any number of things. Magic isn't an exact science.

Bolded. That is only acording to Morrigan.
If she really does do this, why hasn't she taken over her other daughter?

[Alessa]

I rather think Flemeth is an Old God herself and not the OGB.

Modifié par Alessa-00, 16 octobre 2012 - 02:33 .

[LolaLei]

chuckwells62 wrote...

Cullen had previously been under severe strain given his experience in DA:O, so no "face lift" effect occurred due to Kirkwall's malign influence. He had just put past events behind him. Flemeth received an improved "look" thanks to the Devs realizing that they could do better, so again, Kirkwall not to blame!

Shhh, let me believe in Kirkwalls fountain of youth! 

[Aldora92]

My theory?

Flemeth does not inhabit the bodies of anybody, but she has many daughters so that Dark Rituals can be performed, with he and her daughters having control of the pregnancy as the female, rather then her having sons and risking others getting pregnant.

Andrast is rumoured to have been a really powerfull with, and also reborn as a dragon... it is my guess that Flemeth IS Andraste... Conobar and Maferaths stories with their wives are very similar...

I think Flemeth really was Andraste, and wife of the Maker, her quest is to live untill all of the spirits of the old gods are either destroyed, or reborn as innocent children, this would bring the world to a balance, as the fade would not be inhabited by their spirits, and no more blood mages would be made, it is my guess that all demons in theh fade were corrupted by the old gods and are on a quest to gain controll of mages so that they can find ways to release the old gods.

[septembervirgin]

I think Flemeth is just a symptom of a larger situation. I mean, if lyrium is also a symptom.